Tire testing with Tubliss

wow. I know in the last decade jaguars have been photographed in New Mexico, but I did not know they were seen in Arizona, too. Cool. But don't let the bunny-huggers find out.

We have mountain lions here (NorCal/Mt Shasta) but they're reasonably rare (well, when I worked 5 years in the woods in the '70s: NONE. Now, I see one every other year or so); and I definitely don't like 'em, mainly because they don't seemed to be spooked or concerned about a dirt bike. But I'd be down-right nervous with a jaguar hanging around- they seem tougher and heavier built than leopards even.

...back to the tubliss testing thread...

THERE IS A PIX OF A BLACK PANTHER TAKEN WITH A GAME CAMERA ON MY FB PAGE ABOUT 60 OR SO MILES FROM ME MORE BIG CAT AND BEAR SIGHTING POPPIN UP ALL THE TIME AROUND HEAR

Why you yelling?

BKUZ ITS EZR 2 C

BT (this WAS shovelhead85, but my account "froze" up a couple of months ago. Trenchcoat85 now)

sheesh- I didn't know that jags had been spotted in southern NM & AZ for decades... I thought they'd been around only since about '99.

Does the BP hassle you at all when you're near the border? [also: i'm assuming you ride with a sidearm; and if I rode down in that area I'd carry one of those folding .223 carbines too, I think]

I remember reading about Glenn way back when. IIRC, when he showed the pic to the US FWS guys they put some kinda injunction on him preventing him from protecting his livestock from lions; to ensure the jaguar wasn't molested. typical.

weirdly, if I see any mountain lions around here, they're kinda colored gray; in your photo (and everybody else's) they're more of a yellow/tawny shade.

I checked out the terrain around Chiricahau Mountains on google earth- insanely rough; steep too. Can you ride the Sky Island Traverse trail thingy or is it verboten like our Pacific Crest Trail? Also is that trail up to the old lookout south of Paradise rideable? that looks interesting (edit: now I see it's part of the SKIT). No wonder those Apaches are tough- it's a rough area.

Was it 10 days...after 2 I had given up, figured my Husky was too Orange

The almost impossible to mount and even harder to wear out Sedona was the $50 CycleGear IT887. NOT the knobs at all angles model that Jeff Slavens likes so much.

The 520 is staying at 6psi, it's solid, way better than the 887 it replaced. I'm setting faster times on our training loops. So far, crossing my fingers, it has been a perfect gentleman, inspires confidence.

That 120 does look big tho....

Well, finally got some seat time on the 300. It's really wet here, I rode in a drizzle yesterday.
The Shinko 520 120/100-18 is wearing very well, it works well enough everywhere to leave it on. I'm at 6psi now and no wallowing, it's excellent everywhere but greasy, flat turns. It also spins up in the wet more than I would like, especially when the 300 comes on the pipe. When it does break loose it's predictable and controllable, so no big issue except a little loss of forward drive.
Overall, an exceptable compromise because it handles the rocks and fire roads so well.

There was quite a bit of noise about lack of moderators, but it seems better now. So you've got an FE350? 120 should be just right.
I was wondering about that 887. I've tried a couple bow tie type tread patterns and didn't like them. Good drive and braking, but sketchy in turns. I've got an ST880 I'm saving for going down to SC where it's warmer and sandier. It's on the list of great tires with Tubliss too.

What is an "en" pattern?

I bought a dunlop dt739 (i believe number is right) and loved its traction and toughness but they dont make it anymore. I have a AT81, great tire but doesnt last long on rock sections. Just bought a perelli mt16 but havent installed it yet. All tubliss with 7-8psi. I find real low pressure with tubliss to be without value, but i only race harescramble.

Btw more soapy water the better when installing tibliss. I use 9 raps elec tape on rim and developed a technique for extracting excess water if its sloshing around next day after its sealed. Let me know if you need help.

Yes i want to know your magic technique and the reason to inflate high pressure side BEFORE you inflate the tyre.
My thinking is bead the tyre then inflate high pressure bladder to seal bead..... Am i backwards?

Second thoughts don't answer the last question.

I worded wrongly. Its not magic. After sealed, if there is excess water to the point of major sloshing you can extract it by deflating both sides, breaking tire bead slightly 3pm to 9pm and wedge small 1/4 inch drive sockets (4-6 of them) and turn wheel over with opening facing floor, hold tire on knees and shake up and down severl times then tip down and let drain some, keep repeating and it will continue dripping, shaking, resting/dripping till dry. Remove sockets, inflate. Done.

Installation and inflating steps should be followed by manufacturer exactly

Sockets should be deepwell might i add

That's Maxxis EN, we were talking about the front tire pattern.

I agree, don't see a big diff between 6-8 psi with the Shinko 520 yet.

I know what it says to do but if you think about it inflating the hd tube first will push the bead put of the well and onto the rim, now it may not seal well as a dry bit of tyre could snag and cause issues..
Buut if you inflate tyre to seat bead then let air out to inflate tubliss bladder then it will be unifotm all the way round and give an air tight seal everytime.
Im gunna email them asking.
Ohh sockets you sly ninja.

Before installing I read so many different suggestions for Tubliss, I just ended up doing it like the cool chick on youtube with about 1 liter of soapy water. No prob's, tire seats and seals fine.

I will be following their instructions, as for water in the tyre can you use a small tube through the rimlock to syphon the water out?
I will be trying it all soon enough.

Had a flat yesterday at the front while using the tubeliss. Upon inspection I think it was either a thorn or a nail as the hole in the tyre was rather small.
Good ting is the tubeliss holds the tyre on the rim and was able to ride it out and about 15km on the road too at 80km/h. No problem
A bit wobbly in the turns on the road.
All good as I didn't fancy changing a tube in 35 C heat.
When I got home I put a tubeless plug in from the emergency kit I carry on the road bike and it's good for another 20 rides.
Might consider carrying one of those kits in the back pack too now.
With a mousse I wouldn't even notice this but good to know it saves your backside also when out alone.