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[Norman Foley]

How do you fix it if you get a flat when riding?

The point is... you don't get flats, unless the the mousse totally fails (usually due to running at high speeds, at high temps). This is why the lube is important and a if you run the same tires for a long time, they need to be unmounted, inspected and lubed regularly. They start out at about 13 PSI and gradually degrade and get softer. You can run the older/softer ones in more technical conditions, when you want lower pressure.

It's a lot of work, but to serious racers, to whom a flat is disaster... it worth it!

 

[Tinken]

Well, you can get a flat with a mousse, but it usually includes total tire loss to do it. Mousse grease greatly increases the life of your mousse and helps to cool it when running at high speeds.

 

[Mike-AK]

Thank you all for educating me. We've got moose up here, but we don't put 'em in our tires.

 

[Johnrg]

So considering that heat increases with running lower pressures and may exceed what temps a tire is designed for/can stand... Has anyone experienced complete tire disintegration and disaster. In the old days on the paved track we looked for 10%f to 15%r for increase in pressure cold to hot as optimum and we'd adjust to fit that criteria. I would think tires really get abused these days and wonder if tire temp is out the window with mousses and super low pressures.... Then again I would not hit high speeds on hard or asphalt after a period without some concern. I never run low pressures for the most part even on tubeless w/mtb for sake of not flatting out as most terrain contains some rock.

 

[Motosportz]

As there is no air in the Mousse why not install a grease nipple in the shrader hole and pump grease into it periodically?

 

[Tinken]

I have been working with different compounds to transfer heat from the tread surface to the rim where the heat can be sinked off. Grease nipples seems like a good idea, although it would take a lot of them.

 

[juicypips]

Have a nipple on one side and the rim lock hole to purge out the otherside stop squeezing when it oozes out the rim lock hole... Mousse is fully greased. Im with kelly on this one.

 

[Mike-AK]

Y'all have fun greasing your nipples. I'm gonna stick with tubes and air.

 

[troy deck]

Y'all have fun greasing your nipples. I'm gonna stick with tubes and air.

i'v obviously have never had ur nipples greased u should try it

 

[ajaxauto]

If you use the Enforce tire soap which is sold thru Zip Ty racing and it is used as directed the mousse will last a long time I get up to a year of racing Nationals and many regular rides out of a mousee. Then the mousse goes in the practice bikes I have a few that are over 3 years old and still are ok to use I have never hurt one yet using the Enforce tire soap

You can not use to much soap just stuff it full rince it off and go ride most tires are shot in 2 to 300 miles so get a new tire lube it up and ride last a long time if done correct all my bikes have mousse

 

[Johnrg]

Good to hear. If I could get away with a mousse for my riding would sure negate the worry of a flat and even with a tire tear, could zip tie to the rim and be OK. For me though 300 miles means and oil change but removing/replacing 2 tires not in the cards. Eventually progress will bring us better "run flats" more suitable for a mix of conditions and longer life. Maybe what we need is someone to develop "The Mousse Tube™" . A center core of a HD tube with a Mousse outer shell. For faster terrain and less heat you add a couple of lbs and deflate to suit otherwise.

 

[juicypips]

Or just go tubliss....

 

[Johnrg]

Considered it a year or so ago but at the time wasn't ready to drill the appropriate added holes and a local shop manager desert racer wasn't thrilled with them. He suggested tubes with Ride-On and higher pressures. My main concern is just getting out of the woods/boonies before nightfall safe. Could go any which way. What makes the most sense is running tubeless with Ride-On. Unfortunately any failure of the bead lock tube at 115lbs means my hand pump isn't effective for it and need to carry co2, and a sidewall cut can take you out. Any solution needs to be simple in the field.

 

[fletchman45]

Never ran them till several years ago when I asked jay why he ran them. Simple reply all the preperation and bs involved and your drive. Don't want a flat. I thought about the race in Wisconson five hour drive one way. And everything else and said put them in....

 

[fletchman45]

How do you fix it if you get a flat when riding?

No flats!lasts longer then the tire and if your lazy like I am the cool thing is you don't need a tire pressure gauge! When it looks flat its time to pitch the insert. Spendy to buy and spendy to have mounted. I always thought would be cool to have a race set of wheels ready to go with this setup and stockers for practice! Someday...

 

[Tinken]

spendy to have mounted.

It is not easy to install a mousse. Takes a special kind of tire changer and a lot of spoons. I like to use a couple of vice grips too. This is why we built our DGTT tire tool. The tire seen bellow is actually the one we used to race Vegas to Reno on this year.

 

[ajaxauto]

Go mouse or HOME Once install go ride a long time no problem We spend 10,000 for a new bike then worry about a flat Really
Call Zip Ty order a mouse order some soap Install it and go ride trouble free hit any thing you want

 

[troy deck]

what is that thing it looks funky like a cross between an old claw action Bridgestone and a trials tire

 

[Tinken]

GT 723 - Rear tire F.I.M. approved. Designed for rally raid, it is developed to dig and penetrate soft terrains, providing excellent grip in all conditions. Polygonal knobs placed as an arrow on sidewall give acceleration and cornering traction. Carcass and compound are designed to resist to hard stress of enduro races.

Personally, I prefer the 908RR.

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[troy deck]

but you dont have a shipping container full of those right