Trails tire...WHY?

Discussion in 'Common Items on Husqvarnas: Tires/tubes/grips/etc' started by ElDiablo, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. Zim Husqvarna
    A Class

    Have a read of the following and try to make some sense of it,the Pirelli is listed in Oz as a Flat Track speedway tyre,Radial trials tyres are supposed to get great traction from having flexible sidewalls and as such should not like spinning up and sliding and in other radial trials tyres are horrible on the road with low pressures ,not nice,anyway the Pirelli has a much stiffer sidewall,is great on the road,allowed spinning and rear slides,plus great traction on big hills without ripping the ground up,they work a bit like the mini knobbys the FIM use in the 6 day only with more traction,be interested in other opinions re these tyres.
  2. CKPC Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    EastBay (NorCal)
    TR11 TRIAL WINNER. I have been happy but I may try the PIRELLI next just for a change..
  3. lairpost Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Vista, CA
    ...cause they are a fun way to mix things up, that's why I ride them from time to time.

    I prefer the IRC TR011 tubeless tire, it's sidewall is stiffer than the tube type and handles the road much better. I had trouble with the Dunlop bead staying seated at proper 5-7PSI pressures, no problem with either IRC but prefer the tubeless tire.
  4. bass_on_tap Husqvarna
    B Class


    So you use the tubeless tire with a tube? Any known problems with this combo?
  5. WoodsChick Administrator

    Location:
    Oakland, CA Miramonte, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    3 Terras, 2 `07 SM610s, `09 WB165,
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM, GasGas, Suzuki, Honda
    I've been running the same set-up (HD tube in a tubeless IRC) for over 5 years now with no problems. In that time I've had exactly 1 flat tire.


    WoodsChick
  6. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Trials people used to use tubes in the rear tire, but they have gone to tubeless. Tubeless & Tube type trials tires can both be used with tubes the difference is the bead is slightly different. But some trials people still use tube type in older trials bikes.

    I used the Dunlap 803 rear tubeless type with tube and except for the bead unseating while it was sitting in the garage at low pressures it worked great. Many report the bead separates from the rim on Excel rims especially Husky & a few KTMs.

    I've since switched to IRC tube type and it stays seated on the rim - but does not stick quite as well as the Dunlap, which in my case is a good thing (long story).
  7. IMO the IRC cannot be beat for pure traction plus they are kind of fun on the road, gas it around the corner and your sideways.:eek:

    I just finally tried the Pirelli and am very happy with it, its works great off road (way better than a knobby) and is very stable at speed even on the road, it does not have quite the traction on the IRC but it seems like more of an all around tire with the stiff side wall.
  8. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    You think they stick better than a Dunlap?

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  9. GoFaster Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North CA
    Dunlop 803 - I just noticed a Nobb in the middle missing, is the tire still safe or just less thorn resistant in that spot now?
  10. raisrx251 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Virginia
    Why use them? Because sometimes there are rocky hills like in this movie lol. In the first 15 seconds you will see me on my WR messing around riding a wheelie with my feet down. There is a longer one of me on Grave Ridge row 15-28. It was the ticket on that day.

    http://www.adrenalinevision.com/
  11. Poopy Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kamloops, BC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WB165
    What a nice change to see some quality video on the internet rather than the fuzzyvision you get on youtube.

    Where is the Grave Ridge video?
  12. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
  13. PALMER84ONE Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Silverado, CA.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 TE450 THE ROCKET
    Other Motorcycles:
    12 RS520, CRF150F/230F, YZ250
    Nice video quality, thanks for sharing that.
  14. Definately, they have such a thin sidewall they seem to put more rubber on the ground, the drawback is that weak sidewall makes then squirly at speed.

    I run mine until I'm missing more than 5 center knobs, unfortunately once 1 knob goes others seem to follow quickly.
  15. Poopy Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kamloops, BC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WB165
  16. WoodsChick Administrator

    Location:
    Oakland, CA Miramonte, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    3 Terras, 2 `07 SM610s, `09 WB165,
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM, GasGas, Suzuki, Honda
    They work just as well as the IRC, but they last half as long...if that.
    The knobs can't wait to take their leave, it seems.



    WoodsChick
  17. WoodsChick Administrator

    Location:
    Oakland, CA Miramonte, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    3 Terras, 2 `07 SM610s, `09 WB165,
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM, GasGas, Suzuki, Honda

    Mmm...I'd say you'd have to lose a few more knobs in order to be less thorn-resistant, but once you start losing them they disappear fast. This tire started the day's long ride with a few missing knobs. It made it back to camp many miles later with no drama and didn't lose even 1psi...


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    WoodsChick
  18. lairpost Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Vista, CA
    Yikes, the only cause I've heard for losing knobs is too much pressure...like over 10PSI. I've yet to lose a single knob after 8 trials tires, yet I ride them in the rocks (duh) and on the street. I change 'em out when there is about 3/16" of tread/knob left.
  19. WoodsChick Administrator

    Location:
    Oakland, CA Miramonte, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    3 Terras, 2 `07 SM610s, `09 WB165,
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM, GasGas, Suzuki, Honda
    8-10psi, and that tire had about a jillion miles on it...at least.


    WoodsChick
  20. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    What brand you using?