I have had it. (kickstand issue)

[Chi2]

Don't throw it off of a bridge, throw it at me. If you want to rid yourself of that pesky kickstand, I'll buy it off of you.

I am about to throw the kick stand from my 07 TE450 off a bridge into the river below. Hopefully I will never see this piece of crap again. One more thing. The stock fender is going with it. It will probably float to shore right where I park.

 

[Thorton98]

Are they still putting that auto-retract feature on the new bikes? If they are, they must have a few people who like 'em or a very stubborn designer.rofessor:

 

[silver_fox]

Silly off-road guys.
Real bikes don't have kick stands.

 

[ray_ray]

Wasn't it cool when the bike companies quite putting these useless devices on machines ... I'm sure they pumped enough sunshine to make everyone believe a stand was not needed ... we're so gullible each and every day

I was defending the free world in the us army when this 'update' happened so I actually missed it ... But when getting back into riding after a 20 year span off ... I said: Where did the kick stand go? lol ... Do this new fangled machines balance them selves?

 

[Coffee]

Are they still putting that auto-retract feature on the new bikes? If they are, they must have a few people who like 'em or a very stubborn designer.rofessor:

Unless something has changed they either need an auto retract kickstand or a kill switch when the clutch is let out when it is in gear and the kickstand is down... on every street bike.

I am not sure which countries require that, but there are probably a few.

 

[silver_fox]

Wasn't it cool when the bike companies quite putting these useless devices on machines ... I'm sure they pumped enough sunshine to make everyone believe a stand was not needed ... we're so gullible each and every day

I was defending the free world in the us army when this 'update' happened so I actually missed it ... But when getting back into riding after a 20 year span off ... I said: Where did the kick stand go? lol ... Do this new fangled machines balance them selves?

Lol.
Imagine..... you are in the air over a triple, and upon landing you unexplainably wipe out and only to have a dozen or so riders run you over.... and then it hits you "ahh, the friggen kick stand flopped down and dug in to the dirt, guess I should have been more gullible"

 

[ray_ray]

Lol.
Imagine..... you are in the air over a triple, and upon landing you unexplainably wipe out and only to have a dozen or so riders run you over.... and then it hits you "ahh, the friggen kick stand flopped down and dug in to the dirt, guess I should have been more gullible"

Imagine, next century someone invents a KS that works because the first ~100 years it has not been accomplished .... Maybe when you are tripling that giant rhythm section u like so much on UR TE450, the really cool KS designed by the top engineerS of the company is actually .... removable and your mechanic has removed it ... U not only don't eat sh*t over the triple, but you get on the podium ... Ain't that a cool story? ... We need engineers on this issue to make this story a reality !

Yep... I see UR point but my 76 CR 250 Husky had a KS ... It was a pure racer :0) I never had a problem with it ...but then I never do triples ... and I'm not sure too many are doing triples on TE model bikes ...

 

[Slowpoke]

Not sure about Europe/Asia, but Canada/US both require street legal bikes to be equipped with either auto-retract or an electrical safety switch.

 

[Dirtdame]

and I'm not sure too many are doing triples on TE model bikes ...

Plus, it's annoying to have a race style bike out on the trail and you have to lay it down because there's no trees, fence posts or rocks available to lean it up against. Been there, done that with some of my moto cross bikes.

 

[petem]

Plus, it's annoying to have a race style bike out on the trail and you have to lay it down because there's no trees, fence posts or rocks available to lean it up against. Been there, done that with some of my moto cross bikes.

Yup. What's worse, by now when we come to something like a gate we need to open if I start to get off to do it there are shouts of "no no, let me" as they know we'd be there five minutes while I try to find somewhere to stand the bike so it won't fall over! I suppose you could say it's a good thing as I never have to get off while everyone else takes a turn (their stands all work, even one on a vintage Husky funnily enough), but I'd like to do my share...

Still, I'm sure the stand on my new BMvarna will be fine so I guess I'll just live with it till September.

Not sure about Europe/Asia

I believe it is a requirement in the UK to have auto-retract or a switch, and most of our vehicle regulations seem to come from the unelected bodies at the EU nowadays so it probably applies to the other EU nations too.

 

[bike_pilot]

Plus, it's annoying to have a race style bike out on the trail and you have to lay it down because there's no trees, fence posts or rocks available to lean it up against. Been there, done that with some of my moto cross bikes.

Just ride in the Pacific NorthWet! Problem solved!
Seriously though I hate my '06 te250 kickstand! My bike is way to vertical! Never stable.

 

[Colo moto]

Been riding my 2008 TE 450 lately and everyday I hate that stand a little more. Can't put it down on the uphill side cuz it will fall over to the right, can't put it on the down hill side cuz it will fall over to the left. Either gotta point it uphill or find flat ground. ?

 

[Dirtdame]

Been riding my 2008 TE 450 lately and everyday I hate that stand a little more. Can't put it down on the uphill side cuz it will fall over to the right, can't put it on the down hill side cuz it will fall over to the left. Either gotta point it uphill or find flat ground. ?

Well crimanentlies! you can't hope that it will do everything unless you make it adjustable.

 

[HUSKYnXJnWI]

I think th 2009 TE stand is great! Its aluminum and seems to have the correct angles- it is auto retract and I don't have a problem with that at all- its almost as good as a DRZ kick stand and much better than a Ktm Stand- those are intracately mounted yet very fragile.
My buddy has an 08TE510 and its the piece of steel crap many of you talk about- too high on hard surface and very unstable on soft surface.

 

[rajobigguy]

On of the problems with kickstands is that they are designed for a bike with the factory suspension set to factory specs. Many of us change things to suit us as individuals better, for instance setting the sag different, lowering the suspension, different tires or even a change from TE to SM (or the other way around). I'm not really sure why Huskys seem to be less tolerant of these changes and or adjustments but there does seem to be more issue for us.
I changed mine from a TE to a SM and now my bike sits nearly verticle, that's understandable due to the shorter tires. I also thought that the kickstand is fairly flimsy considering that the bike is so tall that a lot of us mount it with the kickstand down for the extra support. Someone should make a custom kickstand kit that has most of the fab work already done so that the owner just has to cut it to the right lenght and affix a foot.
This is what I've been working on for my bike and I'm sure one of our more entrepeurnurial members could come up with a way to make something like this in a user friendly way.


This is the head piece and requires quite a bit of machineing to get the details right.

After being welded to the shaft this is how it looks, the shaft is .085" wall 316L stainless as is the headpiece.

Then the foot grab.

Just for kicks, I thoguht a Cafe Husky foot pad might be nice.

 

[HuskyT]

Sweet Roger. Sweet!

T

 

[jlk_250]

Here's a good thread on the side stand issues if you want to read up on it. Side stands are not a strong point about Huskys, to say the least.

http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4844&highlight=kick+stand+auto+retract

 

[Thorton98]

That is a work of art!! Nice job, RBG. Thanks for the clarification on the requirements for the safety issue, Dean.

 

[Doormandan]

You could always cut the stand apart and re-wled it how ever you want?

 

[langolier]

Not sure about Europe/Asia, but Canada/US both require street legal bikes to be equipped with either auto-retract or an electrical safety switch.

Ever do a left turn with the kickstand still down
I think it's one of those corperate lawyer occasions of protecting us from
ourselves which turns into a PITA.