Stalling

Discussion in 'TR650' started by v12gte, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. v12gte Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Northern California
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Husqvarna Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, MV Agusta
    This keeps happening, and i have seen others report this. My Terra keeps dying. It is most prevalent when the bike is cold. It dies when i pull the clutch in and the revs come down right before an upshift. I have caught it a few times by blipping the throttle. A fuel injected brand new bike should not do this. A dealer is far away, and i am not confident that they have enough info to solve this.
    Has anyone stumbled upon a fix for the stalling? Coming off high revs to idle, and it dies. It almost bucked me off today, since no lights come on when the engine dies, and i kept shifting...nasty lockup resulted.

    Can i do something to the mixture, change to a different plug, or....?
  2. BILLF CH Sponsor

    Location:
    BMP Husqvarna, Salem, OR USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    92WXC350 /Lamson CR250/701 Vitpilen/
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph900 Scrambler 1200 HD Nightst
    We are working on a Trs650 right now with the exact symptoms;hooked it up to THEMOSS. tool and reset alloys baseline values. It helped a lot but still a. slight stumble just off idle will be doing more tomorrow keep posted.
  3. BILLF CH Sponsor

    Location:
    BMP Husqvarna, Salem, OR USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    92WXC350 /Lamson CR250/701 Vitpilen/
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph900 Scrambler 1200 HD Nightst
    Also there is no adjustments all done With MOSS computer.
  4. v12gte Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Northern California
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Husqvarna Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, MV Agusta
    Much obliged. Hope the reset helps with mine. I am in the sf bay area.
  5. mario33 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Warsaw, Poland
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra'13 - Lady in Red 2
    Other Motorcycles:
    none
  6. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    I have the same problem; bad when cold, still there when hot. I never know when the bike will cough, spit, and die just after taking off from an intersection and I worry about getting rear ended. As long as you keep the revs 3K or so when taking off it's OK, but it shouldn't be happening. I'm guessing it's a lean condition, but hope the dealers or Husky can get the right mapping for us soon.
  7. krussell Strada Adventurer

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada (for sale)
    Other Motorcycles:
    K1600 / Super Tenere
    I too worry a great deal about getting rear ended. It's really disappointing that they would release a bike like this. As a motorcycle safety instructor I'd be terrified to see a new rider on one of these bikes.

    I really encourage everyone who is seeing the issue to not just let it slide. Make sure your dealer knows your bike isn't running right and that you want it fixed. I also strongly recommend buyers to ride the bike first, and don't accept the 'it's just new, it will get better.' Mine still has the issue with 1350 miles on it.
  8. BILLF CH Sponsor

    Location:
    BMP Husqvarna, Salem, OR USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    92WXC350 /Lamson CR250/701 Vitpilen/
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph900 Scrambler 1200 HD Nightst
    Its not all of them,our demo and the the other 5 we sold run excellent <I admit we should run these bikes at least 10 miles or more with warm ing them up and ride normal just to let the tuning settle in after that release them onto the floor for sale and that way we can catch this before released from now on.Our demo did this slightly until a couple hundred miles,and has just a very slight stutter off idle now and then,welcome to meeting EPA , big singles seem to show this lean surge worse than others,its like every other brand most end up with JD tuners or boosterplugs etc to overcome the woes of meeting emission standards,once again great bike everyone will get it figured out asap.
  9. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    My TR650 I got from Bills runs real good. Slight stumble just off idle but is rare and not an issue for me. Wish it was not there but has not been a problem.

    Tunken sent me this, wonder if that would fix the problem.

    http://www.boosterplug.com/shop/bmw-single-cylinder-20c1.html

    Not wild over how it works (fools the ECU into thinking it is running cooler and adds gas)
  10. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    The booster plug folks are currently working on a unit for the Terra. I will probably try one once available.
  11. Ogre_fl Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cook Bayou, FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger 1050
    You have yours back from the dealer?
    If so, are you saying it still has stalling issues?
    What if anything did they do?
  12. krussell Strada Adventurer

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada (for sale)
    Other Motorcycles:
    K1600 / Super Tenere
    Not yet. Mine is the bike BILLF is talking about above, sounds like there may be some progress, they've finally got it hooked up to the computer etc.
  13. blaine.hale Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Terra TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    1973 BMW r75, 1974 BMW R90, Bultaco
    I seem to be suffering the same or similar symptoms. I just got my bike 3 days ago and I'm already had a couple engine cut offs. They've always been when I'm at a dead stop and starting to roll on the throttle to take off. If doesn't seem to do it above 3k rpm. I've caught it a couple of times with quick reflexes on the clutch pull in and throttle blip (this is what vintage bikes and carbs taught me heh.)
    I haven't ridden it long enough to observe pattern but when it occurred today, it was after the bike was off for 4 or so hours...basically a cold engine. The temperature outside is/was 68-70 degrees (atlanta).
  14. mario33 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Warsaw, Poland
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra'13 - Lady in Red 2
    Other Motorcycles:
    none
    I think its the issue Husqvarna has to address sooner than later as further sales seriously depend on ot IMHO... I'm considering purchase but I will not buy it until the problem is solved somehow. That might mean changing EFI system into BMW own one I'm afraid as it looks like Marelli does not seem to 'talk to' Rotax very well...
  15. Ogre_fl Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cook Bayou, FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger 1050
    Dont think BMW does a lot better with this.
    My X-Challange had many of the same stalling problems and BMW was never able to fixed it.

    There has been stalling (and starting) problems on just about every version of these rotax motors.
    I was actulay hoping it would have been better with the Husky EFI, or at least tuneable to fix.
  16. gunnr Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE610, TERRA
    I was in on Saturday and took your demo for a short ride. The bike was cold when I took off and had a very noticeable stutter. It was less after it warmed up. I am impressed with the bike and hope this issue can be resolved. Curious as to why some have it and others don't. I'm wondering also if the Booster plug could fix it, and how much would it effect mileage?
  17. BILLF CH Sponsor

    Location:
    BMP Husqvarna, Salem, OR USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    92WXC350 /Lamson CR250/701 Vitpilen/
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph900 Scrambler 1200 HD Nightst
    i
    I noticed on our demo that when it sits around and just gets ridden for short duration at first ,its alot more noticeable.When ridden for a half hour or so it seems to just about completely go away.Alot of info is being fed into the ecu and takes awhile to settle in.
    We have already been in contact with booster plugs and on the list for them to try asap.They will most likely fix the glitch in most of them,its just part of having a big single with 10 extra hp meeting epa.My demo runs so well when warmed up good I have already committed to keeping it for myself,the booster plug should just make it a bit nicer.There are too many great reports on these bikes to not buy one as supply is going to be good for a very short while.Meanwhile we can keep plugging away trying to perfect it with the tools and tech help available .Everyone road our bike at China Hat loved it!!!
  18. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    Hope there is a fix with the booster plug. I rode 30 miles to a friends house, pulled up on his sidewalk which was uphill just slightly, and when I decided to move a few feet forward, Pop, Die. Very frustrating. Trying to pick your way slowly thru some terrain going uphill would be a real problem. If you are all set to drive over something tricky and the engine dies at the wrong time, you are going down!
  19. AvidR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Johnson City, TN USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    WeeStrom, C50,
    Adding my $.02...My bike has stumbled a couple of times at low rpms. It's not predictable, and the precipitating conditions have varied. I considered it a minor annoyance, until it happened as I turned off a side street onto a main traffic artery. Fortunately, no traffic was coming right at that moment, but if it had been a case of me trying to squeeze into a short break, it could have been ugly. I admit, I'm just a tiny bit spooked. Otherwise, I love the bike.
  20. kyle01 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Chicago il
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Beta 430, Honda CR 144, XS650
    Mine does It too... I stalled 3 times on a short ride. It's driving me insane- it's making me wish I could throw the FI in the trash and put a flat slide Mikuni on it...