Tire testing with Tubliss

Yea ive heard of west coast guys using slime, despite all you do there will be some loss due to air escaping through rubber, dont ask me how it does but it gets through, im not a scientist Jim. Actually Jeff told me this one day. I dont use slime because its messy but guys riding around massive cacti its good. Good old soapy water works great. My loss is always minute and its a great set up for mud, i never have had a failure of the system. Just becareful on removal, you can damage orange liner if you dont watch.

VE33 works great on the 165. Got about 26 hours of WFO riding in very dry SE woods, at about 50% tread left it still works well enough, but changed it to go racing. Installed an MC4 with about 10 pre-Tubliss hours on it. I armor-all'd it and stored it with an inflated tube, installed easy and sealed fine.
First race all summer for me, I failed but the bike and tire worked well

I have been using Tubliss front&rear for several years now. One of the first things I did to te150 few weeks ago. Took it over to Brown Mountain Wednesday running 5psi rear at81 desert rc(not regular at81)and 8psi front mx32. Have played around from 0-10psi rear and found 5-7 is best for me. Then of course beside the excellent traction and deading front end don't have worry about DNF race/riding.

Mounted up some Shinko 546's to try out. I have tubliss on both ends. The front tire has pretty tall ribs on the inside and didn't seal for crap dry. It was dropping about 4 psi in an hour. I dumped some slime in there so hopefully it'll seal up. The rear leaks down also, but not nearly as quickly.

The front is a 90/100, so here it is next to a Golden 216aa fatty for size comparison. Both tires are at 12 psi with tubliss.

The Golden leaks down too without sealant, but only like 1 psi every 1-2 hours.

I usually try to run without sealant in the tires to avoid the mess.

Good looking tires. Really happy with the Shinko 520 rear on my 300.
Are these on the 177? What size rear? Why run such high pressure? It sounds like they have strong sidewall which is ideal for running low pressure with Tubliss.

At the very least you need to put Armor All on the bead but sealer like slime is the best. Dry is not good. If you're worried about mess paint slime on both sides of the bead. IMO if you are going to run an offroad tire tubeless slime is a must.

I've been running them dry (when I could) for years with no problem. I use soapy water to mount and that is it.


That said, these Shinkos do seem to be holding pressure now with slime in them. I put a 110/100 on the rear. These are on my 177. Will be riding tomorrow to try them out up in PA before a trip to NC later this week.

I don't like how the bike feels with low low pressure in the front tire. The Golden worked well for me at 12-13 psi, so I figured I'd start there with the Shinko.

Yeah, if low pressure side is leaking down you didn't get a good seal on the bead. I've had no prob's using standard Tubliss method, except that lately I use their rim strip and a couple wraps of good duct tape. I had 1 tire leak down constantly, so I redid it with about twice as much soapy water. Now I just keep adding soapy water until the tire overflows which works out to @ 2 liters per tire. ArmorAll on the tube, liner, tire and bead makes install and seal much easier and better.

Per Jeff slavens suggestion I ran the Sedona 907 with 5 psi for the Tecate enduro and I was really pleased with how well it worked, especially in the rocks. In the front I ran the new golden 216 ds(it's a 4 ply instead of 2) at 10 psi and a heavy duty tube. That seemed to work quite well also. Didn't notice any wallowing.

I've had problems with Dunlop tires (especially the mx tires) leaking through the chord fibers and around the knobs... Tire slime solves this problem and I have little green dots all over the tires to prove it. This happens more on my son's YZ450, since he got quite a bit faster he works over a tire pretty quick and rips them up long before they are worn out. I also had problems with him cooking the rim tape on fast MX tracks. This happened more when he would do 30 and 40 min practice motos on tracks that he was 3rd and 4th gear pinned the majority of the time. The rim tape would get so hot it would get brittle and the edge would curl up and cut the high pressure inner tube. The fix is to use 6 wraps of black electrical tape and taper/layer it from thick in the middle over the spoke nipples to thin at the crown of the bead ledge of the rim. Even though I can't ride fast enough for long enough to have this rim tape cooking problem I have been using this method on all of my Tubliss installs. The electrical tape method was suggested to me by Jeff Douglas and I use it when I install other riders Tubliss for them since I never know how they will be riding.

Maybe you could try silicone caulk to smooth out any uneven. Jeff told me this

Brrr.




God I missed this bike. Tires seem to work well. Decent traction even on half frozen/snowy single track. They would slide predictably when I would get too excited with the throttle/brakes. 10 psi front, 6 in the rear.

Will need to ride more before I make a final decision on them.

I think there was a spate of tubliss inner tubes that got through quality control.
The first one I recieved had blisters in where the rubber seam hadn't bonded correctly.

No issues with the rear at all.
Still using tube front as I do a fair whack of road in the 360 so I'm avoiding mousse.

Good luck with the bib just keep em wet.
Mind you the rate you go through rubber you could run em dry and still be good.

Tubliss had indeed a bad series of inners, they failed near the valve.
I talked to the owner and had promptly two replacement inner tubes arriving at no charge.
I haven't had an issue since and did +100 hours several tires on them.
Wrecked the rear recently as on a ride I had a flat and some other people too so support vehicles got full.
I decided the ride it home slowly as I done before but this time I had a GT216 at the rear and they have a incredible soft sidewall and it overheated the lot and wrecked the whole thing, inner bladder exploding and all.
Pretty mad about it as it was still good for heaps more hours.

JEFF STANDS BEHIND IT 110% NO DOUBT

https://www.facebook.com/GibsonTyre/ well WTH never saw these before is this the new latest n greatest anybuddy try one yet mite be a PITA to get in the U.S.

No but at last I've got a local manufacture.
You usa guys don't know how frustrating not being able to get things is especially without a heavy import charge added to the cost each time.

P.s. they don't do 18" just mx sizes

really so just 19/21 in the TECH series there site kinda sucks but it says ENDURO just sayin maybe you shud ring'em up on the telli and say HAY WTF sense your all on the same island

I had a 1st generation Tubliss on my WR250 from 2010 until mid 2016 with no problems, in fact it was still good when I took it off and put the newest design on. It got scabbed about 3 years ago when I ran a staub flat MX tire with a soft sidewall, it shredded the mx tire but still made it 9 miles back to the truck on rough rocky single track.

I can't make my mind up on the Tubliss- put the Gen 2 front on my 525 with a new MX 51 Mounted it carefully, with Armoral and pumped the inner to 110, the cavity to 10. Rode my usual loop and had to plug three leaks. Next time out I hit a square edge rock at 60 + mph, it tore a side knob and started weeping. I put a fresh Dunlop 81 tire on, no leaks except when the bike sits for a week, the slime start to weep from the low point. Love the traction and braking, not wild about the handling at high speed on hard pack. Put another front on my son's 525, it leaks down less after sitting. Have a set of rears sitting on my tire rack, not rushing to use them. Toying with the idea of running them on my 501 for Baja, but I have at about 10 K on ultra heavy tubes at 15-18 psi without a flat. Would love to just carry a plug&go kit and two tiny tubes but I don't want to get caught out with a lot of leaky tire action in Baja. Guess I'll stick with medium heavy spare tubes and less extra clothes. Damn