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Knobbies on SM wheels?
- Thread starter cogitate
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Not sure what she had on the back, but pretty sure she was running a Pirelli MT21 120/90X17 up front.
cogitate;116233 said:Anyone know? Or maybe someone can find me that post? I've been trying and trying and I can't find it...
Was it this post?
Yes, I've experimented with a TKC80 and a Metzeler Karoo on the rear, but I went with the 120/90-17 Pirelli MT21 on the front. It worked well, but it was a little wide for my taste. I've also run Pirelli MT60's and they are grrreat on pavement and dry hardpack and gravel roads. An extra added bonus is they work fantastic on wet pavement...almost as good as a full-on rain tire! Not so great in the mud, though
They're very sticky, almost like a trials tire and they work great in rocks and creek crossings, but they disappear quickly and they're expensive. They're a good option if you don't like to change tires all the time, though. I ran Cheng Shin 755's (full-on knobbies) last time I rode it in the dirt and they were the absolute bomb! They worked fantastic in the excellent conditions we were riding in and the front tire gave me a more normal feel than the MT21. They were also much cheaper than any other tire I've ever run at $86 for the set 
I'm sold on them for dirt use.
WoodsChick
I think I'm gonna give this knobby (Cheng Shin 755) that WoodsChick is recommending a try. We rode the Cross Country Cycles - NJ Pine Barrens 300 this past weekend which has lots of deep sand, mud, puddles and I was on a 2010 SM 510 with Avon Distanzas. I actually didn't even pass the tech inspection because the Guide Tour said he needed everyone on full DOT knobbies or he'd be picking them up off the ground all day. We wound up having a blast and getting through sand, mud, puddles much better than most of the guys on full knobbies, but this was probably 30% due to the excellent Avon Distanzas and 70% due to the fact the Husky 510 is so light and powerful you could pretty much aim it and go and you just blasted through. I wouldn't say we had the best traction but I can say we had as much fun as anyone else. And given there were some street segments it was really fun to be on a supermoto.
For the next off road ride I'm gonna try something like this Cheng Shin 755. Can't beat the price. Anyone know the best place to buy a second set of SM 510 stock wheels / hub / rotors so I can make the swap as easy as possible?
For the next off road ride I'm gonna try something like this Cheng Shin 755. Can't beat the price. Anyone know the best place to buy a second set of SM 510 stock wheels / hub / rotors so I can make the swap as easy as possible?
Sorry for the delay in responding, SilverTT; I didn't see this post for some reason!
I don't know what size rim is on the 510, but I've got a 3.5" front and a 4.25" rear on my 610. I used a 4.60 Cheng Shin on the front and a 5.30 on the rear and they worked really well.
Good luck finding 755's here in the states. Cheng Shin says they no longer import DOT tires to the US, and for some reason the 755's, which are full-on non-DOT knobs, got caught up in that.
I've been looking for a set of them here in the US for over a year with no luck. I'm moving on to Canada right at the moment
Also, if you're buying a 2nd set of wheels and are planning on riding in the dirt, I would strongly suggest spending your money on a 18/21 dirt set. The selection of true dirt-worthy tires in fatty 17" sizes definitely leaves something to be desired. I know that's where my money would go.
Thanks WoodsChick. Appreciate the advice.
The SM510 also has a 3.5" front and a 4.25" rear so looks like that solution would work, but I guess I can't find them if you can't find them. Motorcycle-Superstore.com lists the tire on its website but says they are out of inventory, and from what you are saying sounds like they won't be getting in anytime soon. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.co...-C755-Off-Road-Rear-Tire.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch
As for the 21/18 configuration I have heard from many that is the way to go as well if you want a real dirt setup, but then just as many people will tell you how much of a nightmare it is to fit a 21/18 config to an SM510. Basically requires a full second set of rims, hubs, forks, rotors, calipers, and obviously tires. At the cost of that you are better off just buying a used TE 510 and having two toys - and then you don't even need to do the swap everytime you want to ride dirt. Would you agree with that?
I don't mind having another bike, in fact I'd love to have a TE 510 as well....I was just looking to exhaust any possibility of mounting a real knobby on the 17" front SM wheel since the Avon Distanzas I am running I completely love in anything but real deep sand/mud and in those situations I would just swap out the front tire. We ran the NJ Pine Barrens 300 this past weekend with the Distanzas and despite wet conditions and tons of sand I was amazed at how well the Distanzas hooked up. And on the street they feel even better than stock SM rubber.
The SM510 also has a 3.5" front and a 4.25" rear so looks like that solution would work, but I guess I can't find them if you can't find them. Motorcycle-Superstore.com lists the tire on its website but says they are out of inventory, and from what you are saying sounds like they won't be getting in anytime soon. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.co...-C755-Off-Road-Rear-Tire.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch
As for the 21/18 configuration I have heard from many that is the way to go as well if you want a real dirt setup, but then just as many people will tell you how much of a nightmare it is to fit a 21/18 config to an SM510. Basically requires a full second set of rims, hubs, forks, rotors, calipers, and obviously tires. At the cost of that you are better off just buying a used TE 510 and having two toys - and then you don't even need to do the swap everytime you want to ride dirt. Would you agree with that?
I don't mind having another bike, in fact I'd love to have a TE 510 as well....I was just looking to exhaust any possibility of mounting a real knobby on the 17" front SM wheel since the Avon Distanzas I am running I completely love in anything but real deep sand/mud and in those situations I would just swap out the front tire. We ran the NJ Pine Barrens 300 this past weekend with the Distanzas and despite wet conditions and tons of sand I was amazed at how well the Distanzas hooked up. And on the street they feel even better than stock SM rubber.
Any suggestions for going the other way? I'm wanting to put some street tires on my te510Was it this post?
Yes, I've experimented with a TKC80 and a Metzeler Karoo on the rear, but I went with the 120/90-17 Pirelli MT21 on the front. It worked well, but it was a little wide for my taste. I've also run Pirelli MT60's and they are grrreat on pavement and dry hardpack and gravel roads. An extra added bonus is they work fantastic on wet pavement...almost as good as a full-on rain tire! Not so great in the mud, though
WoodsChick
Pirelli Scorpions work surprisingly well on pavement
gixxer188
Husqvarna
A Class
I have found the 755's 4.60 & 5.30 on eBay as well as a dealer out of Iowa and one in Louisiana. Tucker Rocky on the other hand says they are out of stock until October.
Good luck finding 755's here in the states. Cheng Shin says they no longer import DOT tires to the US, and for some reason the 755's, which are full-on non-DOT knobs, got caught up in that.
I've been looking for a set of them here in the US for over a year with no luck. I'm moving on to Canada right at the moment
Take a look at the Shinko 700 or 705
Ebay! Who'da thunk?! I never even considered Ebay! Boy, do I feel like a bozo 
Would you mind giving me some info on the dealers in Iowa and Louisiana? And have you actually gotten any of the 755's from them?
Thanks for the heads-up!
gixxer188
Husqvarna
A Class
Cedar Rapids Tire out of Cedar Rapids, IA I just bought a set off their eBay store and then I found their website and saw that the tires were priced cheaper on their site than on eBay. CRT never came up in any search results and I didn't know who I was buying them from on eBay until after I had paid for them. Anyway, shipping to me was next day and Joe the owner responds to most all of the eBay store emails. The other two places in IN and LA were advertising the tires but they don't actually have them in stock.
Would you mind giving me some info on the dealers in Iowa and Louisiana? And have you actually gotten any of the 755's from them?
Thanks for the heads-up!
http://www.cedarrapidstire.com/category/8730/cheng-shin-c755-motorcycle-tires
eBay: yotejoe
Thanks for the info, Gixxer
I checked the CRT site and 
Still, it's hard to find good knobbies in these sizes and if that's what I gotta do, well...that's what I gotta do 
It's still cheaper than one Pirelli MT60 
Maybe I'll call CRT tomorrow. Thanks again!EDIT: Nevermind...I'm an idiot...I saw the ones I was looking for on their site and you're right...they are cheaper there!
Well, I might be an idiot...but I'll soon be an idiot with 2 lemony-fresh sets of 17" knobbies 
Thanks, Gixxer188! I owe you one
(I have a Gixxer, too...an `89 750. My buddy bought it new in `89 and his mom gave it to me after he passed away in `92)
Thanks, Gixxer188! I owe you one
(I have a Gixxer, too...an `89 750. My buddy bought it new in `89 and his mom gave it to me after he passed away in `92)
Mmm...I don't know. I just buttoned up the garage and it's a major pain to drag all the bikes out again. I'll measure the knobbies and the Pirelli Diablos tomorrow and let you know.
I do know that I am tippy-toe on the street rubber and it's noticeably taller on the knobs. It ain't easy being 5'1"...