• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

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2008 te250 w/310 kit

thenash79

Husqvarna
A Class
hello, i have been reading all specs on 2009 an 2010 te310's and they claim 12.9 compression ratio stock , but athena claims they lowered raito to 12.5 when u do there kit. I have installed 09 310 cylinder and piston on mine but never checked if it was different. Any thoughts? Anyone ever milled head for more compression? Or is there different h/c pistons?
 
12.9 to 12.5 is not a big difference, most gauges aren't accurate enough to show you the difference of a true .4 PSI. I am in the process or replacing the Athena head gasket with OEM 310 on my 08 250 with the 300 kit. The Athena gasket is leaking and from what I read they all tend to do that after a while. I found there are 3 different thicknesses, 0.7, 0.8 and 0.9 for the OEM part. I suspect the athena brand gasket is the thickest to allow for the variances in each motor. Building a kit as a manufacture it is safer to make a kit that works to replace all three rather than three different kits. I am trying to determine now if the three thicknesses are due to keeping a consistent compression or a clearance issue. If not a clearance issue I plan to use the 0.7 gasket and get the most compression possible while leaving everything un-machined and using OEM gaskets.

Insight or shooting some holes in my thought process is very welcome!
 
i am looking for more lowend power,right now i have power up kit arrow slipon no cat with 09 310 cylinder , piston , ecu(tuned with i beat twice but still have bad spot off idle) . i have 13/50 gearing an i would like to put 13/48 for the riding i do but i need more punch. i want to get power commander but i want to try an find a race ecu to change ignition curve first then put power commander on to dial in fuel curve.
Has anyone ever ported head?
milled head for more compression?
Installed race cams?
310kit higher compression piston?
450 throttle body?
full exhaust that is worth $900 to $1200 there asking?

I have so much money in this bike already just trying to make it right for me but i don't want to spend another 3 grand on her just to deal with the 280lb weight. i came off two stroke honda that weighed 175lbs. Husky spoiled me with all the bells an whistles that i love(e start,lights,plate,etc...)but she is a pig. If i can't wake her up for around 1,500 i will sell an start with new 2011 te310 thats 20 to 30 lbs lighter. i'm only 135 lbs soaking wet (i know eat a sandwich) an she gets to be a handfull tryin to throw here around in single track or in the pits. U HAVE SPOILED ME HUSQVARNA NOW I WANT MORE FOR LESS. I have done tires, guards,suspension,310kit,bars,throtle tube, headlight,braces,slipon,all the little odds and ends,an ibeat tuned 3 times. I don't know what to do,$8500 for new bike or $4500 bike with $2500 that still needs $2000 to wake up. sorry for rant i just want her to rip.
 
man just realized ur only in brick,i'm in matawan about 20 min from u,that post pic sure looks like the pines,there is some great riding there. How u like your trailtech light? what a difference over stock huh, it's like driving as truck through the woods.
 
i think its going to be alot more than .4 psi on the compression gauge.Your not talking about 12.9 to 12.5 psi for static compression test.I think compression psi should be alot more like 20 to 30 psi difference,but i could be wrong.i found this on net but its about car engine,there is so many variables i think without getting your actual cylinder volume,piston dish or dome volume,cc head,headgasket volume,etc.. i think its going to be a guess. Also there is static an running compression, on a engine u can check compression by kick or turning starter over with throttle open which will give u static compression(100psi to 175psi etc... U can also turn engine over faster like checking one cylinder on a car while it is running and get a running compression,usually to check leaking valves,blowby,bad cam lobes ,etc...Numbers on a running compression test are a lot lower like 40 to 70psi. i'm saying this cause on top of the guessing what exact volume combustion chamber u have u also have to take in account how the camshaft and cranking speed change numbers. Ohhh i'm getting to deep with this here is what i found. if what i have said is wrong please lead me to the light
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So What Cranking Pressure Can We Expect To See Then?

For an average road engine we don't need to calculate the effect of all the above factors because the expected cranking pressure will be quoted by the manufacturer. Haynes manuals and other tuning guides also quote the figures. If the data is not available you can make a good estimate of the expected cranking pressure from a healthy engine just from the compression ratio. You can expect the cranking pressure in psi for a road engine with a standard cam to be about 17 to 20 times the value of the compression ratio. So our engine with a CR of 10:1 should generate between 170 and 200 psi. The better the condition of the engine the closer the figure will be towards the top end of this range. If the engine has been modified by fitting a different cam then you need to make some allowances. Fast road cams will reduce the expected figure by 10 psi or so. The best thing to do is take a set of compression readings as soon as the engine has been built so that you know what it generates in good condition. For competition engines it's even more important and I recommend to all my customers that they do a compression test after every race to make sure that nothing inside the engine is going wrong. The vast majority of them take no notice of course because it involves a bit of work. Finding a potential problem before it leads to an engine blow up can save a lot of time and money in the long run though. Copyright David Baker and Puma Race Engines
The cranking pressure can also be used as guide to setting the compression ratio to suit competition camshafts. The longer the cam duration the higher the CR needs to be to make it work properly. As explained above, the later inlet valve closing of the long duration cam will reduce the cranking pressure but when you raise the CR this compensates and the cranking pressure comes up again. My rule of thumb for normally aspirated competition engines is I don't like to see less than 200 psi cranking pressure regardless of cam duration if the CR has been matched to the cam correctly. Anything less than 180 psi and the cam won't be working at its best, especially at low rpm.
An equation I use for estimating cranking pressure from static compression ratio (CR) for engines in good condition with standard road cams is as follows.
Cranking pressure (psi) = CR^1.3 x 14.7 x 2/3
CR^1.3 is the Compression Ratio raised to the power 1.3. On pocket calculators you can do this with the y to the x function.
For modified engines, or more specifically engines with long duration cams you need to then apply the following approximate factors.
Fast road cam - multiply by 0.95
Rally cam - multiply by 0.90
Full race cam - multiply by 0.85
Example. A rally engine with 11:1 static compression ratio.
11^1.3 = 22.58
22.58 x 14.7 x 2/3 x 0.90 = 199 psi
 
Are you still running the '08 ECU? The actual 310 ECU will give you the CO adjustments when p/u. No need for a PC then, imo.
 
Okay thats a lot of compression ratio math. I just want to get a little more spank out of my tc250/310 as well. I am probably going to ride it for one more season so I don't want to spend that much on it. What would be the best bang for the buck porting/polishing for $500 or new pipe for about the same? The tc with a 300 kit is comparable to a 2009 yz250f that I also have in the garage. I've posted this before that I think there is more to be had from this engine just not sure what the best way to get it or if it is worth it. It would have been nice to have a 350 kit available to make the conversion more worth while.
 
bike has 09 310 ecu with neutral light flashing issue. been to dealer twice for a tune but it is a little better when i get it back but after first 25 miles goes right back to same runability issues,i was thinking it was tuning itself or relearning but it have powerup kit with no o2 sensor in. u can hold if right off idle and listen to is spit and spudder.It feels real rich the entire bottom end them wakes up when the rpms get up there. i was going to install power commander cause i want to tune an stop paying per tune.
 
i want to throw in 08 250 ecu an run the powercommander. that would stop neutral light an allow me to try to clean bottom end up.i hope that will wake bike up but if she is still lazy i think i'm going to get 2011 te310 an put p/c on that so i stop wasting money. i know this is a trail bike an i'm expecting a race bike but i would like more power.i know a better ignition curve ,more timing,better gas,little more compression,port job,better exhaust,racier camshaft profile,and better fuel tuning with p/c would do the trick ,but who?where?how much?
anyone been there done that?anyone playing with one now?i can't be the only one out here wanting the perfect woods machine!
 
man just realized ur only in brick,i'm in matawan about 20 min from u,that post pic sure looks like the pines,there is some great riding there. How u like your trailtech light? what a difference over stock huh, it's like driving as truck through the woods.
That picture was taken at Byron State Forest last spring, living 40 min from there is great.
 
i'm renting a house down there this year i just leave from back yard now, but of course this year has been the hardest for me to take the time out to go there.looks like everyone is conent with just there big bore. i think im going for power commander first an see if it cleans bottom end up, if not i think i can just get another connector an use on new 11 310 so it wont be a waste of money. i knew i should have ported the heck out of the head while i had it off , i thought the big bore was going to be enough for at least two season but i was wrong. anyone know where to at least get head pipe an is it worth doing?
 
I run the P-C on mine and it was dyno tuned by Ferracci, it has plenty of bottom end for a woods bike.
 
I did the 08 TE 250 to 300 kit from Husky in the summer of 09. The kit from Husky came with a new ECU which was essentially the 09 310 ECU. Not only did it not run very well - hesitation off idle - but because it was designed for the 09 bike, the neutral light kept flashing. I eventually put my original 250 ecu back in to get the dash working properly and put a PCIII on and did my own "seat of the pants" tuning. Bike runs beautiful ever since - more power than I even need for the tight rocky trails in PA. Still have the stock power up exhaust - no need for upgrades.
 
If anyone is running the same set up as mine with the Power Commander I can share the map file with you. Turn on the accelerator pump, that made a huge difference.
 
I'm running 13 / 52 but I have a tall trials tire on the rear and ride almost exclusivly tight single track - very little road. Top speed is about 50MPH on the road without wringing its neck.

Powder - I'd be interested in seeing how a dyno tuned map compares to my "seat-of-the-pants" tuned map. I have a PCIII but don't have the accelerator pump....is it available for the PCIII?
 
The '08 TE 250 I put the Motosportz/Husky kit on (w/310 ECU) has the '08 p/u Arrow, cap and plug. Everything else is stock, gearing to. It didn't run so well at first from being lean. Ended up with all three CO settings at 110%. She is loving the bike now. It flat out rips! There is quite a bit less soot in her exhaust compared to my '08 TE 510 with the full Husky p/u kit. So 110% across all three CO's doesn't seem to rich in comparison to the '08 Husky p/u map. Mayby give the 110%'s a try.
 
Yes it's called PM here too. I think the way it's acheived (with the new format) is you click on my name "MChammer" just below my picture and it opens up my profile where you can type away. Coffee may have better instructions.
 
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