Stupid questions or not..?? Husky 650 Intermittent Stopping

Discussion in 'TR650' started by kiwiape, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    I called them this morning and talked with Sandro, really nice folks there.

    We talked at length, and there is a slim, very slim chance it could happen. All the cogs in the universe would have to line up.

    First and main hurdle is production numbers of the TR650. My understanding is minimum production run of bike they would like to see is 40,000 units. On a good day, there may be 5,000 Terra/Strada. I have had no luck getting numbers from Husky/BMW/KTM.

    The 40,000 might be overlooked if another bike with high production numbers came across their bench, that used the same technology, and small tweaking was all that was needed to make the Terra work. That is not likely, as computers get more and more complex, and the Terra numbers will never grow.

    If somebody can find out what other bikes use this particular ecu, we might find better numbers for RD of the tools to tune them.
  2. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Since 30. April I got the latest factory update on my Terra.

    Can`t say much until yet, but the bike feels a bit smoother now.

    Unfortunately the idle speed is a little unstable now.

    Everything else is ok, power as before and no disadvantages except idle speed.
  3. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Hi Norland. Do you mean 30 April 2014?? Is there a new updated map...?, if so do you know what version?
    ....this could be what we have all been waiting for .....:banana:
  4. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Yes... 30. April 2014

    The dealer told me it´s the newest update from march 2014. I don´t know what version, sorry.
  5. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    It´s an update of the control unit and the dashboard.

    After the update the dashbord no more shows "map 2" (as it is buildt for the Nuda).

    I think that´s the easiest way to check if you allready have the actual update on your bike.
  6. Jon Knutson Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Mildenhall, United Kingdom
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra ABS
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 KTM 450 SX-F (Street Legal)

    I haven't had any updates since I bought my bike in July 2013, my display doesn't display "Map 2" but my idle also isn't very stead and I have had a couple stalls at low speed usually right when I start off before the bike warms up fully. The longer I let it idle the smoother it gets and it is less likely to stall.
  7. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Maybe it´s allready an updated dashboard? The early ones (my Terra is from the beginning 2013) showed "Map 2" in the dashboard (as it was originaly created for the Nuda) and i know of other ones that had the same issue.

    After this update the bike runs much more smooth, no stalling at all :thumbsup:
  8. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    I have just installed the PCV w/autotune, all I can say is wow! I can start cold and drive of with no hesitation. Much improved throttle response, no 3000 rpm dead spot. The bike now seems to be a wheelie monster. Best mod done to date for me.
  9. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Before I install the PCV with auto tune should I get the latest Moss flash or just install with the old factory tune?
  10. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    I have never hooked up to Moss. My bike shows a build date of 7/13, I know this is not possible being they shut factory down in 2/13. I was told that they do not get a ser# until they get destination country, therefore they odd build date.

    I guess my bike was more sick than I thought. I just got use to letting it warm up to full temp and give lots of throttle on takeoff. I had a few times were it would stall at stop lights and it did not like 2nd gear starts.

    I have noticed that it seems to shift much smoother as well. Very happy and when I learn more about the program I think I will be even more pleased with it.
  11. Jon Knutson Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Mildenhall, United Kingdom
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra ABS
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 KTM 450 SX-F (Street Legal)
    I'm pretty sure the PCV completely bypasses the stock system, shouldn't be any need to update.
  12. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750

    Something does not sound right here...?? Mine has II on the dash and has done since end of last year...its been on the MOSS tool three times now. I will find out about this update......I feel the dealer is feeding you a bit of a BS about it being the latest, it probably is (for you) but its near a year old.
  13. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Throttle response with mine is fine no dead spots at all. Wheelie monster??, is that roll on in 1st,2nd or do you have clutch it and pull it?
  14. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Thanks. That's 95.00 that goes in the kitty for the PCV.
  15. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    March 2014 is a year old??? :confused:

    What year do we have downunder? :eek:

    I think it´s newer than "end of last year" :D
  16. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750

    Norland, I understand there has only ever been one MAP for our bikes from day one until now.

    My dealer has a MOSS tool and has invited me to come and have a play with it with my bike hooked up to it. The actual machine/software is difficult to use and that is being polite!!. If I find anything I will post it.
  17. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Cool. Thanks Kiwiape.
  18. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Here in Germany an updated MAP is available since march 2014.
  19. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750

    When you turn your key on does your dash show "MAP II" on it or is there something else?
  20. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Before this update the dashboard showed "MAP II".

    After the update the dash no more showed "MAP II". This display is completely gone.

    So as i told, it´s an update of the control unit and also of the dashboard.