WickedWill
Husqvarna
AA Class
No.From a place in oz that sells cheap safari tanks,mostly for dr and drz, every now and then.At this stage if the black is too much some covers will be made that can be painted.No bubbling stickers.
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New 630 Safari tank
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Husqvarna
No.From a place in oz that sells cheap safari tanks,mostly for dr and drz, every now and then.At this stage if the black is too much some covers will be made that can be painted.No bubbling stickers.
Dr Klaun
Husqvarna
A Class
It's been a few days, so I thought I'd chime in with an update of sorts.
After the talk of sealing issues with the tank / pump flange, I pulled the tank out of the box again to have a look (I was going to put off mounting this up for a month or 2 until I have the time). I didn't like what I saw.
The plastic appeared to be melted or something, as well as the opening was trimmed a bit to close to this threaded insert:
The insert at the middle / right is much closer to the opening, and I was concerned that the gasket would not have the area to properly seat.
Here's a web shot of the pump flange and gasket:
I emailed "Just Gas Tanks" (seller) with some of these photos and they responded quickly (by email and phone) that they would ship out another tank, but they were all out of the white. BTW, they did mention that these tend to have less than flat mounting areas.... Kudos to them and their great service!! So my new red tank showed up today with a prepaid return ticket for the white one.
Lot's of expensive plastic hanging around....
I opened them both up to compare the mounting areas.
The red one has a nice even cut out for the pump, but it's definitely not flat.
The surface on the underside is also very porous, or looks like the molding process was very bubbly. I looked hard at the white tank in the glare, etc. and couldn't find any areas like this. Not sure if this is standard or not....
Here's a quick shot of the uneven surface at the mounting plate area:The steel square is sitting on the 2 opposite inserts. Looks like a bit of light sanding may be the trick.
Not trying to make a big thing of this, as I've never dealt with an aftermarket tank before, just thought I'd show some details on these and hopefully get some feedback.
Thanks!
After the talk of sealing issues with the tank / pump flange, I pulled the tank out of the box again to have a look (I was going to put off mounting this up for a month or 2 until I have the time). I didn't like what I saw.
The plastic appeared to be melted or something, as well as the opening was trimmed a bit to close to this threaded insert:
The insert at the middle / right is much closer to the opening, and I was concerned that the gasket would not have the area to properly seat.
Here's a web shot of the pump flange and gasket:
I emailed "Just Gas Tanks" (seller) with some of these photos and they responded quickly (by email and phone) that they would ship out another tank, but they were all out of the white. BTW, they did mention that these tend to have less than flat mounting areas.... Kudos to them and their great service!! So my new red tank showed up today with a prepaid return ticket for the white one.
Lot's of expensive plastic hanging around....
I opened them both up to compare the mounting areas.
The red one has a nice even cut out for the pump, but it's definitely not flat.
The surface on the underside is also very porous, or looks like the molding process was very bubbly. I looked hard at the white tank in the glare, etc. and couldn't find any areas like this. Not sure if this is standard or not....
Here's a quick shot of the uneven surface at the mounting plate area:The steel square is sitting on the 2 opposite inserts. Looks like a bit of light sanding may be the trick.
Not trying to make a big thing of this, as I've never dealt with an aftermarket tank before, just thought I'd show some details on these and hopefully get some feedback.
Thanks!
alpha26
Husqvarna
AA Class
The stickers on my tank did not hold up after riding in a hot day! Bubbles were formed. I will have to peel them off.
My tank also started to leak as well. I will have to buy a gasket or O-ring to seal it. The outside of the tank has turned yellow - caused by the leaking petrol. I am sure that the inside of the tank will turn yellow over time as well.
My tank also started to leak as well. I will have to buy a gasket or O-ring to seal it. The outside of the tank has turned yellow - caused by the leaking petrol. I am sure that the inside of the tank will turn yellow over time as well.
Dr Klaun
Husqvarna
A Class
Sorry to hear about your issues. Can you tell us what gasket / o-ring you used for mounting the fuel pump? I noticed that there's quite a bit of plastic (thickness) at the mounting location that can be sanded / filed down flat to help guarantee a tight seal. I hate having to do things like this twice....
I won't get to mounting mine up for another month or so - too many other projects going on right now, but I'll post more pic's of what I do.
Sorry to see your decals peeling. I've been hunting for some perforated vinyl to try out.
On a side note, I did speak with the vendor (JGT's) regarding the bubble / porosity issue on the second tank I received. They indicated that this has been an ongoing problem with the Safari tanks they've received for some time, but it won't affect how they work. Mine is only on the underside so there's no visual issue when installed on the bike. I'll be a red tank bike!
I won't get to mounting mine up for another month or so - too many other projects going on right now, but I'll post more pic's of what I do.
Sorry to see your decals peeling. I've been hunting for some perforated vinyl to try out.
On a side note, I did speak with the vendor (JGT's) regarding the bubble / porosity issue on the second tank I received. They indicated that this has been an ongoing problem with the Safari tanks they've received for some time, but it won't affect how they work. Mine is only on the underside so there's no visual issue when installed on the bike. I'll be a red tank bike!
alpha26
Husqvarna
AA Class
I found out that there was already a small rubber gasket with the fuel pump. I took it out and replace it with a piece of thicker rubber that I found in my local hardware store and cut it to shape. So far it has stopped the leak.
I bought another set of decals from another EBay store for $8 a set and give it another try, but I don't think it will work.
I bought another set of decals from another EBay store for $8 a set and give it another try, but I don't think it will work.
maxyb
Husqvarna
AA Class
WickedWill
Husqvarna
AA Class
No still got a few more bits to collect before bike gets stripped , gusseted,faired,racked, exhausted,bazzazed ......
Then i can put it all back together and get a shot of the tank .
Max have you got any good shots of the centrestand?
maxyb
Husqvarna
AA Class
No still got a few more bits to collect before bike gets stripped , gusseted,faired,racked, exhausted,bazzazed ......
Then i can put it all back together and get a shot of the tank .
Max have you got any good shots of the centrestand?
Looking forward to seeing it. I plan on doing most of that when i come home from uni - I'm 2000 km away from my 630
I don't have any good shots of the centre stand in use, but i can tell you it's just about the most useful thing i've put on it (tyre changes are so simple)
but, here's a shot from cigarmike's website (who i bought it off) - it even has a safari tank - staying on topic
here's his site if you're interested http://www.cigarmikes.com/2011/11/te630-centerstand-85shipping.html
i did have to pull the legs out from scraping my swingarm though (but that was after a few naps on its side)
Max
asi00007
Husqvarna
A Class
It's been a few days, so I thought I'd chime in with an update of sorts.
After the talk of sealing issues with the tank / pump flange, I pulled the tank out of the box again to have a look (I was going to put off mounting this up for a month or 2 until I have the time). I didn't like what I saw.
The plastic appeared to be melted or something, as well as the opening was trimmed a bit to close to this threaded insert:
The insert at the middle / right is much closer to the opening, and I was concerned that the gasket would not have the area to properly seat.
Here's a web shot of the pump flange and gasket:
I emailed "Just Gas Tanks" (seller) with some of these photos and they responded quickly (by email and phone) that they would ship out another tank, but they were all out of the white. BTW, they did mention that these tend to have less than flat mounting areas.... Kudos to them and their great service!! So my new red tank showed up today with a prepaid return ticket for the white one.
Lot's of expensive plastic hanging around....
I opened them both up to compare the mounting areas.
The red one has a nice even cut out for the pump, but it's definitely not flat.
The surface on the underside is also very porous, or looks like the molding process was very bubbly. I looked hard at the white tank in the glare, etc. and couldn't find any areas like this. Not sure if this is standard or not....
Here's a quick shot of the uneven surface at the mounting plate area:The steel square is sitting on the 2 opposite inserts. Looks like a bit of light sanding may be the trick.
Not trying to make a big thing of this, as I've never dealt with an aftermarket tank before, just thought I'd show some details on these and hopefully get some feedback.
Thanks!
Hi mate! did yiu install the tank ? Im looking for a picture with the red tank ..
cheers
WickedWill
Husqvarna
AA Class
In black
Looks pretty good in the flesh,don't think i'll try and cover the black
Looks pretty good in the flesh,don't think i'll try and cover the black
JonDirt
Husqvarna
AA Class
I put the Safari on my 610 and had the same problems with the fuel pump leaking (see this thread). I tried various solutions, then took it to a bike shop to sort out. They filed down one of the brass inserts, then used Wurth Super Etc-Silicone Black sealant, which seemed to fix the problem (though this sealant does not list fuel pumps as an application, hmmm). One downside is that, after a few hundred k's, my low-fuel sensor has stopped working (I found this out 20k from anywhere of course). The thought of removing the pump, figuring out what is blocking the sensor and reinstalling it makes me uncomfortable.
Motoxnut has a 630 and also ordered a Safari tank and it leaked as well - his thought was it was better to return it and get one that doesn't leak. If you modify it and then it starts leaking in a few months they may refuse to do a warranty replacement.
The tank does fit the bike nicely but it is -huge-, much more capacity than I need. Also, when I fill it to capacity it impacts the riding position and handling in a way that's a bit deceptive. Everything seems great until you hit a big rut, then the extra weight up front can do surprising things to the front wheel. Given the handling, the cost, the fuel pump fiddling, and the fact I won't recoup the investment when I sell the bike, in hindsight I wish I had done something like RotoPax instead.
Russ
Husqvarna
AA Class
There are some photos I took of a fitted red Safari tank on this thread:
http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/husky-te630-project-bike-trailzone-offroadexplorer-com.19573/page-2
Personally, I prefer the white one.
BaronVonDarrin
Husqvarna
A Class
I think I like the black over both
But I honestly still really want a black lower and red upper. I think I go this route, I might try to plastidip the top of a black safari tank red. Or make a stretch red cover for it
XLEnduroMan
Heroes Ride Huskys. The others follow.
I don't know if this has been mentioned or tried yet, but I have had good luck with Teflon tape on leaky float bowl gaskets. Once on an old Triumph single and again on an older 4cyl street bike. Start the tape at an angle so it will wrap around the shape of the gasket. It takes some fineness and a little time but you can "fatten" up the gaskets and stop the leaks. These fuel pump gaskets should be super easy to fatten up with a roll of 3/4" Teflon tape. This is the first fix I would try as it has worked 100% for me before.
WickedWill
Husqvarna
AA Class
After fitting the safari tank i've noticed my fan coming on more often.The weather is cooler but the fan seems to be running more.Anyone else noticed this after fitting the safari tank?
Had mine in Morocco at 42 C (107 F for you guys over the pond). Didn't notice the fan on any more than usual and the handling over the rocky trails was fine. It was about 3/4 full in the sand dunes and was fine there as well. Last year a friend with the same bike had overheating problems but mine was fine, luck of the draw I guess.
Glad the tank is good and tough as I had 2 decent crashes on rocks and only broke an indicator lens, provided good radiator protection. Did crack 2 ribs in a crash in the sand dunes but that was operator error, made the rest of the trip interesting though.
Glad the tank is good and tough as I had 2 decent crashes on rocks and only broke an indicator lens, provided good radiator protection. Did crack 2 ribs in a crash in the sand dunes but that was operator error, made the rest of the trip interesting though.