• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

Keys

Baddrapp

Baddrapp

Husqvarna
AA Class
I ordered a key through the dealer. It took 3 months to get the key and it's the wrong key. I will take it back to the dealer. In the meantime I found a key without the transponder, just a blank key. I ordered it from keys4urride.com. It is a ZD24RDP for a 97+ BMW. I gave them the key code and they even cut the key. The key works if I hold the transponder key about 4" away. I could glue/rtv the transponder key on the inside of the fairing console and use the non transponder key for the bike.

I also ordered a transponder key from keynet.com. It is a Zadi Motorcycle Transponder Key Shell (JMA-TP00ZA-11.P). It comes uncut and not programed. I am having trouble finding anyone who will attempt to program/clone the key. I need to find a different source for a key other than the factory.
 
Here is how to do it. Do the airbox mod, the uni filter pod mod. Now that you have opened up the airbox, you have the perfect spot to relocate the ring antenna. Take your key and secure it to the ring antenna in the airbox and close it back up. It is safe, out of the way, and still a spare in the emergency.
 
drzcharlie said:
Ok, I have to plead ignorant. Does anyone have a picture of the ring antenna in its stock position?
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I think it is built into/around the ignition lock. I was going to try out a bmw ring antenna when I get the chance. If it works, I would still have the stock one as the spare.

The parts manual is not much help
 
A BMW ring antenna should work considering it is a BMW key. I don't think they strayed to far from their source to get the antenna ring. There is some stuff on youtube about how to make a bypass for the antenna ring.
 
mag00 said:
Here is how to do it. Do the airbox mod, the uni filter pod mod. Now that you have opened up the airbox, you have the perfect spot to relocate the ring antenna. Take your key and secure it to the ring antenna in the airbox and close it back up. It is safe, out of the way, and still a spare in the emergency.
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That doesn't bypass the EWS, it just moves the components from in sight to out of sight. The EWS is so integral to the ignition system of these bikes it would take some very low level ECU programming to disable it, if that was even possible. After the issues I had with EWS on my bike 12 months or so ago, when another customer at my local Husky shop presented his Nuda with EWS on the dash last week, the dealer rang me to ask what it was all about and what he should do.
 
There is a huge thread on the adv site with the BMW's. BMW has a service cable that extends the EWS ring to under the seat. BMW is selling the rings for 125 to 155 depending on where you look. From what I found on the internet that all the EWS rings are all the same. The ring is just an antenna and requires no special programing and no computer work. The 1200GS has had so many problems they recommend you carry an extra ring in case it goes bad.

You can cut the ties holding the wire loom extend the wire and plug in the extra ring. Hold the an extra key in the ring and start the bike. Once started you can remove the extra ring as the computer does not continually read the ring. I tried holding the transponder key next to the none chipped key and it works, the bike kept running with out the transponder key. The bike only needs the transponder for start up. The none transponder key cost me 14.89 including shipping and it included being cut. I supplied the key code number from the plastic Zadi key ring.

The thread started in 2007 and is still going strong. BMW had a recall for the BMW's for a long time and the new generation of ring is suppose to be better, but not full proof. I didn't read the whole thread it was over 3000 posts long.

I will try and track down the extended wire harness and see if it works for us. The wire harness extending a second EWS ring under the seat with the transponder key taped to the ring. I could use the none transponder key and have the stock transponder as the spare, just unplug the extender and plugin the original ring, start the bike with the key from under the seat.

I can't believe no one has found a way to bypass the programing in the computer.
 
I have done a little more research. One of the theories of why motorcycles are having trouble with EWS ring is with a car the ring is vertical and on a motorcycle the key is horizontal and the extra keys on the ring are beating on the EWS ring. It sounds logical.
 
Baddrapp said:
I have done a little more research. One of the theories of why motorcycles are having trouble with EWS ring is with a car the ring is vertical and on a motorcycle the key is horizontal and the extra keys on the ring are beating on the EWS ring. It sounds logical.
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My wife's 2008 BMW had a failed antenna ring. Luckily for her that happened in 2009 and they replaced it with the updated part (the 2009-on part is supposed to not have the issues that the 2004-2008 part had). Her symptoms were similar to other people I know who had the EWS fault on a BMW caused by the antenna ring. Without warning the bike no longer starts. Might happen while refuelling the bike at the petrol station or after the bike has been parked for days (as was the case with my wifes). She never carries any other keys on her bike keyring.

From memory (without scrolling back through many threads in here) I know there have been a number of people who have reported EWS faults on their Huskies, but I don't think any have been attributed to a faulty antenna ring (except for the Greg J. posted about damaging the wiring to the ring himself).
 
I got some keys from key4urride.com. Unfortunately on my bike, mounting the transponder key in the dash isn't going to work. It needs to be right next to the antenna ring or EWS flashes. Also tried the BMW dealer. No key blanks only cut keys.
 
Gibster said:
I got some keys from key4urride.com. Unfortunately on my bike, mounting the transponder key in the dash isn't going to work. It needs to be right next to the antenna ring or EWS flashes. Also tried the BMW dealer. No key blanks only cut keys.
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How about in the headlight housing. There is tons of space in there.
 
Gibster said:
Seems to need to be near center of the ring. Holding it against the front of the ignition switch, the EWS light comes on.
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Interesting. Mine is not so sensitive. Do you have any switches/ballasts that might be causing interference? Several owners have found that cheap LEDs cause interference, and HID ballasts will do the same.
 
RidingDonkeys said:
Interesting. Mine is not so sensitive. Do you have any switches/ballasts that might be causing interference? Several owners have found that cheap LEDs cause interference, and HID ballasts will do the same.
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No electrical accessories on the bike. Really bummed. Wanted to mount the chipped key in the headlight housing and not worry about loosing it.
 
If you look at are EWS rings, they snap on over the lock cylinder and the wire goes into the headlight housing. I was going to check on removing the EWS and placing in the headlight housing with the chipped key.
 
I have bought two spare keys off E Bay and the (American - keys4urride) supplier was able to identify my key number from a photo I included with the purchase. He also advised me that the chip (code series Zadi, new 80 bit chip) is available but can only be cloned by a dealer (in the UK neither BMW or KTM dealers will even discuss parts supply or information - they have been 'warned off'). As I have only one original key I have followed this thread with much interest but, as I am not gifted with vehicle electronics nouse and have fat fingers, am reluctant to start trying to relocate the antenna. So I asked keys4urride if he could help with locating the chip in the original key with the idea of 'liberating' it and bonding it next to the antenna, as he had already done this for a lady who had broken her key. He advises as follows: (carefully) cut the key following the moulding lines on the side until the chip, in it's container, is exposed. Remove and bond into the key housing. This should eliminate the fault code? And we still have the original key where, if all else fails, we can put the chip back in and re-seal the key.
I must say the help I have received from keys4urride and other American suppliers of parts and shop manuals has been absolutely outstanding and I am very grateful as in the UK we Strada/Nuda riders are right out in the wilderness.
Regards
Rob
 
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