Yes, and that other thread has a lot more detail, which I am keeping track of locally on my computer.
For the record, I tried to locate the recommended oil for a bmw g650gs - and no joy... if anyone knows where to find that, please speak up. It is apparent from what I did uncover, is they do not recommend synthetic oil for the bmw g650gs... but they do for the TR650... I am beginning to sense a pattern..
Dealer told me Amsoil MCF 10w40 would work just fine. I have been running it in my Ducati's for years.
I am 100% sure you are correct, Amsoil looks like great oil. I went with this, I would buy locally, but there is a limit to my patience and in this case, I really do not like the "non-sale" prices I find locally, note "Free Super Saver Shipping" http://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06412-10W-50-4-Stroke-Motorcycle/dp/B008MISF54/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1362442538&sr=1-1-fkmr2&keywords=CASTROL POWER1 RACING SAE 10W-50 In addition, just to keep life simple, I also ordered a couple of KN-151 filters http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FGJSGQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 So, $60 for 6 quarts of oil, and 2 oil filters - total cost. And I don't have to drive to pick it up (which is a big deal at my location).
I signed up as a preferred customer, about $25 a year, me and all my buddies use the account. I just started running it in everything I own so I don't have to go looking for oil any more......comes to my door
I guess I'll jump in this thread: I use Rotella 15w40 JASO rated oil in any transmission clutch combo. It's cheap and I always have it around because I use it in my diesel truck. I have used Mobil Delvac when the local parts store had it ridiculously cheap and could not tell the difference. I use mobile full synthetic when there is no clutch in play, like my sons CRF450r that has two oil cases.(Rotella on the clutch side and Mobil on the engine side) I am an Ammsoil dealer for the sole reason of being able to buy 2-stroke mix oil. I would buy it from someone else locally but I don't know a nearby dealer that would mess with my small orders. Now for my personal opinion. Nothing beats a full synthetic. When a clutch is in the mix it's more important to change the oil to get the clutch dust out than it is to have the superior lube quality/durability of a full synthetic. If I have gallons of Rotella around I'm more likely to change my oil than if I'm waiting for some super trick oil with a picture of a motorcycle on the bottle to arrive on the UPS truck.
For sure I agree with this, and I seem to be more sensitive to how the clutch/shifter operates than most. For the record, I could not find Rotella or Mobil Delvac in anything above 30W in my local town. I just looked at every oil that everyone who participated in this thread is using and the 1 thing in common is - they all use at least 40W. 10-40, 15-40, 10-60, 20-50 - the top number is at least 40. Just trying to let everyone know what my particular situation is.
Coffee, I can never seem to find the oil I want, even here in Houston, a fair sized town. I've taken to just ordering on line and buying by the case. Same for oil filters.
In the dirt bikes I switched over to Rotella about a year ago. I think it's 15w-50, it's whichever one has the JASO-MA certification on it. Not all of the weights have the same certs, even for the same oil type. But I change the oil in that around every other race, so really it's not having to last long. I run the amsoil premix and order it straight from them as a "preferred customer" so I may go to their motorcycle oil for the TR, to give myself the best peace of mind that my dodo (you started something Kelly) will last as long as possible.
Same reasons I use the Hypuron. It's a syn. blend, high quality, and I can get it for less than $25/gal any day at the local Walmart. I also use it in my 4 stroke shared sump bikes.
I use high quality synthetic M/C spec. only in mine. Motul , Motorex, etc... I'm not rich at all nor am I an airline mechanic or rocket scientist. I don't mind splurging, though, being it only takes a liter and I've never had any mechanical issues, clutch related or otherwise. Piece of mind, I guess.
Do you all really think that oil is an issue outside racing/rallying ? Yeah, one has to use high quality synthetic oil from respectable producer, change it frequently enough (or more) and check the level from time to time, but other than that ?!? Yeah, it might be an issue for strained dirt/motocross machines where the work-time is measured in hrs, not miles/kilometers but for a 'normal' bike like 'Terra?? Especially that everyone swears that would not be used as dirt bike. Can someone elaborate in 5 simple sentences and enlighten myself...
I was just curious what oil people were using, I never said there were issues with any of the brands. I now live in an area where there is absolutely no selection to choose from, and needed a starting point. I used to live in an area where I could go and pick up oil locally, but that is no longer the situation.
Coffee, I wasnt trying to question the thread. It was a problem with myself rather After reading all those pages about voscosity or ash in the oil one starts to ask himself questions - maybe I'm doing something wrong and maybe its worth to import some of that AMSOIL nectar from US for big bucks to make my bike last longer ? Now I'm back to feeling sane again BTW, its an interesting reading about all those oil, despite the Bible mentioned is abit old...
The package arrived, will change oil and see how the shifting is next week. Also wanted to say that this "full synthetic" (that is at least what is says on the label, but do understand the msds states differently) is $30/gallon with an MA2 rating. Amazon does have all kinds of oil available, including the diesel oils, but they are not that much cheaper ($20/gallon?)... and several oils they sell are much more expensive than what I paid.