250-500cc Is it true the 2011 WR300 will have elec start!!

[jsleeper]

thats about the only thing in this thread thats going to happen in 2011.

Sad but true.

JS

 

[Vinduro]

What a joke. Lets go back to Yamaha AT1 with estart.

 

[Vinduro]

Screw the e-start. These bikes need updated frame, suspension and lighter motors with adjustable power valves, long before they need e start.

 

[sean]

Thank god its just not me, i was nearly convincing myself id bought the wrong bike, for all the wrong reasons and needed a 4 stroke with efi, full light kit electric start noisey exhaust, battery under the seat,

so iv been to the garage to look at the wr250 she a little porky hear and there but i like curvy birds

Kick start rules, as its a piece of piss to kick off

 

[ScottyR]

No e-start for 2011. I heard a 6 speed tranny is a good possibility though.

 

[lookin4trails]

No e-start for 2011. I heard a 6 speed tranny is a good possibility though.

Which side will the chain be on ?

 

[sean]

No e-start for 2011. I heard a 6 speed tranny is a good possibility though.

Now thats is an improvement

 

[sean]

Which side will the chain be on ?

Is this a serious question?

Why is it when i go out on my bike the first thing some people moan at is what side the chain is on?? They look at me like iv broken into there houses and pissed on there dog, who cares as long as its got one

personally i don't think it matters, but then the ktm's are all on the other side so husqy must have it wrong eh... dam those highly skilled husqy engineers with all there measurement and calculations

Or does it matter?? can some one answer this one

 

[krieg]

Is this a serious question?

Why is it when i go out on my bike the first thing some people moan at is what side the chain is on?? They look at me like iv broken into there houses and pissed on there dog, who cares as long as its got one

personally i don't think it matters, but then the ktm's are all on the other side so husqy must have it wrong eh... dam those highly skilled husqy engineers with all there measurement and calculations

Or does it matter?? can some one answer this one

The whining stems from the fact that the drive sprocket being on the right forces the location of the kick start gearing and lever a bit higher and forward making it "harder" or "awkward" to kick. Truth is, once you're used to it, it's no big deal. You adapt.

 

[boisedave]

Is this a serious question?

Why is it when i go out on my bike the first thing some people moan at is what side the chain is on?? They look at me like iv broken into there houses and pissed on there dog, who cares as long as its got one

personally i don't think it matters, but then the ktm's are all on the other side so husqy must have it wrong eh... dam those highly skilled husqy engineers with all there measurement and calculations

Or does it matter?? can some one answer this one

+1 -- I don't get it either. Makes no difference to me in the slightest.

The 6 speed is certainly a step in the right direction. Although from what I understand, it slips right into the existing cases. My point being a 6 speed does not necessarily mean an updated frame/motor.

A couple of thoughts on the power valve and e-start [as I have a two stroke with both].

1. Power valve -- much is made of the adjustability of the valve to "tune" the power band. I've played with mine until I am blue in the face and can barely perceive any difference from one setting to the next. IMHO -- this is WAY overrated so long as the power valve works to provide a smooth transition from bottom to top. My last Husky [1986 250 WR] didn't have a power valve and I LOVED that motor.

2. E-start. I could take it or leave it. Its nice, but not a necessity.
Frankly, I'd rather save the $600 and get the stuff I need. The only real advantage I've seen is that in goofy situations starting the bike isn't a concern. Without it -- you might have to think about positioning, etc. for a half a second. With e-start, there is no half second. E-start and a rekluse also make dead engine starts a snap -- if that is your thing.

I'd like to see a REALLY light 200/250/300 two stroke stuffed into a new frame. Maybe case reed induction if that works. 6 speed of course. Juice clutch too. Everything else after this would be gravy. Keep the power valve and offer some adjustability if you like. Make e-start a kit.

Maybe 2012

 

[boisedave]

The whining stems from the fact that the drive sprocket being on the right forces the location of the kick start gearing and lever a bit higher and forward making it "harder" or "awkward" to kick. Truth is, once you're used to it, it's no big deal. You adapt.

Good point -- hadn't thought of that.

 

[lookin4trails]

Is this a serious question?

Yes.

Right side = High Probability of Parts Bin Engineering

Left side = High Probability of Brand New Motor, Frame, etc.

 

[sean]

The whining stems from the fact that the drive sprocket being on the right forces the location of the kick start gearing and lever a bit higher and forward making it "harder" or "awkward" to kick. Truth is, once you're used to it, it's no big deal. You adapt.

I totaly agree with you BUT as you said
'once you're used to it, it's no big deal'

so i stand by what i said, i dont get it

a new frame and motor SURLY doesn't depend on the movement of the chain, DOES IT!?

If this is the case i think husqy need some new men on the job, as my very good friend is a engineer, and iv seen machines worth millions, they can do any thing with metal, there amazing.

Pluss i love watching a ktm, or yz rider trying to kick my bike off then turning to me and having a good move of which i reply, poof
Ill admit my rm250 kicks much easer than my wr250 but you get used to something

So here we stand husqy

New frame
New lighter motor (put the chain where you like)
6 speed box
And a OPTIONAL electric start
Suspension

 

[Motosportz]

I'd like to see a REALLY light 200/250/300 two stroke stuffed into a new frame. Maybe case reed induction if that works. 6 speed of course. Juice clutch too. Everything else after this would be gravy. Keep the power valve and offer some adjustability if you like. Make e-start a kit.

exactly

 

[Motosportz]

new motor / flipping the chain means a new and lighter motor, works with current frame and swingarm, is standard across the board. I have no issue with the chain on the right side but this is a limitation and carry over from Cagiva days. Time to redesign, make lighter and better, stuff it in the latest generation frame and sell the crap out of them. optional E-start would be my preference.

 

[Sandgroper]

Alot of members have voted for a new frame, whats bad about the 2009 frame?
When I sat on her the first time the head angle seemed very upright compared to my TXC510 which is more MX style than enduro in my opinion.

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[Motosportz]

Alot of members have voted for a new frame, whats bad about the 2009 frame?
When I sat on her the first time the head angle seemed very upright compared to my TXC510 which is more MX style than enduro in my opinion.

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Is many pounds lighter and IMHO handles better. I have owned piles of huskys since 04 and this new frame amazes me with its turning and stability. I just LOVE it. When i saw the 09 WR125 had the new frame I called and got on the waiting list. Best handling bike I have ever ridden. I also prefer the ergonomics and seat over the 05-07 stuff the 2 strokes are based on.

 

[motosapiens]

My four stroke TE isn't that difficult to kickstart, but I like the magic button.

4stroke is a different animal. I think e-start is very useful on a 4stroke, and I would only consider a kick-only 4-stroke if it has a rekluse or similar 'stallproofing'.

OTOH, I prefer not to have estart on a 2stroke, and I bought my 08 200xcw and my 09wr300 largely because they don't have the extra expense and maintenance hassle of estart.

If someone makes an estarter for a 2stroke that is not an undependable short-lived piece of crap, I may change my mind, but I've observed plenty of issues with the ktm estarters, and I have better stuff to do than screw around maintaining and fixing something I don't want or need in the first place.

 

[Sandgroper]

Is many pounds lighter and IMHO handles better. I have owned piles of huskys since 04 and this new frame amazes me with its turning and stability. I just LOVE it. When i saw the 09 WR125 had the new frame I called and got on the waiting list. Best handling bike I have ever ridden. I also prefer the ergonomics and seat over the 05-07 stuff the 2 strokes are based on.

Do you mean the 09 WR300 frame is a masterpiece of engineering as well ?

 

[Flyin]

All the bike really needs is a six speed gearbox, Kehin carb, and a re-designed tank with more capacity carried lower.
If a new frame saves weight and improves handling that would be great too.
I think a CR300 would be a good option to have, to race MX in the now Open Class