Staintune Exhaust System

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Quirky, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    Now for the AF-Xied. Again all runs are with the wukaking -10*C temp offset.
    I don't have all the answers for this and doesn't really prove a damn thing. Remember Dyno runs only and no AFR tracking. (would be nice tho)
    This only proves that there is little or no hp gain on my bike between the 2 settings. Setting 6 should only trying to add around 2% more fuel.
    Yes it would be interesting trying a more generous setting of 8 or then trying the power controller in the -20*C offset, blah! blah! but it wasn't. Sandy @ staintune put allot of his own time into getting this much data together. Every time you change a setting or part it can take 15 minutes for the computer to adapt the bulk of it's fueling changes. There must have been 30 odd dyno files for Terra as it was.


    Graph below, HP only. Bit later will see if Torque files exist also.
    Green (file 014) FC setting 6 (fuel controller= AF-Xied)
    then changed AF-Xied to setting 1
    Blue (file 015) FC setting 1 (this should be operating as per oem)
    notice the file numbers, this is important there were 4 runs that basically show that the computer was re-adapting and gradually improving until this, the 4th run, there was stuff all to compare (.5hp)
    Red (file 019) FC1

    Attached Files:

  2. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    OK try this video out. Slapped together Standard first, then the Staintune with Big Bore restricter, lastly in noisy staintune mode with out the restricter fitted.
    I don't think this video captures the bass of it all that well. Without the restricter it is really loud and this video doesn't really highlight how much more loud.


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czff-_dmxpc
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  3. nwrider1 Husqvarna
    AA Class

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    SW Washington
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    Thanks Quirky You've gone way beyond the extra mile (or KM) on this project --- now StainTune needs to let us know when we can place our orders!
  4. nwrider1 Husqvarna
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    SW Washington
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    Ok, here's the official word from Staintune:

    Hi John,

    Thanks for the e-mail,

    TR650 is set to go into stock in may, sorry for the delay
    Staintune factory closes for Easter break from 16th to the 28th of April.

    Kind regards
    Adam
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  5. megatiker75 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Italia (Liguria)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZX6R 2001

    These bench tests I've never understood. This is the graph of when I did make the GPR. possible that there is so much difference between torque and power than those published above?รน

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  6. nwrider1 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SW Washington
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    none
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    Quirky,

    When you get a chance, how about a ride report/evaluation of your new Staintune?

    TIA,

    John
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  7. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    Sorry guys, been flat out like a lizard drinking.
    I love the note that comes out of this thing now.
    My comparison of before and after will be all fecked up due to me not having the bike for over a month. It ain't no r1200.
    It's definately torquier and spins the revs up quicker. It may just be a liitle loud for some of you but it is only under acceleration or heavy load it barks a little, otherwise cruises along without drawing attention or being annoying.
    Pull the restricter out and all sorts of hell will break loose. It will annoy your neighbors, neighborhood and people riding with you. It is nothing but evil, and will definitely get the attention of Mr Plod. I love it like this, but reserved only for trips a bit more isolated.

    Got onto the airbox pod mod nearly straight away and this definately made a significant impovement in performance and believe the bike is running smoother because of it. All good except for the engine oil smell from the bleeding crankcase breather.

    Gotta run!! more later

    Cheers,
    Q
  8. nwrider1 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SW Washington
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    Thanks for the update, Quirky.

    Now we just have to wait patiently for Staintune to get back to work.

    John
  9. AUS_TR650 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2008 KLX250S
    Hey John, are you buying directly from Staintune or from a dealer as their website specifies this? Any indication of pricing? Thanks

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  10. nwrider1 Husqvarna
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    SW Washington
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    AUS_TR650,

    I thought I'd contact the factory first. There are many dealers listed in Portland, OR and SW Washington. However, none of them stock Staintune. They'd have to order them just like me.
  11. Engenia Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Canberra, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Benelli Tornado Novocentro Tre
    The pump could tee directly into the injector feed pipe. Then just switch between pumps. The pressure relief valve in the main tank will maintain the correct pressure.
    The advantage of this is that it is just a little bit easier to reach the feed pipe than the main tank neck.
    You would need to be mindful to drain enough from the main tank before switching to the auxiliary tank, as the relief valve will empty into the main tank.
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  12. AUS_TR650 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2008 KLX250S
    Not sure whether this would be effective. Some electric fuel pumps are not positive displacement therefore the aux pump may not build up enough pressure for optimum fuel injection. It would be taking the easy path, draining back through the main pump into the tank.
    Maybe draw a schematic showing plumbing with an operating procedure.
  13. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    My thinking is if you remove the vent from the top of the fill pipe. Route the line to the bottom of the auxiliary tank and install a vent on the top of the auxiliary tank. This will cause a suction as fuel is used in the main tank thus filling the main tank from the auxiliary tank. The auxiliary tank becomes the vent tank.
  14. Engenia Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Canberra, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Benelli Tornado Novocentro Tre
    Good idea.
    Worth a try before adding a pump.
    It remains to be seen if the main fuel cap seals well enough for this to work though.
    The TR's pump must be positive displacement. If it weren't the delivery hose wouldn't remain under pressure with the bike switched off.
    The pump I was thinking of for the Aux Tank is a standard Bosch 38 mm used everywhere, even my Tornado uses it. Cheap as chips as well being positive displacement. (Actually I'm not so sure about that. It has a valve on the downstream side, which it wouldn't need if it were positive displacement)
  15. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    STAINTUNE TR650

    You can deal with Staintune directly or one of their dealers if you wish to do so, no problem!

    Adam at Staintune is working through 400 odd emails which has stacked up a little over the easter break.

    New website for Staintune is being developed and not far away.

    Please realise that they are a small company in high demand and have a broad range of pipes to manufacture.
    Please be patient.

    They're planning a small production run for next week.

    I am still all smiles that this exhaust system is on my bike. IMO and be warned it will be a little too loud for some of you. It can and does cruise along without drawing attention, but hill climbs, your favorite twisty road and medium to hard acceleration does make it bark a little. My collie kelpie x loves this bikes sound.
  16. nwrider1 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SW Washington
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    none
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    Too many to list
    Does Kelpie bark when the Staintune barks?
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  17. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    Nah! Maybe more of an excited yelp and the anticipation squeal if the ignition gets turned on. Come on, come on start it will you, please please start it. Then it does start just turns into a celebration of running flat out lapping the house yard flat out.

    We have a good understanding that barking is reserved especially for strangers sneaking into yard and also cats. Neither two I have time for so all is good!
  18. nwrider1 Husqvarna
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    SW Washington
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  19. Quirky Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hunter Valley, Oz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R1200GS
    According to my finely tuned calibrated ass dyno, the pod mod makes significant improvements to smoothness and performance.
    I recently removed my wukaking power controller from the TR and I'm not missing it one bit!
    Tried backing the AF-XIED settings down from #6 to #3 and the bike was surging and not as smooth or rideable. So at the moment I will say the AF-XIED is a keeper. Setting #8 felt good but seemed to rob some mojo at higher rpm's.
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  20. nwrider1 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    SW Washington
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    Does the AF-XIED have a single adjustment? And, does it then add fuel throughout the rpm range based upon the setting?