New Barn Find

[dartyppyt]

Very cool bike, been looking for one myself. Want a real thrill? Team Husky ran that bike with a SIX SPEED in Baja. Gearing was 14/48, I think, but a 15/46 was tested at one point. The bike should have come with fairing just to keep the riders on the seat! Brent and Scott took it to victory that year. I helped Mark Miller (Red Bull/VW/Dakar Racer) put a 6 speeder in his. It worked, he won the only ADRA race it was raced in. He sold the bike and went to college, saying after the race "any thing that fast needs a cage and four wheels." So, if you have trouble with 4 speed just put a 430CR 5 speed in it or go the 100+ mph club with the six speed. Now get to work, please.

Thanx for the history lesson, like that stuff! I ran an 81 ported 430 CR and I know I went up on carb size as well. I hit a KTM 500 in a dusted straight and we both flipped. Later after the race, he said that I hit him like he was sitting still. Can only imagine this 500. Looks like there is a lot of areas to work on in the ports, as well. One race, dead engine start, mine kicked back and started in reverse, I let the clutch out and I went over the bars and the bike went into the riders on the second row. 6spd would like be shifting on the fly!
I told my son that he doesn't even know what a roost is and always felt sorry for the riders behind you. Sure wish they would make some of those old Trellborg's. This bike has the original on it but it looks like a slick.

I polished the jug and head on my 430 and gonna tackle this big jug. Need a lot of sand paper and paint stiring sticks. I already did an area on the head and looks sharp.

 

[dartyppyt]

I spent about 2 hours on working out my first tank dent. Need to work on the other 3 that that I can't really get to from inside using a special made bar. Going to try pulling another one out tonight and I epoxied small bolt heads in the dent area using JB weld. If it works real good I will do a tank dent and restoration thread. My goal is to get them out so after I clear coat the tank, I can go back and wet sand the clear coat and fill it in with clear coat. It had the Husky Product clear decals on tank. Going to try and reproduce them.

 

[Picklito]

That's GREAT!!! Very similar to my barn find...


But I bet yours doesn't have a bee in the fuel filter!

 

[dartyppyt]

Nice find as well. They might have been related? Previous owners, because they like red on plastics.

 

[PALMER84ONE]

I spent about 2 hours on working out my first tank dent. Need to work on the other 3 that that I can't really get to from inside using a special made bar. Going to try pulling another one out tonight and I epoxied small bolt heads in the dent area using JB weld. If it works real good I will do a tank dent and restoration thread. My goal is to get them out so after I clear coat the tank, I can go back and wet sand the clear coat and fill it in with clear coat. It had the Husky Product clear decals on tank. Going to try and reproduce them.

Have you tried the water fill and freez trick that works great on 2T pipe chambers.

 

[ruwfo]

Dartyppyt,
Scarest bike i ever had was a 81 KTM 495, my 84 500CR has a 6 speed (stock), so you can make
yours into a 6spd if you find a 84 donor bike. Be careful using the water & tank in the freezer trick
i've almost split the seams on a tank.

Husky John

 

[Wildebeest90210]

Thanx Guys. Looks to be on original bore and little Loosey Goosey (Piston would make a good coffee mug). Looks like 1st and 3rd gear were ready to slip on the cogs and new ones have to be in order. I think rod/bearing look good. Main bearings were getting ready to go. Found a nice ear off the clutch basket that has been floating around and the main clutch gear is shot that rides on idler gear.

Of course, The clutch cover has seen its day! Hey, at least one Ohlins shaft isn't bent. Thought I'd never get the main drive gear off the shaft with a puller. I had to shock the gear with an air hammer and glad I left the nut on a little when it popped. Main bearings were a treat to press out of the cases.

There are two small dents in the tank, but I am going to make some rods like i have used on car dents, to stick down in the tank and work the dents out. Time consuming but should be able to get them out.

I got a brand new clutch cover here
http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/2t-cast-ally-clutch-case-brand-new.24176/
if you are interested PM me, I'm going to put it on ebay Sunday if not.

 

[dartyppyt]

Thanx! I saw that cover and is very nice. I think I found a cover in good shape. I am currently chasing down tranny gears and found them all except for one. They look good except for two but also want the mating gears opposite to them. Good tip on the six speed and will look for a complete set. Want to have a good complete 4 speed in case if ever sold so can go back original.

I have one and half tank dents to get out. I heard about freezing tank but lil worried it will expand the frame thru the part or pop a seem. Can the tank be tilted and just the spot area frooze? I heated it till aluminum was soft and still can't push it out all the way and can't seem to get the leverage behind it. Even trying the heating and quick cooling method to shrink, but just goes back to about same spot. My last option probably is to drill, pull, level the pulling holes and weld holes shut. Another option would be to weld some aluminum rods to the dents, so I can pull on them. The JB weld didn't even hold. Then file to reshape. If I can get them some what close, I can fill them with the final clear coat. I am reall good at forming auto sheet metal and dents but this aluminum is a bugger to work with.

 

[PALMER84ONE]

Freezing is a good method as long as you leave the room for expansion, works wonders on the 2T pipes if you can get the posision in the freezer right. Another way would be to weld an aluminum (in your case) all thread to the center of the dent and make a pull rig with a couple of flat metel and nuts. Keep working at them and good luck.

 

[Picklito]

They might have been related? Previous owners, because they like red on plastics.

Ya, that's what caught my eye. She'll be going back to white, for sure. Mine has been swapped to a 6-speed. As you know, they brought that model out late 82 and some call it an 82-1/2. It was a 4-speed dedicated to MX. Didn't sell well, probably because all the hard-core MX'ers had already bought their 82 race bikes, and the 83 models were just around the corner (including Husky's own new white frame with ITC rear suspension). It had a 44mm Mikuni that was hard to start, wasn't jetted well, and ran poorly down low, put out a big grunt in the middle, then revved nowhere. It also shook like a paint mixer. So it was a pretty dated bike already by the time it was released. So what Husky did to help sales was to offer a 6-speed tranny-in-a-box and large plastic tank as a purchase incentive. Eventually, they sold them all. So I'm sure a majority of them have been swapped to 6'ers by now. I'd love to find a 4 but they're rare and often pricey. With the usual modern engine tweaks they run great and are a lot of fun. I'm eager to see your build. I'm doing my engine slowly but have not started on the chassis.

 

[dartyppyt]

Thanx for the history lesson! Really like the background info on stuff. Yeah, that 4 speeder is hard to find.I remember the bike in it's day and really glad I found one. I figure it will take all summer gathering the parts then will hit it hard come fall and winter. Plus, got to get my 08 250 finished. I am doing it in the CR 500 silver/red retro look. What's weird is then I find the bike. I have some odd stuff that happens that I can't explain. Have to tell you the GTO story some time.

 

[ruwfo]

The other thing about putting the tank in the freeze is spray inside down with oil or WD-40, mine went in clean as a whistle, and
came out covered in rust.

 

[dartyppyt]

How for do you fill it top and how long do you freeze it?

 

[hvaloz2]

Very cool bike, been looking for one myself. Want a real thrill? Team Husky ran that bike with a SIX SPEED in Baja. Gearing was 14/48, I think, but a 15/46 was tested at one point. The bike should have come with fairing just to keep the riders on the seat! Brent and Scott took it to victory that year. I helped Mark Miller (Red Bull/VW/Dakar Racer) put a 6 speeder in his. It worked, he won the only ADRA race it was raced in. He sold the bike and went to college, saying after the race "any thing that fast needs a cage and four wheels." So, if you have trouble with 4 speed just put a 430CR 5 speed in it or go the 100+ mph club with the six speed. Now get to work, please.

er 430 never had 5 speeds...all were 6 .

 

[jimspac]

I spent about 2 hours on working out my first tank dent. Need to work on the other 3 that that I can't really get to from inside using a special made bar. Going to try pulling another one out tonight and I epoxied small bolt heads in the dent area using JB weld. If it works real good I will do a tank dent and restoration thread. My goal is to get them out so after I clear coat the tank, I can go back and wet sand the clear coat and fill it in with clear coat. It had the Husky Product clear decals on tank. Going to try and reproduce them.

JB Weld would not work as I am sure you have found. 3M Panel Weld is much better and you have to clean repair area to bare metal

 

[dartyppyt]

Thanks for the pointer! Will try that as well.

 

[dartyppyt]

Attached is my gear set. the one on the base of the clutch does not match very well. But that could be because the teeth on the clutch gear are bad.

 

[dukkman]

Interesting clutch basket.
All the ones I have seen are steel.
Must have changed in the later models.

 

[Picklito]

I can't quite see all the teeth on the smaller clutch gear. But two very common tooth counts for the 250/400/430/500 small/idler ratio are 22/32 or 17/25. There are others. I "think" they started to move away from the 22/32 around mid 1982, as most or all of my 84-86 stuff is 17/25. Is this from your CR500? That would make sense, as it's a late 82 engine.

Also, the few remaining 885 39/70 gear sets I have ALL have the 22/32 ratio, but they're all from 81 or 82 430's. Again, if this gear set is from your Silver Streak it would make sense that you have the other backside ratio. You also have a solid basket (no lightening holes) which I also think was a "strength" choice for the Big Girl, before they went all steel.

Edit: I lied, doesn't seem this sentence is correct: "I "think" they started to move away from the 22/32 around mid 1982, as most or all of my 84-86 stuff is 17/25." I've got early and late gear sets with both 22/32 and 17/25 idler ratios.

 

[dartyppyt]

I can't quite see all the teeth on the smaller clutch gear. But two very common tooth counts for the 250/400/430/500 small/idler ratio are 22/32 or 17/25. There are others. I "think" they started to move away from the 22/32 around mid 1982, as most or all of my 84-86 stuff is 17/25. Is this from your CR500? That would make sense, as it's a late 82 engine.

Also, the few remaining 885 39/70 gear sets I have ALL have the 22/32 ratio, but they're all from 81 or 82 430's. Again, if this gear set is from your Silver Streak it would make sense that you have the other backside ratio. You also have a solid basket (no lightening holes) which I also think was a "strength" choice for the Big Girl, before they went all steel.

I will get the tooth count. Again, thanx for your knowledge! Yes, it is off the 500. Last night, I set everything back in to check alignment (Sure looks like the correct set). Whomever, was in there, installed the idler gear in backwards. You can tell how it rubbed the bearing. Also seems to me that the idler gear is missing a shim that should go behind the gear? I have one that goes on front under the C clip. but with the bearing installed correctly, there is a gap that is equal distance of another shim? The gear has a good fit on the shaft from side to side play. Both idler and kicker gear bearings look good, but I will rebearing the whole motor. The bearing for the main shaft looks a little loose and think that also contributed to the gear going out. Both Idler and kicker gear look like new. They could have been replaced ?