Staintune Exhaust System

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Quirky, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. DerBrizon Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    2005 Suzuki SV650S
    Awesome! Thanks for the response. I was thinking of Coring one can, and sticking with it without the baffle and then keep the other side as a toolbox in disguise. It looks like it'll be pretty easy to cut the end cap of at it's weld, clean it up and build a hinge and latch for it while plugging that portion of the exhaust. I'm unsure of which side makes more sense to keep functional, though. I see some people have removed the right side exhaust can, but I can't understand why they choose that one - it doesn't look like it would matter much.

    whatever I do, it's gon' have some pretty TIG welds on it. :D
  2. DerBrizon Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    2005 Suzuki SV650S
    It definitely helps. thanks!

    Depending on how much weight it saves, I'll turn one into a toolbox or remove it, coring the other.
  3. tweber Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Annual Tour de Go West
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Zippo
    DerBrizon, if you do core it. Can you take pics of the process? thanks
  4. run-it Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 Guzzi V11
    I was think'in I'd remove the left side b/c that's the more abrupt turn in the tee-wye section of pipe.
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  5. DerBrizon Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    2005 Suzuki SV650S
    I'll do that. I have no idea how long it will be. Probably months. There is one guy who did it already, but I can't recall the website. He visits this forum and might tune in.
  6. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
  7. tweber Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Annual Tour de Go West
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Zippo
  8. run-it Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 Guzzi V11
  9. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Hole saw and two 18" bit extensions outta do it!
  10. run-it Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 Guzzi V11
    It looks like a STAINLESS steel baffle plate - I hate drilling through stainless! I was hoping someone would tell me it popped right out with a hammer & 3/4 inch punch or something! ;)
  11. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)

    Yeah I saw that when I cored my cat. Still I think if you bought a 1/2" carborundum hole saw I think it would make fairly quick work of it.
  12. run-it Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 Guzzi V11
    I'll probably wait to see what Staintune comes up with, but unlike many I LIKE my bike sorta quiet. Too loud can become annoying over time + I like to keep under the radar with the fuzz.:busted:
  13. tweber Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Annual Tour de Go West
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Zippo
    Me also... I like to ride on rear wheel a few times every time out.
    If staintune is not happening....than cut and core will work for me also.
  14. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    Got my Terra back from the suspension shop yesterday. What a difference, love it! :D
    I will talk with Staintune ASAP and get the bike to them at the first chance I get. I am also hopeful of keeping this Staintune pipe thing fairly quite we have a particular Hwy Patrol Officer nearby that will always pull up a bike for making just a little noise. We'll all find out soon enough.
  15. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS

    I don't need the fuel range with Safari tanks onboard but this is really a top idea. I can't imagine Staintune developing this or havn't heard of them even developing actual storage cans, just dummy cans. I can only ask. It might be too big of a PITA for them.
  16. Slowflyer Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW R1150R Rockster
    Quirky, I am not expecting Staintune to make the tank. I will have that fabricated separately. I just need the space and that space is perfect for about 3 - 4 litres which for me is just what I require.
    Regards,
    M
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  17. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    Hi Slowflyer, sounds great. I think that a 3-4 litre tank would be a perfect and very popular option.

    Cheers,

    Q
  18. glitch_oz Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada

    OK...same here.
    There's nothing special at all to the Staintunes apart from their superb finish...technically, they're a dime-a-dozen.
    (I've cut open a few of them and was agast at what's in them...or rather, the lack of it).
    THere's nothing more than an outer tube, 2 end-caps, a couple of hanger brackets, a perforated centre-pipe wrapped into S/S fine-mesh wool (like your 000-sized fine steelwool from the hardware/ household shop) wrapped in turn in S/S "pot-scrubbers" (coarse, doughnut-shaped S/S wool pads)
    All that shoved into the outer tubing, weld up the caps, weld in the rear spout and that's it. All components are pre-fabbed and available from exhaust-component suppliers. Outer tubing comes in 20ft length, endcaps, spouts, "stuffing/ wadding" (either fibreglass or S/S wool), perforated pipe and the usual 40/45/50 S/S tubing come in stock length and/ or pre-fabbed.

    The "secret" and "mystique" are purely in the mix+match of diameter and lengths of tubing used for inlet/ outlet and the type of perforation of the inner-tube, possible "obstructions" like wedged "nicks" intruding into the gas-flow and the mix and amount of "wadding" used as well as its positioning.
    There are some basic physical principles behind gas-flow, speeding up or slowing down flow, creating backpressure or "letting it go".
    No rocket-science here...just fairly simple logic.

    I used a Staintune 100mm round "made for" an early '80s Yamaha TT600 single.... re-arranged brackets, shortened the standard length of 480mm to a 370mm "stubby" and re-packed the wadding with a little more coarse S/S wool (the pot-scrubbers), increased the inlet from 45 to 50mm and build a fairly sharply curved 18" long mid-pipe from 50mm S/S (the sharp bends created more back-pressure, the bigger pipe created a slower flow) as an under-seat exhaust for a highly-modified V-Strom 650 twin...

    The work was done in the home-garage with very basic tools, the welding + polishing done by some pro's in the neighbourhood, materials bought from a custom-exhaust shop close-by.
    For a bunch of guesswork and a first try, going by logic and gut-feel only, it turned out an absolute cracker!!
    Not loud, preserved the engine braking, sweet pickup, no holes or stutters right through the rev-range, no popping, no farting, punchy down low (straight pull from 2000rpm to 10.500rpm redline in any gear). No Power-Commander, no tweaking electronics, mapping....just bog-stock stuff.
    And nothing's changed in 4 years of riding it.

    Bought a set of Staintune Ovals for a late Trumpy Sprint ST, cheap, because one had a dent.
    Used the good one as was! but increased the inlet from 45 to 50mm again, build a 50mm mid-pipe and hooked it onto the stock 45mm system of another 650 V-strom....another sweet combo doing all the right things without a penny spent on all the bullshyte.

    The 2., dented can was again unchanged but opened to a 50mm inlet with a 50mm midpipe for a 650 KLR single.
    While cosmetically a bit questionable (as it's now on the wrong side, showing a little of the welding seam underneath the tail plastics), it took 20 mins to cut and re-position the hanger bracket, make up a new rear bracket to suit the bike's existing mounting points, this one shows that for a big Thumpa there's a touch to little "wadding" in the can itself. A little loss of engine-braking (back-pressure), but one hell of a pick-up down low.
    Just by feel, the KLR has gained a HP or two, opened up the bottom and mid-range, but at the cost of engine-braking and a little too much noise for my taste (no problem, really...but I like my bikes fairly quiet nowadays...close to stock). Again, didn't change fueling at all, not fiddling with carbs and needles or whatever.

    Buy a 2. hand Staintune off any other single or twin (SV650 or so), carefully grind away the weld on the inlet side (so you can re-use the cap), get some more S/S wadding coarse and fine, re-jig the hangers and refab a new 50mm mid-pipe from behind the left frame-strut to the left-hand side rear....or even the right, to keep more bends/ back-pressure in the system. Or keep that as an option, if the left side version finishes up popping and farting/ leaning out etc.

    The mid-pipe will be the crux, it's bloody tight in there and increasing the pipe-diameter won't help things.
    Use the good one as a sample...I'm in for the 2 one :-))

    As for the $$...A$130 for the 2 Trumpy cans with a small box of 45mm Y-pieces and other junk,
    A$20 postage, A$20 for 2 new 50mm SS exhaust clamps, A$40 for some bits and pre-fabbed elbows of 50mm pipe, $20 polishing, A$70 for welding and flaring/ notching pipe (all of it in beer)....and lots and LOTS of time and fiddling.

    2 exhausts (one V-Strom/ one KLR) A$300, both Staintunes.
    THe V-Strom has clocked 20.000km+ without a single hiccup, the same goes for the just recently finished KLR (4000km thus far).
  19. glitch_oz Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    AUS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada
    That'd be awesome!!
    I doubt they'll come to the party though. That's a whole different ballgame with fuel-lines, pumps, the associated legal responsibilities etc....
    Can of worms...
  20. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    Plan is that Staintune will get my bike for around 10days and it will be delivered to them Friday the 14th February.

    See what happens.:cool:
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