GS-911 service tool

[JBrown]

Thanks to everyone involved in this. I appreciate all the time you have spent. This is going to be a must have purchase for me in the near future. Back in the summer when my check engine light came on I had to drive 5.5 hrs one way to get it checked out. None of the dealers around Kansas City would help me so I drove to halls cycle in Illinois. I was scheduled to leave the next day for my trip to Colorado. They got me in with one day notice and got it fixed and on my way home by noon. Saved me from canceling my trip. This is why I am going to need the gs-911 I don't want to have to go through that again.

 

[hasenpfeffer]

Thank you Wayne, and everyone involved for making this happen!

I did not notice the hyperlinked control unit text. Thanks for the tip. That makes it more clear.

What I really wanted to know about how logging LC-2 data vs GS-911 real time values function is whether the O2 data from the factory ECU will provide similar data to LC-2 logging? I thought the LC-2 used a wideband O2 sensor, while the factory sensor is narrowband and I was unclear on whether similar data can be obtained from the GS-911 using the factory O2 sensor.

 

[bikehunter]

Just got a GS-911 for the Strada, still haven't plugged it in to the bike but at least i can be independent from the dealers

 

[Roger 04 RT]

Thank you Wayne, and everyone involved for making this happen!

I did not notice the hyperlinked control unit text. Thanks for the tip. That makes it more clear.

What I really wanted to know about how logging LC-2 data vs GS-911 real time values function is whether the O2 data from the factory ECU will provide similar data to LC-2 logging? I thought the LC-2 used a wideband O2 sensor, while the factory sensor is narrowband and I was unclear on whether similar data can be obtained from the GS-911 using the factory O2 sensor.

The two data sets are very different. The only time that the GS-911 data gives any actual AFR information is during the short cold start interval, and during acceleration/deceleration, times when the ECU is open loop. And lambda sensor voltage is a very coarse indicator of AFR. Further, with the GS-911 you only get 1-2 samples per second.

The LC-2 reports actual AFR, every 12.5 mS (from memory), accurately from 10:1 to 22:1. And with an LC-2 you can shift lambda to richen your mixture.

I use both GS-911 and LC-2 but for very different purposes.

 

[Roger 04 RT]

Wayne, how does the GS-911's real-time values function for monitoring the factory O2 sensor compare with using the LC-2 for monitoring the O2?

HEX's website is confusing concerning what functionality can actually be performed with what user device. Anyone know how much of the functionality can be performed through an iPhone/iPad? Can I reset the service indicator? Can I monitor the real-time values? Are you required to get things up and running from a Windows PC first?

Although there are several functions of the GS-911 that require a Windows PC to be connected, realtime values can be logged to the flash memory inside the GS-911 wifi at about 1 sample per second. If you log all values to a PC, I've had rates up to 2.5 samples per second.

 

[WayneC]

The GS911 is limited in sample rate by the OBDII link speed as Roger indicates, the STD o2 sensor response time is not much faster anyway

 

[mag00]

Orded mine today from Twisted Throttle.

 

[mag00]

AAAGH, I checked my tracking, and it seems stalled out. I saw on the news about a fedex semi crashing in Nashville, I think my GS911 may have been on that truck AAAAGH

Last tracking was in Glade Springs VA at 1:05 am on the 5th.

 

[Roger 04 RT]

The GS911 is limited in sample rate by the OBDII link speed as Roger indicates, the STD o2 sensor response time is not much faster anyway

The GS-911 now reports three types of trim data for the BMW R1200: lambda control factors (short term) and multiplicative & additive trims (long term). Is there any trim data reported for the TR650?

 

[WayneC]

The GS-911 now reports three types of trim data for the BMW R1200: lambda control factors (short term) and multiplicative & additive trims (long term). Is there any trim data reported for the TR650?

Not at this stage, there may well be some development work on that but the Hella and Magnetti Marelli ECU's are used on a lower number of models so I would expect Hexcode to concentrate on rolling that type of data out for the Bosch first as the work could then be applied to so many more models

 

[Roger 04 RT]

Thanks Wayne, I asked about it because when/if that becomes available so many other fueling (non)enhancement questions get resolved.

 

[mag00]

Gonna hook it up tomorrow Happy camper here.


Hey Wayne, is that you on the boards at hexcode? Anyway thanks for all your work with hexcode to make this happen.

I had a little trouble getting it going, probably my netbook. It is the one I had issues with running the other bmw software.

I now own 3 bikes that can benefit from this tool, two on this screen and one r100rs.

I sent those plugs back. Vender said a bad batch made it out of the factory, they have had a couple others complain. Sure hope they get it sorted.

 

[WayneC]

Good to see you have the GS9111 there Mag00, not sure what you mean re "on the boards at Hexcode" but I said I would push it along, took a little longer than I would have hoped but we got there, more to come as well on dash and ABS diagnostics

Make sure you do the firmware updates on it and have a cup of coffee, dont get impatient with it when is says updated there is a second dialogue box which pops up later and I always wait for it to pop up

Re the Pulstars, yes suspected one plug was not firing,, that was the symptom you had and having discussed the Husky use of the Pulstar's with the Company founder I knew they would do the right thing

When you hook up the GS911, do it on both Husky's, do an autoscan, email the text which comes up to yourself as it will tell us the firmware version of each ECU, that data is important for everyone as it helps build the case that machines were sold without properly being updated prior to sale. If you can then email it to me I would appreciate it

 

[mag00]

This is the scan from the Strada, I have not hooked up to Terra yet. I cannot find a section or place to reset the service wrench indicator and cannot find any place that specifically resets adaptive memory or calibrates the tps etc. In other words it does not appear to get to the maintenance functions. Any ideas on how to get to these functions? Do I have to be connected to internet to use the other functions?

The fan does not come on until the engine temp is 220 or more degrees. Then it cuts off after cooling to 203. If the coolant in the radiator were colder than the engine temp, the thermostat would regulate the engine temp to a steady 103 degrees.

Anyway I am going back to the library to try another update. I remember a two stage update process the first time, but maybe not the second. I h



12.0V
GS-911wifi | AutoScan | Perform Basic AutoScan

AutoScan
Base System Version 0.246 - 0.137
Serial Number GS1 004 376
Date 2016-05-11 11:41:06
Bike Information
VIN ZKH0H12B3DV004109
Odometer 17857.2 mls
Factory I-Level KH24-12-08-500
Actual I-Level KH24-13-02-500
Distance to next service 0.0 mls
Service due date 01-01-2011
Motorcycle Date 02-01-2012

BMSE
Controller Name BMSE
Part No. 08532185
Hardware Index C1
Coding Index 00
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) 2012-09-06
MCV 0.6.4
FSV 20.30.0
OSV 2.3.1
Manufacturer Magneti Marelli
VIN ZKH0H12B3DV004109
Odometer 17857.2 mls
Factory I-Level KH24-12-08-500
Actual I-Level KH24-13-02-500
Fault Codes 2

10087 Oxygen sensor circuit malfunction
Currently present NO

10083 Malfunction of Coil 2 circuit <---pulstar did that
Currently present NO

ABS8M1
Controller Name ABS8M1
Part No. 08538816
Hardware Index D0
Coding Index 00
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) 2012-01-13
MCV 0.6.5
FSV 1.2.0
OSV 3.4.32
Manufacturer Bosch
VIN V004109
Variant H61 SM Street Motorad
Fault Codes 0
No Faults found

KOMBI18
Controller Name KOMBI18
Part No. 08543235
Hardware Index C0
Coding Index 03
Manufacturer MTA
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) 2012-09-17
MCV 0.6.4
FSV 1.5.0
OSV 3.3.10
Assembly No. 08543235
Fault Codes 0
No Faults found

 

[WayneC]

OK, that is old firmware (08532185) on the BMS-E so it needs updating, see my post in the recall thread on that subject

I take it you were using WiFi to talk to the bike?, that gives emergency (out on the road) functions plus real time logging as well as access to cloud maintenance

You could use the PC App or cloud for the maintenance functions such as service indicator reset and adaption resets, there is no TPS calibration as that is not needed on the 650, it continuously calibrates

We have an expert on using the cloud maintenance functions on Cafe Husky, Sussurf can guide you through it, I only watched while he tested it

The fan is set to come on at 102c it is the standard value used on all the BMW water cooled models

 

[mag00]

I figured it was not updated, because it acted like my Terra did before it got the update. I may hook up the Terra tomorrow and get some readings. But more than likely, going to take the Strada for a nice ride. Got it all lowered, and shined up.

I don't think I am using wifi, never configured it, and use the usb cable. I run a tether to my mac from cell phone (usb tether), and that is my internet. I tried updating today, but it seems the hex site was giving error 400.

So what I did is set up parallels with windows 7 on my mac. Got it all set up and seems to be working as far as connecting to the hex servers, and gs911, but have not plugged into the bike to see if the cloud comes up.

I assume that the maintenance and service functions do not work unless it is connected to the cloud. Hopefully I get things working.

I did some real time testing and was looking at the stepper motor and tps angle and percent.

 

[WayneC]

Tell me more re the Terra update, you had not previously mentioned that, I normally use WiFi unless I need to do more detailed tests, I forgot to let you know the Windows WiFi utility does not work with WInXP as it is no longer supported by M$ etc, I never use the utility anyway, comes with being in Telecoms/IT for so many years that I just dont need it

 

[mag00]

I much prefer cabling. My Terra stalled horribly in the early days, I went to the dealer and at the 600 mile service had the look into it. They installed the updates or something at that time. Fixed the stalling.

I dropped it once turning when it stalled when I tried to open throttle for the turn, and again, when I was turning left onto a faster road and nearly dropped it infront of oncoming traffic. It would stall in traffic taking off etc. All the classic problems.

 

[WayneC]

I much prefer cabling

Understand that the GS911 WiFi is 2 tools in one, when connected via cable it is a "pass thru" with the PC software providing the intelligence to do diagnostics

When connected via WiFi it is using inbuilt intelligence and for real time recording out on the road that is the inbuilt intelligence used

My Terra stalled horribly in the early days, I went to the dealer and at the 600 mile service had the look into it. They installed the updates or something at that time. Fixed the stalling.

Going to be interesting to see what the version numbers are on the Terra firmware then, approx what date was that update ?

 

[mag00]

Question then, in both modes do I need internet to get full functionality? In the list of things to choose, the last item, it thing "service" or something like that, there is a what appears to be a cloud in front of it in the menu and that option is not clickable for me. Is that where the major repair functions will be?

If not, I cannot find a selection to get anywhere to reset the service wrench, read an o2 graph or any of the things the website show being able to do. Also Hex website shows screens with different versions of their own platform. Is it that they just haven't updated their site?

I think I got my Terra in May of 13 became a member here in June, so right around June or July of 2013 and I think the original owner bought the Strada in Jul of 13. I was the first to get hooked up to moss for updates at my dealer, and don't know how many they did back then, not many it looks like LOL.