New (used) TE310

[NH-JP]

I had the 2011 TE310 and now have the 2013 TXC310.
On the 2011 I ran the 12 pt injector and the JD tuner on it and that worked really pretty well.
Started with just the tuner and that was good on its own.
When I ordered the injector I asked about doing the ECU and was told that it was redundant if running the Tuner. So that would be the workaround on the ECU.

A shark fin for the rear rotor can be useful as well.

 

[MotoXImage]

I had the 2011 TE310 and now have the 2013 TXC310.
On the 2011 I ran the 12 pt injector and the JD tuner on it and that worked really pretty well.
Started with just the tuner and that was good on its own.
When I ordered the injector I asked about doing the ECU and was told that it was redundant if running the Tuner. So that would be the workaround on the ECU.
A shark fin for the rear rotor can be useful as well.

Whoever told you that running the 12pt and changing the ECU was redundant is wrong. The idea is to mimic the TXC310, IE, using the TXC ECU and 12pt injector which is a proven beast combo.
I had the 12pt and JD Tune on my 11 TE310 but switching to the PCV I mentioned is flat out superior in every way. I'd attribute most of the improvement to the the PCVs ability to not only provide a better fuel map than the JD, it also modify's the ignition curve. Pardon the pun but the difference is shocking.

What Shark Fin are you using?

 

[NH-JP]

When I went to order both the 12pt and ECU from Bills they told me that it was not worth spending the money on the ECU if the JD was already on it. I had no reason to believe any different, and it was saving me money.
I'm running a Motosportz Shark Fin and have been very happy with it.
The 7602 looks very similar.

 

[melias24]

I'd like to hear about 310s. I've read heaps of good reviews about them. What is the power like? Faster than a tc250 or cr125 (husky)? Do they have hot start issues? Are they good on fuel etc. I think i really do want to make the 310 my next bike, like within the next few months.

 

[DRCA]

I'd like to hear about 310s. I've read heaps of good reviews about them. What is the power like? Faster than a tc250 or cr125 (husky)? Do they have hot start issues? Are they good on fuel etc. I think i really do want to make the 310 my next bike, like within the next few months.

I am the OP on this thread and I've had my bike for a couple of months now and the short answer is that I love it! I can't answer your question regarding comparing it the other Huskies you list because I never tried them.

I had a few teething problems at the beginning (bought it used) but that was taken care of pretty quickly thanks to the help of some people on the forum.

I love the handling: front end inspires confident, very nimble overall. Power is more than adequate for me: I rarely use the full power on top (too old, too slow) and the power on the bottom is more than sufficient and much more manageable than my WR450F. Clutch is nice and smooth, gearing is pretty good: 2nd gear in the tight stuff except for the most gnarly, way too fast for me WFO in top gear :-)

Never had any hot start problems (I did put a LiPo battery).

Downsides....

• Mine's flames out from time to time in the gnarly stuff. It's goes Pop... and stalls (and the funny part is that when it does that it resets the trip meter!).
  
• It started to run lean: pops and crackles on decelerations so I need to play with the ECU parameters (I downloaded the software and made my own cable).
  
• After sitting engine off from a hot lap for 10+ minutes, it restarts fine, but the engine has this too rich 2 stroke feel, where I need to wack the throttle wide open a few time to clear it up. No clues where it comes from
  
• I am getting worried about parts availability... I don't think Husqvarna was in a position to build a lot of spare inventory to start with and I don't think that KTM is going to invest anything make new spare parts for old bikes...

Finally on the suspensions side, I need to play with the springs before I can pass judgement (the rear is soft for my weight, front seems to be ok tho).

Hope this helps.

 

[Trenchcoat85]

...and the velocity stack. On this one, I am in the dark as to what to look for and where to look. Any pointers would be great. ​

Denis- I don't know if you have found one yet (or even have one in your intake) but it is a red, trumpet-shaped plastic piece that goes in the air intake boot. It smooths out the turbulent airflow and allows more air to get into the throttle body. on my '14 it was severely restricted- but also made to be easily modified.

Radiator guards - The bike doesn't have any. What's the good setup for radiator guards? What people recommend?

Chinese radiators are so cheap... are you sure you need guards (or braces- which IMO are more important)? if so, there are a couple of sponsors here that sell them.

Low end stall / backfire - The bike tends to hesitate / stall when the throttle is cracked open rather fast from all the way closed and there is some backfire too. I am surprise that this still happens on EFI bikes... What's the fix? New EFI programmable controller? What's the recommendation on these? 12 points injector? I read the various posts but couldn't come to a definitive conclusion!

don't be surprised- the biggest advantage with efi is it allows manufactures to meet stringent air quality goals- in spite of how bad the motor runs.

I don't know about the '11 but I think the PC5 & 12 hole injector are the best fix.

Pipes / headers / muffler - without wanting to throw too much money at the bike, is there much to gain from a new header / muffler? I am looking for bottom end grunt rather than top end. I might have a good deal on a Akrapovick will system, but if it adds only to the top end and robs some off the bottom, I'll pass.

My Leo Vince Titanium exhaust might've added to the bottom end; it certainly didn't take anything away. the only reason I mention this is that all these euro exhaust systems sure look similar to me... including the Arrow Titanium system (plus header) for $400 (https://halls-cycles.stores.dealerspike.com/product.aspx?zpid=5220598) which I think fits your 310 (maybe there was an issue with the header?? crs) btw, thanks to Robert for this.

I am not sure about the stock tank- you may want to get a TC tank to use the aluminum plate 6-bolt fuel pump. TCX's & TE's switched to the stupid (and complicated) KTM-style 4-bolt fuel pumps for some reason, which are more expensive.

good luck.

 

[DRCA]

Hi Trenchcoat, thans for the pointers.

Denis- I don't know if you have found one yet (or even have one in your intake) but it is a red, trumpet-shaped plastic piece that goes in the air intake boot. It smooths out the turbulent airflow and allows more air to get into the throttle body. on my '14 it was severely restricted- but also made to be easily modified.

Ah... didn't know about this one. I don't think I have one (I am traveling in Europe right now so I can't check). What does it looks like (photo)? And where can I get one?

Chinese radiators are so cheap... are you sure you need guards (or braces- which IMO are more important)? if so, there are a couple of sponsors here that sell them.

I ordered the Moose racing, tried them on and the fit was so bad that I sent them back and I decided to go without (altho I just twisted my WR450F radiators despite the brace so I am having second thoughts....)

don't be surprised- the biggest advantage with efi is it allows manufactures to meet stringent air quality goals- in spite of how bad the motor runs.

I don't know about the '11 but I think the PC5 & 12 hole injector are the best fix.

Unfortunately the 12 holes injector and TXC ECU kit isn't available. Turns out that the bike has plenty of power for me, but the injection could use some tuning (running lean down low). I have the software and the cable so I'll need to research what needs to be tweaked from there.

My Leo Vince Titanium exhaust might've added to the bottom end; it certainly didn't take anything away. the only reason I mention this is that all these euro exhaust systems sure look similar to me... including the Arrow Titanium system (plus header) for $400 (https://halls-cycles.stores.dealerspike.com/product.aspx?zpid=5220598) which I think fits your 310 (maybe there was an issue with the header?? crs) btw, thanks to Robert for this.

Whoa... a $1600 exhaust for $400... Someone's losing their shirt on these. Now I have to seriously think about it! My only concern will be too keep it under the sound limit if I want to run enduros again this fall.

I am not sure about the stock tank- you may want to get a TC tank to use the aluminum plate 6-bolt fuel pump. TCX's & TE's switched to the stupid (and complicated) KTM-style 4-bolt fuel pumps for some reason, which are more expensive.

The TC tank is different from the TXC and TE? That's interesting. I found a TE stock tank off eBay and it works pretty well (altho the changeover wasn't the smoothest...).

good luck.

Thanks!

 

[melias24]

I am the OP on this thread and I've had my bike for a couple of months now and the short answer is that I love it! I can't answer your question regarding comparing it the other Huskies you list because I never tried them.

I had a few teething problems at the beginning (bought it used) but that was taken care of pretty quickly thanks to the help of some people on the forum.

I love the handling: front end inspires confident, very nimble overall. Power is more than adequate for me: I rarely use the full power on top (too old, too slow) and the power on the bottom is more than sufficient and much more manageable than my WR450F. Clutch is nice and smooth, gearing is pretty good: 2nd gear in the tight stuff except for the most gnarly, way too fast for me WFO in top gear :-)

Never had any hot start problems (I did put a LiPo battery).

Downsides....

• Mine's flames out from time to time in the gnarly stuff. It's goes Pop... and stalls (and the funny part is that when it does that it resets the trip meter!).
• It started to run lean: pops and crackles on decelerations so I need to play with the ECU parameters (I downloaded the software and made my own cable).
• After sitting engine off from a hot lap for 10+ minutes, it restarts fine, but the engine has this too rich 2 stroke feel, where I need to wack the throttle wide open a few time to clear it up. No clues where it comes from
• I am getting worried about parts availability... I don't think Husqvarna was in a position to build a lot of spare inventory to start with and I don't think that KTM is going to invest anything make new spare parts for old bikes...

Finally on the suspensions side, I need to play with the springs before I can pass judgement (the rear is soft for my weight, front seems to be ok tho).

Hope this helps.

Thanks for that! Yeah my TC250r is a prick (then again it is a race bike) and flames out as well. It also gets a bit hard to start when hot, but most carbie 4 strokes seem to be?.... Hopefully if i end up with a te310 it doesnt have hot start issues. Thanks ****************************************

 

[MotoXImage]

Hi Trenchcoat, thans for the pointers.

Unfortunately the 12 holes injector and TXC ECU kit isn't available. Turns out that the bike has plenty of power for me, but the injection could use some tuning (running lean down low). I have the software and the cable so I'll need to research what needs to be tweaked from there.

Thanks!

Don't let the lack of the "kit" hold you back.
Get the Kawasaki 12 pt injector part #490330011 and the Powercommander V #23-009. This is a proven combo. The PCV also allows you run different maps and if desired, the Autotune. Even if you can find the TCX ECU it won't have the versatility of the PCV. I have to thank Ty of www.ziptyracing.com for recommending this last year. They are also a sponsor listed on this site. And have a discount for cafehusky users.

 

[Trenchcoat85]

Ah... didn't know about this one. I don't think I have one (I am traveling in Europe right now so I can't check). What does it looks like (photo)? And where can I get one?

I ordered the Moose racing, tried them on and the fit was so bad that I sent them back and I decided to go without (altho I just twisted my WR450F radiators despite the brace so I am having second thoughts....)

well, radiator guards & braces are like bark-busters... you're gonna hafta wrestle with 'em, file 'em, cut 'em, bend 'em, beat 'em, and use other forms of persuasion to get them to fit.

OTOH, I've noticed that both modern handguards and braces have less fitment issues lately. I bought a pair of chinese pro bend look-alikes ($17 + shipping. wow) that bolted on to my bike with no issues at all; unheard of with a hydro clutch and fat bars.

Whoa... a $1600 exhaust for $400... Someone's losing their shirt on these. Now I have to seriously think about it! My only concern will be too keep it under the sound limit if I want to run enduros again this fall.

my LV titanium pipe was quieter (!) than my stock LV pipe. bolt-on too. ($129 NIB- never gonna see that again). I cannot say whether the Arrow would be quiet though.

The TC tank is different from the TXC and TE? That's interesting. I found a TE stock tank off eBay and it works pretty well (altho the changeover wasn't the smoothest...).

well, sorta- but backwards. The '11-'14 TE and TXC have a different fuel pump from the TC.... and just about every other FI Husky (including the 449/511s) ever made. If you have a single aluminum plate fuel pump, someone has already made the change for you. You have a much bigger choice in tanks too.

but if your fuel pump is on a plastic 4-bolt plate (and the outlet is on another plastic 4-bolt plate) then you have the "new" fuel pump system. maybe the Terra uses it also (?); I know a KTM does (630? 690?). But, for the life of me, I don't know why Husky switched. I can see no advantage, but I do see a couple of disadvantages.

be careful when you're talking 2014 TE & TC250 also... probably KTM 2t bikes, not Italian. You're safe talking about 310s and TXCs.

 

[R_Little]

Hi Trenchcoat, thans for the pointers.



Ah... didn't know about this one. I don't think I have one (I am traveling in Europe right now so I can't check). What does it looks like (photo)? And where can I get one?



I ordered the Moose racing, tried them on and the fit was so bad that I sent them back and I decided to go without (altho I just twisted my WR450F radiators despite the brace so I am having second thoughts....)



Unfortunately the 12 holes injector and TXC ECU kit isn't available. Turns out that the bike has plenty of power for me, but the injection could use some tuning (running lean down low). I have the software and the cable so I'll need to research what needs to be tweaked from there.



Whoa... a $1600 exhaust for $400... Someone's losing their shirt on these. Now I have to seriously think about it! My only concern will be too keep it under the sound limit if I want to run enduros again this fall.



The TC tank is different from the TXC and TE? That's interesting. I found a TE stock tank off eBay and it works pretty well (altho the changeover wasn't the smoothest...).




Thanks!

I have that Arrow TI pipe and it is just as quiet as stock.

The stock SA fit it perfectly too.

 

[DRCA]

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well, radiator guards & braces are like bark-busters... you're gonna hafta wrestle with 'em, file 'em, cut 'em, bend 'em, beat 'em, and use other forms of persuasion to get them to fit.

OTOH, I've noticed that both modern handguards and braces have less fitment issues lately. I bought a pair of chinese pro bend look-alikes ($17 + shipping. wow) that bolted on to my bike with no issues at all; unheard of with a hydro clutch and fat bars.



my LV titanium pipe was quieter (!) than my stock LV pipe. bolt-on too. ($129 NIB- never gonna see that again). I cannot say whether the Arrow would be quiet though.



well, sorta- but backwards. The '11-'14 TE and TXC have a different fuel pump from the TC.... and just about every other FI Husky (including the 449/511s) ever made. If you have a single aluminum plate fuel pump, someone has already made the change for you. You have a much bigger choice in tanks too.

but if your fuel pump is on a plastic 4-bolt plate (and the outlet is on another plastic 4-bolt plate) then you have the "new" fuel pump system. maybe the Terra uses it also (?); I know a KTM does (630? 690?). But, for the life of me, I don't know why Husky switched. I can see no advantage, but I do see a couple of disadvantages.

be careful when you're talking 2014 TE & TC250 also... probably KTM 2t bikes, not Italian. You're safe talking about 310s and TXCs.

Thanks! So if I don't have the magic trumpet where can I find one?

I unexpectedly found the ECU / Injectro kit (in France from all places see my post here), so I'll try it when I get back home next week-end.

Denis

 

[MotoXImage]

Thanks! So if I don't have the magic trumpet where can I find one?

I unexpectedly found the ECU / Injectro kit (in France from all places see my post here), so I'll try it when I get back home next week-end.

Denis

As soon as you start the bike after installing the ECU/Injector you will hear the difference. After you ride it, you will realize how much power it was losing. Enjoy!

 

[Jimmy250]

Thanks, I love my 310.
I don't remember the plastics brand... might have been Husky plastic. I got the plastic from Bill's Motorcycle Plus ( a CafeHusky sponsor).
The Akra exhaust is a full racing exhaust, and yes it will pass sound inspection. I think it came with an optional baffle too. It adds a few HP across the RPM range and more low and mid torque.

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With the Akrapovic exhaust do you have to re-map the computer?

 

[Trenchcoat85]

Thanks! So if I don't have the magic trumpet where can I find one?

I unexpectedly found the ECU / Injectro kit (in France from all places see my post here), so I'll try it when I get back home next week-end.

Denis

I imagine at your dealer (try Bill's BMP) or I'm thinking there may be a few in some CH member's garage shelf.

from the 2013 TC250R, TXC/TE310R parts manual online
pg 64 #2
part #8538673 $29.99 https://halls-cycles.stores.dealerspike.com/product.aspx?zpid=5283953
(description says: brake caliper, so confirm it's the airboot with the velocity stack)


pg 66#2
part #8000 H6492 $28.50 https://halls-cycles.stores.dealerspike.com/product.aspx?zpid=5321696
"union" (air boot & velocity stack aka "air horn" or "trumpet")

actually, a shop might have one or two hanging around (they're bright red, plastic; The TE's have a buncha holes in 'em, TC/TXC don't- get either one and mod it if you hafta) so ask.

I'm really doubting you're gonna feel the difference though.
good luck.

 

[Dana44]

I've got a JD tuner for 2011 TE310 I'm not using anymore. Tuned for use with factory exhaust with cat removed.
Definitely helps with the low rpm flame out common to the TE. Hit me up if you want it. Hotzip@hotmail.com is my direct email.

 

[everfree]

With the Akrapovic exhaust do you have to re-map the computer?

I did re-map, but not because of the Akrapovic. I think you could just bolt on and be OK.
Because mine is a 2012, the ability to re-map is limited, not like later model years. johnrg has a good thread on re-mapping a later year 310.