1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

250-500cc What piston rings last longest on nikasil???

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by juicypips, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. johnnyboy Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 125
    Other Motorcycles:
    TM 250f
    Yep same for me, Start the bike on choke while doing up helmet and pulling gloves on at a push, Flip choke off and off I go to my local riding spot thats around 2 miles away and stick to the speed limits 30 and a 40 mph zones, Always put a finger on the rad top on arrival just to make sure alls ok then ring its poor neck down the farmers lane, sometimes turn around and go back for another run just to smell the trail of castor Ive left behind me :lol:
    justintendo and juicypips like this.
  2. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    In my experiance 125's need next to no warming up seems the bigger the piston the more likly it is to seize.
    So do you know what rings n pistons in your bike justintendo?
  3. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    in my 360? it got a wossner size a after going to the machine shop and having them measure for me...everything else is either wossner or good old mahle.
  4. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Strange as i had cylinder bored out to D size wossner on 360 an was awesome has mental top end was brilliant untill 17hours then it picked up must not of warmed her up properly.
    Similar exp with 250 new nikasil n piston to suit got an hour out of it before both were toast an i run at 33:1 all i can think is putoline mx5 aint up to spec for el huskyo. :(
  5. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    yes, i hear you about mental top end. i did not think 360s ran that way. bad batch of oil? old maybe? hard to say but i wouldnt definitely get rid of it.
  6. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    It was a 1993 cylinder so yup good top end was like warp factor 9 captin!
    Will donate oil to a mate his honda cr250 runs sweet with it so he will be happy, time for maxima i think
  7. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    tills he starts losing compression anyway
  8. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Haha dont think he would notice.
  9. Miezie666 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2x YZ 125, 1x YZ250 2005, XT600 2KF
    I never had any problems with piston wear... was using Mitaka, Vertex, ProX (they tend to crack), Wössner Pistons, never really had any problems seizing.
    I m using STIHL Chainsaw 2stroke oil on alle engines (Banshee, YZ, WR, RM) and not having a single problem.
    I would check if your Combustion chamber is been modified, maybe using a different base gasket, something not been lined up correctly? are there any "Guides" around the lower bolts of the cylinder to keep it in postion when bolted up?
    Has the conrod been replaced with an aftermarket one? (had a similar issue on a 2007 RM 125- conrod was to long)
  10. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Yup rod is off a ktm 360 1997 it was identical on micromiter, also the cylinder studs have dowels on the right hand side.
    How would a base gasket wear the rings excessivly?
  11. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    i guess it could alter port timing and get a ring too close to a port??
  12. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Rings will be same anywhere through out stroke, port timing yes but that wont affect life span of rings, would it?
    Idk
  13. Miezie666 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2x YZ 125, 1x YZ250 2005, XT600 2KF
    Maybe- but only maybe- the higher compression will cause more wear? whats the squish on your engine?
    Are u 100% shure the rod has the same dimensions a sthe husky part? thats exactly what caused the RM 125 engines problems... rod lenght was different...
  14. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    I set squish to 50thou any less and the bands doing nothing and unburnt mix is just there for the ride, an more and i would of had to machine combustion chamber.
    That was done after the logged 60odd hours before it was just stock all i did was whip cylinder off new rings and put everything right back where it was.
    Yup im 100% sure the rods dinentions are spot on identical.
    Cheers for the heads up tho may just try mahle or veryex for rings an shove a new piston in after a replate.
  15. Miezie666 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    2x YZ 125, 1x YZ250 2005, XT600 2KF
    did you hone the cylinder ? just thinking- sometimes you can feel where the ring stopped moving upwards in the cylinder near the head gasket- the will be a groove/edge, so with a new piston and a thinner base gasket the ring will always run against this edge wich causes excessive wear.
  16. Mikey465 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR360
    I rebuilt my 2002 360 with a new rod, newly plated bore, genuine husky piston and running castrol TTS at 40:1. We run the same mix in three different bikes which have all given excellent wear life.
    I also noticed ring wear after about 50hrs when looking up the exhaust port. The rings are really thin compared to some of our other bikes so they will probably wear quicker on that basis. I was still quite disappointed considering the cost of the genuine parts and are now running wossner pistons with better results. I can also afford to give it a new wossner piston more regularly for piece of mind than a husky piston.
    I feel the 360, being based on 250 parts, is just pushing the limits especially if you like using revs.
    As its such a lovely torquey motor you dont have to thrash it, so it is worth it.
  17. AUSKY Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Cairns, FNQ,Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 TE510 96 WR125 00 WR360 13 WR165
    Other Motorcycles:
    1999 XR250 83 YZ 490
    Were the rings installed backwards? by any chance?

    That can cause excessive ring wear.