• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

New 630 Safari tank

Just in case I wanted to go back to the stock tank, is there anything non-reversible in the Safari Tank install process?
 
Hey Ken, I noticed over on the sub-frame thread that your Safari tank had developed a leak. I've been fighting the same issue. Mine's had a slow leak, almost just a seep, in the crossover valve location.

With the issues some have had with the warped fuel pump mount area (including me), I thought that might be the issue. After trying 3 different "gasoline resistant" sealers, a slightly thicker o-ring, and even a full gasket, I finally found that that wasn't my issue at all.

This afternoon, I pulled the tank, again. I pulled the crossover valve, and found no sign that my leak was from behind the valve, or that the valve itself was leaking. I even switched valves last time I did this. In cleaning up the excess sealer in that area, I noticed that the sealer had stained an interesting area in the pocket the crossover valve sits in. It's doesn't look like a crack, it's more like a clean slice in the plastic. It doesn't go straight through, it's at an angle, and curved in shape. You ever skin your knuckle, and lay the skin back down? It looks like that. I couldn't tell you if it's a casting flaw, or whatever, so I'm not going to cast blame anywhere, but it's hard for me to not be disappointed in this tank. Doesn't seem like you get much for your $650 these days.

Anyways, I cleaned the area, and mixed up some epoxy to try to seal the area. I hope it works, I'm going to let it set until Saturday.

Anybody got a stock tank they want to sell? I don't know if mine is useable, it's missing one of the fuel pump mount inserts.
 
I guess you didn't get any pics of the area?
I have been playing with the thought of buying a safari tank since there is limited options for extended range.
The high failure rates are causing me some concern though.
 
pinocono said:
Hey Ken, I noticed over on the sub-frame thread that your Safari tank had developed a leak. I've been fighting the same issue. Mine's had a slow leak, almost just a seep, in the crossover valve location.

With the issues some have had with the warped fuel pump mount area (including me), I thought that might be the issue. After trying 3 different "gasoline resistant" sealers, a slightly thicker o-ring, and even a full gasket, I finally found that that wasn't my issue at all.

This afternoon, I pulled the tank, again. I pulled the crossover valve, and found no sign that my leak was from behind the valve, or that the valve itself was leaking. I even switched valves last time I did this. In cleaning up the excess sealer in that area, I noticed that the sealer had stained an interesting area in the pocket the crossover valve sits in. It's doesn't look like a crack, it's more like a clean slice in the plastic. It doesn't go straight through, it's at an angle, and curved in shape. You ever skin your knuckle, and lay the skin back down? It looks like that. I couldn't tell you if it's a casting flaw, or whatever, so I'm not going to cast blame anywhere, but it's hard for me to not be disappointed in this tank. Doesn't seem like you get much for your $650 these days.

Anyways, I cleaned the area, and mixed up some epoxy to try to seal the area. I hope it works, I'm going to let it set until Saturday.

Anybody got a stock tank they want to sell? I don't know if mine is useable, it's missing one of the fuel pump mount inserts.
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Good info! When I get back from my trip I'll take a close look to see what the problem may be. Very strange that the leak came out of the blue. Fortunately, I have my stock tank and can pop it back on easily. If the Safari has failed I will be in contact with them to see if they will do anything to help. I know there is no warranty at this point, or is there. It is part of the fuel system and isn't that covered under some kind of law?
 
mekanik said:
I guess you didn't get any pics of the area?
I have been playing with the thought of buying a safari tank since there is limited options for extended range.
The high failure rates are causing me some concern though.
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In retrospect, I wouldn't buy one. I'd stick with stacking a Kolpin fuel pak on the back rack.
 
That is the way I am set up now, I carry 4 liters on the rack and two one liter fuel bottles in the Kriegas
 
Started to remove the tank this morning and found the cross over tube split at one end. I'm sure that's the problem but will investigate more when I get home again.
 
Kenneth Webb said:
Started to remove the tank this morning and found the cross over tube split at one end. I'm sure that's the problem but will investigate more when I get home again.
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That sounds good. That crossover hose doesn't even look like fuel line. It looks more like vacuum line. At least mine does, it has no reinforcing, it's just thinwall rubber.
 
pinocono said:
That sounds good. That crossover hose doesn't even look like fuel line. It looks more like vacuum line. At least mine does, it has no reinforcing, it's just thinwall rubber.
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You have that right! Not a lot of space in there but I will try to use fuel hose.
 
Kenneth Webb said:
Started to remove the tank this morning and found the cross over tube split at one end. I'm sure that's the problem but will investigate more when I get home again.
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Hopefully that's all it is. But what doesn't make sense is you said you turned off both petcocks and it continued to leak. Did you open the petcocks again before parkiing it overnight?

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Well, the epoxy just peeled right off. I called Just Gas Tanks and asked them if they knew of any adhesive/sealant that would work on the tank. Negative, it's made of polyethylene, though a common plastic, solvents, sealers, and adhesives just don't work well. Their recommendation was plastic welding. I found a shop locally that does that, has been doing it for awhile, and has done motorcycle gas tanks in the past. So, I'll give that a shot tomorrow.
 
Took the tank to the plastic welder this morning. Guy knew his stuff, and knew what to look for. He found a 2nd area (in the same general vicinity) where the tank was seeping. He spent about an hour on it, preparing, welding, inspecting, cleaning, etc. When I got home, I installed the crossover valve, but before I installed the tank back on the bike, I poured some gas down in that pocket of the tank. 2 hours later, no leaks. Bone dry. Keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm optimistic.
I know this tank is long out of warranty, but these leaks seem obviously due to poor quality, and I doubt I'll ever be a Safari customer again.
 
pinocono said:
I know this tank is long out of warranty, but these leaks seem obviously due to poor quality, and I doubt I'll ever be a Safari customer again.
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+1. I also ended up taking my tank to a plastic welder because of leaks around the fuel pump area. I don't think I'll get another Safari - next time I'll probably to just use a couple of RotoPax or something like that.
 
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