• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

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    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

Agip 10w60

jellyrug

jellyrug

Husqvarna
AA Class
I thought to post an oil analysis for my TE610ie.

The additive package looks OK, but man this bike teared up the viscosity in no time. It dropped down to a 10W40.

Initially, I'm not sure if Husky tested this, and why they want a 60 weight? It could be that they expect fuel dilution, or they want a thicker oil as they were concerned about loosing the film, or running much higher temperatures than normal.

If a 60 weight was important to them, this is definetely not going to do the job.

Not sure if I wnat to use this again, as I have a lot of the stuff left.:excuseme:
 

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Thanks for sharing your oil analysis. Still, 1000 miles is alot for any oil in a motorcycle- but it depends on what you are exactly doing. I change oil a bit more frequent for what I do. I have doubt I hit 300 miles before an oil change in normal circumstances. My 450 only holds about a quart and a half- so I change it sooner.
 
Most in OZ use 10/40 or 10/50 and change regulary due to heat and dust. That said we get excellent fuel here. Most seem to change between 300 and 500 kms say 200 to 300 miles with ever second oil change an oil filter change is carried out.
 
Thanks for the post and not sure why these engines would need anything over 40-50WT as is the case in all other engines ... But starting at 60WT does allow a longer drop before you go under 40wt ... But having a good 50WT hold it's viscosity serves the same purpose ..

When should the oil break down? Not sure but 1,000 miles sounds like quite a few miles ... I'd think a engine would be OK with > 40WT at operating range.... But how much longer will it stay at >40WT?

Did the oil look really black in the sample when you sent it in? And you gonna take any more samples? What is the plan there?

I'm about on UR schedule ghte ... I try to keep it on the shorter side of UR the mileage #s ... with an SS filter tossed in ...
 
The oil looked a bit dirty, but from the analysis it could have been left in for a lot longer, as insolubles were low and the additive package was intact. The fuel dilution was OK, but a bit higher than I would like, this is mainly due to lots of short runs with the bike.

If viscosity breaks down, it normally happens within the first 300 miles.

The TE610 manual says change the oil at 3,100 mile intervals.

I filled again with AGIP 10W60 this time, but may try something else at the next change.

I used AGIP 5W40 on my Hayabusa and got the same thing, it sheared down to a 5W30 in about 1,200 miles.

Also had the oil on my Harley tested when changing at around 1,000 miles, the oil was standard Harley factory fill and it held it's 20W50 viscosity perfectly, changed it aslo to AGIP 10W60, so we will see how that works out.

In short, it appears as if AGIP are not using an expensive viscosity polymer and a 10W60 has to stretch a long ways.
 
jellyrug;133023 said:
Also had the oil on my Harley tested when changing at around 1,000 miles, the oil was standard Harley factory fill and it held it's 20W50 viscosity perfectly, changed it aslo to AGIP 10W60, so we will see how that works out.
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The oil that is in a Harley motor doesn't have to withstand the rigors of being run through the transmission gears, so the AGIP may also fare better in that engine.
 
Dirtdame;133024 said:
The oil that is in a Harley motor doesn't have to withstand the rigors of being run through the transmission gears, so the AGIP may also fare better in that engine.
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Some say viscosity breakdown due to transmission shear is a myth.

We shall see, I will have it analysed at the next change.
 
jellyrug;133033 said:
Some say viscosity breakdown due to transmission shear is a myth.

We shall see, I will have it analysed at the next change.
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I can guarantee that viscosity break down due to the shear induced by transmission gears meshing together is not a myth. I'm actually not surprised to see a 10-60w weight oil of any brand lose some of the higher end viscosity in a short period. I'm also pretty sure that as it approaches a narrower viscosity range like 10-40w it likely becomes more stable.
 
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