Motosportz 09 WR125's available now and at a SMOKING price....

[krieg]

I probably already know what Krieg will purchase next (just kidding Krieg, count to 10 before replying).

6...7...8...9...10. I bought a seat. You GO Kelly! It's all good Tim. Nothing personal intended. Although I do disagree (strongly). But's that's OK too.

 

[boisedave]

I guess I have to join the "A" for @$$hole team here.....

While I know Kelly's devotion to the brand and appreciate what he has done and will do for Husky. The idea of selling a "tweaked" bike, ready to go is a good one.

Unfortunately it appears that he and his dealer have stepped inadvertentley over a line. That line is... The Husky Dealer Agreement which exists to protect Husky US and its dealers. I've never seen it, but I'm pretty sure it has a clause about... "Dealers cannot broker bikes through second parties." This situation can be over come by the authorized dealer involved, selling the bikes as a "Motosportz Special Editions" through the dealership, as oppossed to Kelly and Motosportz selling them directly.

You can laugh at laws, but no one can take them lightly.....

IMHO -- this is not a question of "laws" but of contract language. Big difference. Frankly, this is semantics. I am assuming that Kelly. in talking with Husky corporate, got this squared away with them. Therefore, there aren't any contractual issues to be resolved [a "waiver" if you will].

I also think its short sighted -- these are left over bikes in small quantities. The punitive nature of the dealer reactions is troubling, particularly when they threaten. Their beef is not with Motosportz -- its with Husky corporate. Just my opinion.

To the extent that Husky corporate is reading -- I didn't buy a Husky last time around [January 2009] because of lingering issues involving the resurgence of the brand and lack availability of the bikes and parts [aftermarket as well]. Also, there didn't seem to be anywhere to go to "fix" issues. As that is changing, my preference is to buy a Husky next time around [i.e. the "new" redesigned 300 - please?]. My inclination to go Husky is near totally do to the information available in this forum -- my comfort level about Husky is now better -- I can feel good about a purchase because I have friends and help [in addition to a fine dealer in Boise]. Take all of this away and I buy a pumpkin again. Just FYI.

IMHO -- this backlash is BS and something should be done to fix it. Tell what dealers object so I won't spend my money there.

 

[skaterportland]

One purchase of a Husqvarna WR125 because of Kelly's devotion to making it a perfect single track bike. Bought it from a local dealer and have upgraded parts from Kelly...

I probably would have gone orange if it wasn't for Kelly and cafehusky.com... I am glad i went Husky!

 

[motosportz mike]

Tim, if it makes you feel better the bikes will be sold thru a dealership.

 

[Norman Foley]

IMHO -- this is not a question of "laws" but of contract language. Big difference. Frankly, this is semantics. I am assuming that Kelly. in talking with Husky corporate, got this squared away with them. Therefore, there aren't any contractual issues to be resolved [a "waiver" if you will].

I also think its short sighted -- these are left over bikes in small quantities. The punitive nature of the dealer reactions is troubling, particularly when they threaten. Their beef is not with Motosportz -- its with Husky corporate. Just my opinion.

To the extent that Husky corporate is reading -- I didn't buy a Husky last time around [January 2009] because of lingering issues involving the resurgence of the brand and lack availability of the bikes and parts [aftermarket as well]. Also, there didn't seem to be anywhere to go to "fix" issues. As that is changing, my preference is to buy a Husky next time around [i.e. the "new" redesigned 300 - please?]. My inclination to go Husky is near totally do to the information available in this forum -- my comfort level about Husky is now better -- I can feel good about a purchase because I have friends and help [in addition to a fine dealer in Boise]. Take all of this away and I buy a pumpkin again. Just FYI.

IMHO -- this backlash is BS and something should be done to fix it. Tell what dealers object so I won't spend my money there.

I just used the term "laws" in response to this quote..... Oh for cripes sake... Let's call in the Obama administration to make sure everything is "legal" and no one is "harmed" by this obviously over-the-top capitalist venture which has certainly been designed to undermine the very foundation on which Husqvarna's US operations are built!

Maybe a poor choice of words, but laws, rules and legal all run together somewhat.

 

[boisedave]

I just used the term "laws" in response to this quote..... Oh for cripes sake... Let's call in the Obama administration to make sure everything is "legal" and no one is "harmed" by this obviously over-the-top capitalist venture which has certainly been designed to undermine the very foundation on which Husqvarna's US operations are built!

Maybe a poor choice of words, but laws, rules and legal all run together somewhat.

No worries. You're right though -- they all run together. I just think that the beef runs up to Husky not with Motosportz is all. Think about Service Honda or Christini -- they are doing something similar [on a much larger scale]. I just have to think there is a way to go about this that wouldn't cause such a backlash.

 

[raisrx251]

Think about Service Honda or Christini -- they are doing something similar [on a much larger scale]. I just have to think there is a way to go about this that wouldn't cause such a backlash.

I agree with this statement 100%

 

[krieg]

Tim, if it makes you feel better the bikes will be sold thru a dealership.

THERE! Now can't we all just hug and throw a few cold ones down together?

 

[Norman Foley]

THERE! Now can't we all just hug and throw a few cold ones down together?

You're all invited to the North East Husky Gathering for a beer and a hug!

 

[krieg]

I'd love to be able to come up there. Alas, with all the other stuff going on in my life right now, it's impossible. Besides, in my case, there would be more than one beer involved and I tend to hug indiscriminately after a few cold ones... You guys are better off without me!

 

[Dirtdame]

I'd love to be able to come up there. Alas, with all the other stuff going on in my life right now, it's impossible. Besides, in my case, there would be more than one beer involved and I tend to hug indiscriminately after a few cold ones... You guys are better off without me!

Nothing wrong with indiscriminately hugging people....now licking is a different story.

 

[Rick]

Speaking of Service Honda, and selling Honda's.....I read that they can't use the "CR" in the discreption of the bike, that is why the term "AF" is used. Would the same apply to what Kelly is doing....just thinking out loud.

This is a very interesting thread.
Thanks

 

[Wetdog]

here's some barley induced random thoughts after an evening of playoff hockey Vancouver 7 LA Kings 2.

The bikes are being sold through a Husky dealer so what's the big deal. If the dealer and Kelly partner up to offer a great deal at $4K isn't everyone happy? I'm sure the dealers not taking a loss, Kelly might make a few bucks, (although it's clear his real motivation is getting Husky's on the trail) sell some Motosportz accessories and Husqvarna has cleared some non current bikes out of the inventory. Win win win and a big win for the guy who gets a new bike for $4K.

How come none of these "legitimate dealers" are offering the left over 125's? I'm assuming they were given the same opportunity to purchase non current 125's. Husqvarna should be gratefull that Kelly and his dealer see the value of the little 125 as it's their brand loyalty that will move bikes. I'd drive 10 hours to avoid the dealer that says "sure, I think I can get you a little 125 but you should buy this 450 right here". I'd bet my local BMW, Yamaha and newly formed Husky dealer wouldn't want them and half the sales staff probably wouldn't even know there's a 125 in the Husky lineup let alone know what it takes to get it running 100%. But why would they be juiced when they have $12K bmw's on the floor that come with a $795 freight and pdi fee. Those sales pay the bills.
The future of Husky requires enthusiasm not a dealer network that over promises and under delivers.

 

[letitsnow]

If I weren't able to buy parts from Kelly to keep my Husky's running, I'd be racing Kawasakis.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Husqvarna125]

If the market accepts the idea it will take off regardless of whether it happens here or somewhere else. The idea of a low cost entry level motocycle that is setup when purchased is hard to argue with during these economic times. With any change there is always opposition, but where would be if we always did things the same way and not challenge the status quo. I applaud Kelly for stepping out on ledge as difficult as it is. As we are seeing in some of the racing organizations, this industry needs to make some big/radical changes if it wants to grow and flourish.

Where's the new outside the box ideas thread? Now that would be a great one to discuss!

 

[Motosportz]

Tim (raisrx251), you seem to be driving this so I will respond to you...

1. For the third time, these are though a dealer, done completely legal. I have said this several times. I don't see how there would be any other way this can happen. I would not do it without, it would not be right, and near imposable to accomplish. Got it?

2. Your complaining completely about semantics. Wetdog is 100% right on with his post. Sure i can put a sticker on them saying Motosportz via husky dealer. Or set them on the dealership floor. If we do this that was the intent.

3. I came up with this idea many months ago because I LOVE these bikes and thought it would be cool. Ran it by a dealer and he wanted to think about it. When the non-currents came available we thought this would be perfect timing to make some deals, offer a cool setup and help husky move some bikes. Through a dealer, all within the means of any agreements.

4. This bikes are being sold with a reasonable markup, more than typical for some dealers who mark them up $200 and in many peoples / dealers mind do a disservice to husky and undervalue them. We don't like that ether nor are we doing that.

Glass houses. I'll not mention the dealer you get your bikes from (Tim) but if you want to be honest many unfavorable selling practices (eBay and blowouts) seem the norm there (08 CR125 for $2,999.00). I find it funny your the first to post objection when I know for a fact your dealer seems to be not on favorable terms with a lot of dealers because of underselling practices that cheapen the brand. I'm not trying to start a pissing match here but I feel this might be more of a dealer who just wants to grab a few of those bikes and blow them out with little support. How is this better than what we are proposing? Top dealers and the better shops stand on their own merits and this will not effect them at all. It's a few non current bikes.

All that said do I come on here and call out dealers that post +$200 deals on blowouts. Absolutely not, if thats within their means and agreement have at it. Do i like it? No. But I'm sure not going to jump on the internet and call them all out. It's great for the customer but not great for the brand holding a value. We don't do that.

5. This is on a very limited number of close out 09 bikes that no one else seems to be making an effort to move. Many dealers will not even stock 125's. My dealer did, promotes the brand heavily and works hard for husky, has for MANY years. Now that there are a few non current bikes a few shops want to grab one and blow it out only thinking of making a quick buck on a bike they typically would not stock, don't care about and have no desire in. I feel what we want to do is completely the opposite, set these bikes up right, exploit the bikes to their full potential, and hand the customer a excellent husky experience instead of a frustrating bike with a bog that many dealers know nothing about nor care to resolve. Many dealers know and love the bikes and will have no issue with this. I feel it is the ones who want these discounted bikes to blow out instantly and pocket $300.

So for the forth time, these are sold through a husky dealer. This is all being done above board. If it needs to sit on the dealer floor to make this happen thats 100% completely fine with me. We are not trying to shaft anyone. It's freaking ridiculous because quite the opposite is true, we want to further the brand through good husky experiences.

Kelly

 

[Motosportz]

To say that you are entitled to make some money on selling a few bikes...

never said that, don't feel that way. I know many have done tons for huskys for many years before i even through a leg over one. I feel no entitlement whatsoever, you are saying this not me.

Honestly it is none of my business as I am simply a customer and I was just trying to explain to you that I think it is stepping over the line.

Then why do you post paragraphs of things when you know nothing about my situation or agreements?

Most of them don't sleep well knowing what needs to be sold and what they owe, who is stealing from them, the list goes on. Oh yeah and work 6 days a week and how everyone comes in while lunch/dinner is served.

Welcome to my world. And we are "stealing" from no one.

To say that you should be rewarded for this by selling bikes I do not get.

I never said that. Nor do i feel that way. You were basically saying i was stealing from dealers (even though you know NOTHING about this situation) and doing husky a disservice. I was simply pointing out I feel directly or indirectly responsible for MANY sales for husky, as are many of us and do not feel i am the downfall of husky as you seem to think this is

If you do a magazine article is it not going to have Motosportz accessories on it? So isn't this going to drive customers your way as well to Husky?

Sure it is, whats you point?

You can gather all the names of referrals you want but the truth of it all is there would not have been any Husky's around when you discovered this brand if it weren't for the dealers.

As if i don't know that and promote all the husky dealers i feel are doing a great job. Sent many a customer that way. I don't know where you get the idea i feel i invented husky, am at all central to it's existence or have a huge background in husky history. You sure did not get that from me. I understand I am the new kid, just doing what I can in the time I have been doing it, nothing more. You keep posting like I feel some entitlement, I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT. I'm a little shop scratching out an exsistance and doing it for the brand I love. Nothing more and feel entitled to nothing I did not earn. I totally appreciate those that were there before me and have paved the road, make no mistake about that. In fact the dealer I deal with is exactly that kind of dealer which is why I associate with them. Please stop referring that I feel I am entitled to anything, I 100% know that is not that case nor have I ever felt that way. I'm offended by this.

Hope that clears some stuff up.

 

[Coffee]

No doubt you have done much for Husqvarna Kelly.

Assuming you are taking physical possession of the bikes, setting them up, putting goodies on them, etc.... From my perspective, if I were doing that, I would most probably do something like this and not even mention the base price:

A select number of professionally set up WR125s are available! Here is a typical configuration, please email ___@____.com for your custom bike!:
___________
___________
___________
___________
___________
___________
___________
___________ shipping

A value of $____, your price $____,a %___ savings!
* Please note you are responsible for local tax and registration, MSO will be provided.


But that is just me. No need to compete on price, what you are doing has added value. It especially has value if you intend to test ride the bikes to ensure they perform as they should, get the proper oil in (whatever that is), etc. Those types of things would give people some assurance the bikes were operating correctly.

When I bought mine I had no idea how it was supposed to perform and hung out on TT trying to glean some insight, and try to meet up with people on trails, and try to get them to ride my bike to get their opinion on how the bike ran. That is why I asked you to ride my bike when we met in OR years ago, and why I had some people (including WoodsChick) ride my bike about a month ago.

Those types of things have tremendous value especially to people new to the brand or even new to 2st, and would increase the perspective customer base.

 

[Norman Foley]

Kelly,
It would have seemed a lot clearer, if Motosportz and your dealer connection had made a joint announcement on this venture. The dealer probably should have taken the lead and there would be none of the controversy that has been generated.

The dealers take the aggreement very seriously, on who can sell new bikes and OEM parts. Husky has asked the dealers to step up their commitment considerably in this last model year. In this tight economy, dealers might be a little more concerned about what might be perceived as... "Operating out of the box". Motosportz; a Husky aftermarket supplier, selling new Huskys, just didn't look right to Husky dealers as first presented.

All of us want Husky and all people connected to the brand to succeed!
Norman

 

[Poopy]

This could also have been settled by private messages for the couple of people who were worried about it.