• 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

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250-500cc Does autoclutch turn wr300 into cheater bike?

firecrotch said:
So early last spring i was trail riding and my right boot caught on a stump and twisted back violently. It was one of those "oh god" moments. I rode back to the truck and it was sore the next day but nothing major, BUT there was no way in hell I would have been able to kick start it that day. So I still havent bought an autoclutch for mainly that reason.
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Get an e-start, or have a friend start it in an emergency, or get off the bike and use your other leg to start it in an emergency.
 
454x said:
One of the main reasons for the stock clutch feel was so many complaints with to lite of a clutch feel on the Z Start Pro.People wanted an auto clutch with a "stock feel" to it.
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My problem is the clutch feel not takes all four finger to pull in and is "twice as hard " as it was before ... Called rekluse and they said it had to have springs this stiff to help with the torque the motor produces..
 
Kevin_TE250 said:
They have it ... I was the test bed for this.. It's not the full clutch just the ring... and Walt is right about the clutch pull it has the stock clutch feel to it, which is a disadvantage if your running the Left hand rear brake.
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Did you run the orange clutch springs? I just cant believe its this stiff... And the fact it will not slip.. I amd going to put the heavy springs in next.. Do you know what set up you had the best luck with?
 
mac75 said:
Did you run the orange clutch springs? I just cant believe its this stiff... And the fact it will not slip.. I amd going to put the heavy springs in next.. Do you know what set up you had the best luck with?
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Don't quite know the color springs. I know it's set up for the lowest stall / engagement
 
mac75 said:
I just installed my exp 2.0 last week. So far I am not happy with it.. In the past i have ran the z-start and pro on other bikes and this worked nothing like them... My clutch pull is doudle of what it used to be... Very , very hard to pull in.. ( rekluse told me there is nothing they can do about it with this design) I cant get it to slip either... climbing hills and 2nd gear starts require lots of manual clutch now.. Not easy with the addded stiffness to the clutch.. I am going to try the stiffer spring this weekend to see if it lets the rpms up before it engages.. The bike was very awkward to ride cause you where forced to fight the clutch all the time.. Tight technical trails where difficult cause the bike would want to wheelie evrywhere.. Ill let you know if it gets better.
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What bike do you have?
 
motosapiens said:
it can still stall in a crash or if your jetting isn't perfect, or if you stop to splint up your broken leg, etc....
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+1 If your on the gas and u get all crossed up and hit the rear brake while the clutch is engaged the bike will stall.
 
I have some experience with auto clutches. Here are my thoughts

The first auto clutch I had was a Z-Start on my KTM 380. It was just OK. Hated the way the clutch lever felt with it. Sold it and got a Z-Start Pro for the 380. This worked very well and it turned my 380 into an unstopable trail eater.

Sold the 380 but kept the auto clutch. Was going to install it in my new KTM 300XC. Never did. Found that the with the e-start (yes, mine actually worked!) on the 300 I didn't really need the auto clutch. You see the main reason I had the auto clutch in the 380 is I hated being hung up in a precarious position on a hill, stalled, and having to perform gymnastic maneuvers to get the bike started without tumbling down the hill side. As I am sure many of you know this is both frustrating and exhausting.

So I sold the Z-Start Pro.

So along comes my KTM 505. I find a used Z-Start Pro for it and decide to try it out. Not good. Sold the that one. Found a EXP 2.0 for it. Just OK. It does give the best clutch lever feel of any of them. You see I am of the opinion when you have a bike with so much torque and power as the 505, YOU have to be in control of the clutch. I now have the EXP 2.0 out of the 505 and may just keep it for single track season, if I decide to continue on with one bike.

Which brings us back to the present where I am contemplating purchasing a WR 300 for a dedicated single track bike and reserving the 505 as my desert mount.

I rode a local riders 09 WR 300 today and am very impressed with the bike. Power is good, although seems a little weak off the bottom compared to my past KTM 300's. That could be misleading though since I hopped off my 505 on to the 300. The 505 yanks hard from the first crack of the throttle so I could be confusing this. Loved the roominess of the WR. Didn't feel as cramped as the KTM's and standing was much more comfortable. Handling was very planted and precise.

The big minus though is the kick start only. You see after 3 years or so of e-start I have turned into a big sissy when it comes to starting the bike. As we drove home though the memories of the 380 with the auto clutch came back to mind and how you only had start a few times a day due to the fact that you weren't stalling it. And that starting is on your terms, flat ground at the trail head or after you have taken a break, etc.

So a new WR 300 may still be in the cards. Their current pricing makes the addition of an auto clutch not so daunting.
 
I run a z start pro on a 250f. It is a more efficient clutch actuation than what a rider can do and is less tiring. It also makes it easier running a gear high on rough ground and helps you get through tight stuff better.

Tip: You still have to be in a correct gear. So if 2nd or 3rd are the right choices, don't run 4th just cause the clutch will let you. You'll burn it out and it won't perform well anyways.

You pretty much will never stall which is great.
 
I took my first ride yesterday with my z-start pro. It was only my second ride on the bike. The answer is most definitely yes. It was such an easy bike to ride. I was worried about being able to get the front tire up for low speed logs, but it wasn't an issue at all. Just lean back a bit pull up and gas it, no problems at all. It was super fun.
 
Riding in December : ) .. gotta like it.
Thanks for the review giantjoe, I have yet to try mine out.
 
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