Opinions on parts for TE310R Supermoto conversion

[Phoenix]

We ran stock brakes on my husband's KTM 450 supermoto conversion and they had pretty good stopping power (good enough for frisky Appalachian riding on and off pavement). Our Husky 510 SMR had throw you over the handlebars stopping power with the oversized stock setup. As for tires, I liked the 150s best because there was less rubbing on the chain...Avon Distanzias were my personal favorite for 85/15 on/off road riding. Have you looked to see if you could find any SMR partouts on fleabay? The stock stuff from a Husky SMR should bolt right up. I'd like to get a SMR setup going on my TXC 250, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

[GXP_Matt]

Yeah it is just for fun. I'm not set on anything at all I just wanted to know what the difference it would make. Anywho looks like I'll be buying a 4.25" set, what do you all think about brakes? Should they be replaced or is the stock good enough?

I've ridden on the stock brakes and street tires mounted on stock wheels down some steep and winding roads around here and never had any problems. My buddy was in front of me on a DRZ400SM and was complaining of fade... I imagine with the larger rotor it would be even less of an issue.

 

[GXP_Matt]

Click on the link. Fronts are 17x3.5, rears are 17x4.25.

I have a Warp 9 set from Motostrano on my 610. Quality is good, reliability is good, price is good. I will not do business with them again, but they did eventually make the major problems right, and they're sort of the only game in town.

Is there anything you could tell someone that is thinking of getting Warp 9 wheels to help them avoid the same problems or were they unique to your case?

 

[Kyle Tarry]

Yeah it is just for fun. I'm not set on anything at all I just wanted to know what the difference it would make. Anywho looks like I'll be buying a 4.25" set, what do you all think about brakes? Should they be replaced or is the stock good enough?

I ran mine with stock brakes for some time, and I run the EBC 320mm rotor now. Stock brakes are "sufficient" for street use, but I like the feel and the stopping power of the larger rotor. The smaller one is certainly not dangerous, so give it a shot and see if you like it.

Is there anything you could tell someone that is thinking of getting Warp 9 wheels to help them avoid the same problems or were they unique to your case?

I ordered the "bare bones kit" for a TE610 (non-floating larger rotor, warp9 wheels, conti SM tires). It shipped 1-2 weeks late, not a big deal really. Initially, the wheel had the wrong bearing seals, the caliper relocation bracket was wrong, the front rotor was too wide for my caliper, and the rear rotor was too large in diameter for the 610s (which use the smaller rear rotor, like the big WRs). After a couple tries, they sent the right caliper relocation bracket, after I did a bunch of testing of various brackets and sent some measurements. They also replaced the front rotor with the EBC floating rotor (which costs more), which was a nice bonus, but I think it was simply because that was the only one they had that fit, not because they were doing me a favor. For the rear rotor, they said they were going to supply a thinner one, but that never happened. Eventually they said they would take theirs back for a refund, and I could just source my own rotor. I bought an OEM rear rotor and hardware (cost $100+), and then they offered me $45 in refund for theirs. I said that's lame but whatever, mailed it to them in Nov 2011, and got my refund (after multiple email requests)... January 2013.

In the interim, I tested 3-4 different caliper relocation brackets, brake rotors, changed bearing seals, and dis-assembled and re-assembled the bike at least 5 times.

So, in the end, I suppose I got what I paid for, and the trade between the EBC front rotor and having to buy my own rear is probably a wash. It was mostly a pain in the ass because I basically beta tested the kit at full price, and it took about 6-8 weeks from initial receipt of the kit to have something I could run on the bike.

 

[510 SM SC]

My 2011 TE/TXC/SMR 250

List of Parts for the SM conversion for street and track/racing. Shop pricing ???

Wheels: Marchesni front 17/3.5 rear 17/5

Tires: Bridgestone BT 003 front 17/120 rear 17/150

Brakes: Stock other than the front EBC 320mm rotor and relocation bracket

Gearing: 13 front "stock" 47 and 42 rear(depends on how fast I need to go?)

Kickstand : 2012 630 SMR (Bolts right up).


Conclusion: I have been racing Supermoto off and on for the past 5+ years for fun (amateur/novice).
Our tracks got smaller as did the entries, so I sold my 07 510 SMR and used the $$$ to
trick-out the 250. My lap times are faster because the power-band is much more
manageable for me (with the 6 speed/compression breaking, X-light bike). I don't think more
brake is needed, same goes with big fat rear tires.

Side-Note: Kyle it took 3 months to get the Marchesnis from Joe (3 weeks was the quote) . QTM is
US importer for Marchesni, I was told, after a month of waiting they were out of
stock. My wheels were built a month after I ordered them in Italy. I ordered a 4.5 rear to
run a 150 and Joe/QTM took it upon themselves ???(because I said I will be racing it) to ship a 5". I have never seen them "on the race track, on a bike like mine" to make that call, WTF ?

 

[joedirt]

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My 2011 TE/TXC/SMR 250

List of Parts for the SM conversion for street and track/racing. Shop pricing ???

Wheels: Marchesni front 17/3.5 rear 17/5

Tires: Bridgestone BT 003 front 17/120 rear 17/150

Brakes: Stock other than the EBC 320mm rotor and relocation bracket

Gearing: 13 front "stock" 47 and 42 rear(depends on how fast I need to go?)

Kickstand : 2012 630 SMR (Bolts right up).


Conclusion: I have been racing Supermoto off and on for the past 5+ years for fun (amateur/novice).
Our tracks got smaller as did the entries, so I sold my 07 510 SMR and used the $$$ to
trick-out the 250. My lap times are faster because the power-band is much more
manageable for me (with the 6 speed/compression breaking, X-light bike). I don't think more
brake is needed, same goes with big fat rear tires.

Side-Note: Kyle it took 3 months to get the Marchesnis from Joe (3 weeks was the quote) . QTM is
US importer for Marchesni, I was told, after a month of waiting they were out of
stock. My wheels were built a month after I ordered them in Italy. I ordered a 4.5 rear to
run a 150 and Joe/QTM took it upon themselves (because I said I will be racing it) to ship a
5". I have never seen them "on the race track, on a bike like mine" to make that call, WTF ?

We need more pics of the bike.

 

[510 SM SC]

We need more pics of the bike.

Joe, the site would not allow me to post the big pic. The pic above is of me @ 51yrs landing my first
triple !!! I am an amateur/novice and should not attempt that again??? Big Fun !!! Need to go racing
more for pics.

Ridding for 45 years and loving it.....

#510 SMUSA

 

[510 SM SC]

2 hours,3 beers and some dog treats, it takes to swap the SM setup to dirt. So I had to swap the front brake relocation bracket and fender, kick stand, chain and rear disk to the dirt wheels.

Planing to ride the High Sierras next week, mount Tom fire look-out etc...

 

[tc450sumo]

If anyone interested selling my alpina tubless wheels with discs sprocket and a brembo front caliper mount for 320mm disc, but am from europe...

 

[MorrisBetter]

The stock Husky wheels from an SM should be easy to find and bolt right up. Verify that they are compatible with the 310. I bought mine from a guy in LA for $600 after looking for about a week. I used the stock Husky parts (SM rotors, 610 SM kickstand, etc), and put the Conti SM rubber on. Warp-9 provided the front rotor adapter. Call them and ask for Kevin. He knew exactly what I needed. A 14t CSS and 42 in back works great with a 510. A 250 may need a few more teeth in back or a 13 in front. I can do the swap from dirt to tarmac in about an hour.

It does everything I ask it to do and behaves nicely. I routinely best the liter class sport bikes on my home road. You won't believe how far you can push a bike like this in the turns. It will feel a little snakey until the tires get scrubbed in. After that, crazy fun...

Here's the result of my conversion.