New 610Te or new 630Te

[Blazes]

Have just sourced a brand new 610Te still in the crate at a dealer ----i myself have one of the last Te 610's that was brought into South Africa--my question is ---would you buy a 2nd Te610 instead of a new 630Te.
The thing is the 610Te will cost me a fraction of the cost to put the power up kit on and i just luuuuuuuuv my 610Te --it now has over 16,000km's on and still pulling like a mule--I have been hesitating with the 630Te as i am not yet 100% convinced and i don't need anthing faster ----or heavier. Difference in price will be about R 23,000.00. That is about 3,000 US Dollars. Any input --

 

[Muddy Waters]

From what I read it’s not heavier if you change the dual exhausts back to a single one
Of course that would cost you another grand (I think, maybe it’s a bit less ?)
And then what you’ll end up with is the same bike....only much stronger

The big ticket items on the 630 are;
24cc more then the 610 with presumably better way of channeling that power to the ground
Hydraulic clutch
And a better seat

I have no doubt that this bike is “more“.....the question is do you want (or need ) more

 

[Blazes]

From what I read it’s not heavier if you change the dual exhausts back to a single one
Of course that would cost you another grand (I think, maybe it’s a bit less ?)
And then what you’ll end up with is the same bike....only much stronger

The big ticket items on the 630 are;
24cc more then the 610 with presumably better way of channeling that power to the ground
Hydraulic clutch
And a better seat

I have no doubt that this bike is “more“.....the question is do you want (or need ) more

What you say is true Muddy --problem is --i dont think i need more than i have at the moment ---I 24cc for a extra R23k does not make sense to my budget at all R 23k is my whole years riding in Sa and over the borders as well as spares and fuel---

Man this is a tough one for me

 

[HuskyBrutha]

Well now, lets see.....

The next 5 years is a good time frame to look at because:
(1) I doubt KTM, Honda or Kawa etc will do anything in the DS 600cc range in the next 3+ years especially while the Global Financial situation is expected to take at least that long to clear up.
(2) It will be about 4+ years before the current TE630 is replaced with a new model and one normally avoids the first 6 months production anyway while the bike gets sorted. Also, given the current pace of innovation at Husqvarna, the replacement for the TE630 will very likely be a bike that we would all want.

(3) So we are left with Husky providing wheels for the next 5 years.

Now with you clocking +/- 8000 km's a year (as I understand it) your current bike will need to take you to 16+40 = 56000 km on the ODO, something quite possible for a Husky particulary with regular upkeep.

So maybe all you need is your current 610 and save your money, especially since the 630 doesnt really offer you more than you already have.
If you follow this option and all goes well, it costs you nothing and you get to keep your options open.
However if this option goes South, then, under the above assumptions, you will land up having to buy a 630 at tomorrows prices

If the 630 is of little interest to you / offers you very little ( I must say the low beam headlamp is stellar for night riding) then you may as well think 610 and pocket the change.

However 5 years is a long time, maybe you do much more mileage than 8k a year or the 610 gets crashed and so for whatever reason you land up needing a spare rig in the future. Under this scenario, buying the 610 now is a good hedge because (1) 610's will not be around indefinitley and (2) 610's will never be any cheaper than they are now. Another advantage of two 610's vs 610 + 630 is the perfect interchangability of parts ensuring that you will have wheels for 5++ years.

Summary
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If you are willing to bet that your current bike will last 5 years and that you would rather save your money now and take a chance against having to buy a more expensive 630 in the future, then do nothing now and maybe have to fork our money later, maybe.
IF you want absolute certainty that you will always have a 610 for the next 5 years and you want to lock down your costs now for the next five years, then buy another 610 tomorrow.

 

[Runner]

Just curious, how much more is the KTM 690 Enduro? It is a better bike (sorry guys)

 

[glangston]

TE 610 no doubt.

It's been proven and with the SOHC is a bit more mellow. I'm still trying to get one by the wife. My dealer has 2 09's and I'd get one today if we hadn't bought a second home in the last few months.

 

[LRPct]

Just curious, how much more is the KTM 690 Enduro? It is a better bike (sorry guys)

Seriously..??
With it's seriously tight gearbox...I rode BOTH a bunch before buying.. The gearbox made it useless for what I ride compared to the 610. Not to mention there seem to be ALOT more pump problems with the KTM FI than the Husky. Nevermind it's ugly as s&$#... I think you bumped your head and wandered into the wrong URL... That's also an awful bold statement and advice for someone that seems to be just starting to learn how to ride at a basic level.

 

[glangston]

Just curious, how much more is the KTM 690 Enduro? It is a better bike (sorry guys)

It's $2500 ($10,500 v. $8000) more at list.....so it's about 25% more. Then, if it's not available at the kind of discount the 09 Husky TE 610 is then it's even more expensive, ...relatively. At what point do you say the TE is the better deal. Guess you'd have to ride them and then pay for one or the other to find out.

 

[Blazes]

Well now, lets see.....

The next 5 years is a good time frame to look at because:
(1) I doubt KTM, Honda or Kawa etc will do anything in the DS 600cc range in the next 3+ years especially while the Global Financial situation is expected to take at least that long to clear up.
(2) It will be about 4+ years before the current TE630 is replaced with a new model and one normally avoids the first 6 months production anyway while the bike gets sorted. Also, given the current pace of innovation at Husqvarna, the replacement for the TE630 will very likely be a bike that we would all want.

(3) So we are left with Husky providing wheels for the next 5 years.

Now with you clocking +/- 8000 km's a year (as I understand it) your current bike will need to take you to 16+40 = 56000 km on the ODO, something quite possible for a Husky particulary with regular upkeep.

So maybe all you need is your current 610 and save your money, especially since the 630 doesnt really offer you more than you already have.
If you follow this option and all goes well, it costs you nothing and you get to keep your options open.
However if this option goes South, then, under the above assumptions, you will land up having to buy a 630 at tomorrows prices

If the 630 is of little interest to you / offers you very little ( I must say the low beam headlamp is stellar for night riding) then you may as well think 610 and pocket the change.

However 5 years is a long time, maybe you do much more mileage than 8k a year or the 610 gets crashed and so for whatever reason you land up needing a spare rig in the future. Under this scenario, buying the 610 now is a good hedge because (1) 610's will not be around indefinitley and (2) 610's will never be any cheaper than they are now. Another advantage of two 610's vs 610 + 630 is the perfect interchangability of parts ensuring that you will have wheels for 5++ years.

Summary
-------
If you are willing to bet that your current bike will last 5 years and that you would rather save your money now and take a chance against having to buy a more expensive 630 in the future, then do nothing now and maybe have to fork our money later, maybe.
IF you want absolute certainty that you will always have a 610 for the next 5 years and you want to lock down your costs now for the next five years, then buy another 610 tomorrow.

Wisdom --wise words Gives me a better insight as to what i need --Thank's

 

[Blazes]

Just curious, how much more is the KTM 690 Enduro? It is a better bike (sorry guys)

The 690 R is a few rand more --BUT - i had one for a while and --Not my kind of bike at all--here in SA we have seen many of them go up for sale with less than 3,000km on them --as for the 610Te --you can not pick one up secondhand at all --Spares on the KTM are also nearly double the price of the Husky here---

 

[Blazes]

TE 610 no doubt.

It's been proven and with the SOHC is a bit more mellow. I'm still trying to get one by the wife. My dealer has 2 09's and I'd get one today if we hadn't bought a second home in the last few months.

Mt thoughts excactly --even if i keep my present bike and ride it till it can no more --i am sure i could re-build or just keep her for spares --

 

[XLEnduroMan]

I have no experience with the sohc 610, but have read that valve maintenance isn't as easy as on the dohc models. The 630 has the same style top end as my 510 and the valve check/adjustments on it are super easy to do. I think the 630 has ~56hp while the 610 has maybe 10hp less. I like the idea of the dual exhaust for less noise but of course not the weight.

I would pick the 630 for the new tech, more power, and the possible quieter ride.

 

[Blazes]

I have no experience with the sohc 610, but have read that valve maintenance isn't as easy as on the dohc models. The 630 has the same style top end as my 510 and the valve check/adjustments on it are super easy to do. I think the 630 has ~56hp while the 610 has maybe 10hp less. I like the idea of the dual exhaust for less noise but of course not the weight.

I would pick the 630 for the new tech, more power, and the possible quieter ride.

I do not need more HP--My 450 TE has more than i need. To me Horsepower is useless if i cant use it or get it onto the gravel and get it to hook up -- BTW --I love the Arrow and the noise i have on my 610 -hehe

 

[HuskyBrutha]

.........., given the current pace of innovation at Husqvarna, the replacement for the TE630 will very likely be a bike that we would all want...........

On da udda hand doc, given BMW's penchant for big adventure bikes there is the chance that the replacement for the 630 could be something that we would not want, eg an 800cc porker - Heaven forbid.

And seeing as you like 610 so much, investing in more 610 now could be a hedge against a porker of a 630 replacement and guarantee you 610 wheels for a good 10 years at known cost today.

However, if you like and want the 630 replacement in 5+ years, you should get reasonable Tom when you sell some 610 then.

 

[Gazzafish]

I am about to buy a new 630 so my opinion is probably biased but if you did buy a second 610, it would make problem diagnostic MUCH easier if ever you had a problem. I.e. keep swapping parts until you work out whats causing a problem and also if you ride together long distances, the one set of spares will cover both bikes...

 

[K7MDL]

I like my '07 610 so much I often think about what I would do if I wore it out. I do not really like the options (today). I catch myself thinking I should get another '07 610 if a deal presents itself before they disappear. But in 5 years, who knows what kind of riding I will like? I have already gone through several bikes looking for the perfect one, and my riding interests have evolved also. Same with fishing or other hobbies. So now I have several bikes. The 610 however is the one I ride 19 times out of 20. Has all the HP it needs for cruising the freeway and not break a sweat, yet handles 95% of S/T trails, and everything in between. I wish I could put the 610 WR transmission on the TE450 and reduce the wear and tear on my 610. I also like swapping parts. Several of the TE450 parts are interchangable, a 2nd 610 would be great. Keep one setup for commute, one for dirt. Swap wheels rather than tires for speed.

I do not consider the 610 valves hard to adjust. For one, it does not need it often, and you only have to remove the inspection covers and adjust the screw and locknut. No shims to stock. It does take technique, but that is easily acquired. The biggest pain is removing my 5 gallon IMS tank and its 5 hose connections to get to the valve covers.