09 txc forks leaking

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

just noticed the left side of my fork was leakin today. whats a ballpark cost to get theese things worked on and setup? if im goin to take it in to Halls i might as well have em set it up nice n sweet if its not to much cash
thanks

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

also what options do i have to mess with....its a 450 with marzochis (spelling?)

 

[ChuckB]

the seals are fairly easy to do maybe 30 bucks for seals and bushings. watch you tube dual chamber fork seal change with the rockymtnatv mec
just go step by step with him and everything should go good

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

thanks chuck, ive been reading on here about gettin things revalved and worked up suspensions etc whats all that entail how much does it help out?

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

is this something that needs done a few times a year??

 

[HUSKYnXJnWI]

Fork oil is maintenance which dependent on how often you ride/ conditions: probably "should" be done 1-2 times a year for average riders- many probably don't change till seals go.
Seals and wipers- wear but sometimes are just dirty and need to be cleaned. My seals have generally lasted 2-3 years. SOme people more some less. Its also somewhat dependant on fork and axle alignment.
Bushings- should last longer than seals- but should be inspected when taken apart (dependant on use/ condition of oil)
Revalve/springs: should only need to be done once if set up for the rider and conditions properly.
Call Halls, LTR, Enduroengineering, WER,... for pricing.

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

thanks, ill probably run by halls this afternoon. do you use one of those thin pieces of plastic to clean yours? im guessin it slides up into the seal to get dust and whatever out of them..do they work?

 

[knobbytired]

I'd suggest investing in a set of Dirtskins (or similar), once you get this sorted. Waaay worth the money. Saves having to clean under the seals. Seals last a long time when there's no dirt getting at them. Just clean under the dirtskins & spray a bit of WD40 or light oil in them every 2-3 rides.
Use a hose clamp to hold them in place instead of a zip tie

 

[robertaccio]

remember to always bleed your forks, i strap the thing down for transport and bleed, then always bleed before ride and even mid ride as they heat up. these zokes seem to gain pressure more than any of my other forks. this can also help with seal leaks.

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

when bleeding, is it common to one side have more pressure built up than the other? its been that way since i bought it.

 

[ray_ray]

when bleeding, is it common to one side have more pressure built up than the other? its been that way since i bought it.

It is with mine ... One side may have pressure and one may not ...

A dialed in suspension is more important than engine performance to me ... Seal changing is not to big an issue itself (clean first to be sure dirt is not the problem) and if you have the money, it is worth getting the suspension dialed in to some degree ... You can do it yourself and the oil weights and oil volume changes are easy enough but playing with the stacks is a little difficult without instructions on the changes .. This actual work is not too complex or hard but it is a little delicate and time consuming, ESP the first time ...

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

talk to jay hall today about the forks, he told me depending on what your riding in and how much riding your doing seals are going to leak its just how it goes. hes heading to the isde in finland soon so ill probably have him do the seals next week then we talked about doing the new springs and valving etc. goin to wait till he gets back for that. im kinda stoked and i dont even know wtf its goin to be like lol whats the different in a bike sprung for your weight and a stocker?? anything else on the suspension i should ask about?? while im saving money......lol the main thing is i want to be able to do the motocross stuff AND do the trail stuff ...also turning the adjsutments to the + side is to make them stiffer correct (like for jumping on the track etc)??????

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

finally checked it out today, seems to be that the rubber seal isnt workin as well on the left side as the right i took both sides off and the left side had a ton of crap in it the right side had non. it seems to have made a small dirt clod from all the dust compacting. i cleaned it out well see this weekend.

 

[pvduke]

Every couple/few (or every muddy) rides dislodge the wiper with a small screwdriver working your way 'round like a paint can lid. Pull it down out of the way and clean way up in the oil seal with a q-tip.

If you "film" the oil/lip seal be VERY careful and lube it up good with something. I usually don't but when I do for others scoots I make one with a tapering end that's long, thin and the very tip of it is rounded and there's no edges, burrs or anything sticking up, really important not to knick the seal or shove something in there wider than 1/4" or so.

BEFORE you slide the wiper back up look for knicks or burrs in the lower leg. Feel for same too. 600 grit will knock the burr down. I carry a little swiss army knife that has a fine nail file on it and more than once it's saved the day after a dump in the rocks when you are two hours from the truck. Dump all yer oil from a cut seal and it's bye-bye bushing and stantion.

After that slide your wipers up and down a few times getting all the crap out and hose it off good with cleaner.

Smear some fork or what have you oil (30w is fine, no grease!) on the oil seal lip, pop yer wiper back in place.

Fork/shock oil don't last that long. Fork valves are VERY sensative to contamination.

Bleed yer forks every chance you get- it makes a diff! Some pump up a lot, some not at all.

If my bikes sit a lot I'll service the seals first then pump the fork a few times every couple few weeks. They drool and weep some but usually clean up after a ride, if not, I replace them. No big.
My 04 CR250R Honda went through fork seals every other ride. I "blueprinted" one set of forks here at work, still did it. God I hated that bike. But I can now change Showa seals in under 30 mins. off the bike.

Bottom line is fork seals are consumeables like filters, fluids and pads. How long they last is usually beyond the user's control. and that's where Motosportz comes in...

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

i had noticed some wax type stuff inside the rubber wiper, replace that with a lil oil correct?

 

[pvduke]

Good find. That's old grease maybe. Euro's are famous for lithum grease on seals. It dries out, cakes and flakes prop open the seals. (KTM's did that too) Grease also is gloppy and harbors moisture.

Use 30w or fork oil on the seal.

When ya replace the seals wrap the end of the stantion with saran-wrap or similar and oil it good and the before the new bushing goes on and before the seal slides on so you don't cut the seal and it slips right on over the bushing cut-outs. Not doing this is a cut seal every time as those cut-outs are razor sharp.

Do a set on your own it's nice to know how to do it. It easy too once ya know the drill. Just dump the oil, spray the stack off really good, make it all sterile. Install new seals with the tool and yer good to go. I'/d come over and do it fer ya but ya better have the CRP plot up and running with some bucks forraging first.... we can use the 300mag I recently made and pick 'em off from your porch bud while having coffee.

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

thanks for the info, ill work my way up to doin a set one of theese days. my work area in my garage is still in the the makin.... honestly ive only shot one deer with a bow. a big doe its kind of a newer hobby. nice rifle, that would definatly do the job!

 

[pvduke]

Copy. More of a bird hunter meself. I LOVE quail. And, am jealous of your proprety...private track, wildlife galore, and a smilin' micro-banzai to share yer shreddin' adventures with.

Good on ya bud!

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

thers been a cubby of quail out here since we built the house 15 years ago. i dont mess with them though. i have noticed the increase in doves around the track area!! and we have a ton of rabbitts im goin to have a war with this year. i havent done much bird hunting(much of any hunting really) either but im thninking of joining a club they ahve pheasant, quail, dove squirrel turkey and deer. they are too damn high on the deer n turkey though. brucie wanted to go turkey huntin this year so we went. didnt get one but at least seen one. you guys hunt the deer differently out ther from what ive seen we sit in trees here yall glass em then use the rifle. that might be more my style at least your movin around a lil bit. im goin to try to make it to my buddies texas ranch this year to get one possibly.

 

[WHITEROCKET5.9]

and i cant take the credit lol i have great folks that have built the buisness up to have the cool stuff for the family to enjoy.