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Petition for urgent ECU/MAP update - Husqvarna 650 Random Low Speed Stall

Unfortunately in Italy nothing moves.
My dealer said that BMW washes his hands and does not provide for any new Husqvarna ECU mapping. And Husqvarna in turn puts the blame on BMW. I do not think anyone will move to solve this problem. I am very pissed off
 
I'm no lawyer but if someone gets killed heaven forbid something will happen. A class action law suit more specifically money will adjust there awareness. How that is accomplished is through the court system.
 
megatiker75 said:
Unfortunately in Italy nothing moves.
My dealer said that BMW washes his hands and does not provide for any new Husqvarna ECU mapping. And Husqvarna in turn puts the blame on BMW. I do not think anyone will move to solve this problem. I am very pissed off
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I think you are dead on, they have both washed their hands of it and left the customer high and dry. I'll probably not buy either of their products going forward.

johnsweet said:
I'm no lawyer but if someone gets killed heaven forbid something will happen. A class action law suit more specifically money will adjust there awareness. How that is accomplished is through the court system.
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Correct. Might as well get on the list, make the issue relevant and hope for the best.
 
I am sure a lawyer could twist it around that the was fully aware of the faulty motorcycle and continued to ride the motorcycle. Therefore he willing placed his life in peril. There is always a devils advocate.
 
yes but it does not do it all the time, random stall, if your riding your placing your life in peril anyway
 
just signed the DOT petition as suggested, 2 actually. Outlining the potentially lethal safety issues with the TR. The 'death' stall, head shake, flawed airbox, any one of which could result in something undesirable if unresolved. It's easy peazy, just takes a minute or two and a positive step in effecting some action. Squeaky wheel gets the oil, 7 others registered under TR complaints thus far. If you value your bike, wife, life or hamster, i'd strongly encourage you to start squawking!
 
I too just submitted a safety-related complaint to DOT (NHTSA) regarding the intermittent low speed stall issue. I've only got 400 miles on the bike (2014) and it's occurred at least a half dozen times now, despite having the latest software update and TPS reset. Probably going the booster plug route...

I also highly recommend everyone address the hypersensitive kickstand issue by moving the spring attachment pin 5/8" forward (thanks BigDog). I recently fell victim this issue after leaning the bike over not realizing the kickstand had popped back up...saved the bike, but sacrificed my left hamstring.
 
I just returned my vehicle owner's questionnaire to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. I called the 1-888-327-4236 hotline www.nhtsa.dot.gov/hotline last week and talked to a nice lady about the dangerous random low speed stall situation. If enough owners do this then they will have to investigate. Hopefully others will do this before someone is killed. OZ and EU your on your own but I know you have recourse.
 
You know, if you consider all the models, there are probably more TE owners than there are TR owners. The TE models (at least the 449 and 511) all suffer from the same problem of ECU related random stall. Perhaps to get more traction on this petition, you should include all "Italian" Husqvarna models?
 
otxoa8 said:
I too just submitted a safety-related complaint to DOT (NHTSA) regarding the intermittent low speed stall issue. I've only got 400 miles on the bike (2014) and it's occurred at least a half dozen times now, despite having the latest software update and TPS reset. Probably going the booster plug route...

I also highly recommend everyone address the hypersensitive kickstand issue by moving the spring attachment pin 5/8" forward (thanks BigDog). I recently fell victim this issue after leaning the bike over not realizing the kickstand had popped back up...saved the bike, but sacrificed my left hamstring.
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Just grind a little of the constraining metal so it turns closer to the front .Few mm did it for me.No other changes necessay
 
This is re: the stalling problem I've been having since I bought the bike.

Model: Husqvarna TR650 Terra
Year: 2015
VIN: ZKH0H12ADEVxxxxxx
Owners name Deanna Vesco
Dealer name : RideMotorsports
Odometer reading: approx 4500
When did this problem first occur at approx 2000 miles, previously I had been having hesitation issues and stalling upon acceleration. Now I'm having random stalls while riding.
Numbers of random stalls to date (approx)>20
Number of times you been placed in dangerous situation >10

Brief comment (optional) I just placed a formal complaint with NHTSA in the US about this issue - that it be included in the September 2015 BMW recall of G650GS and DAkar model bikes with the same problem.
 
Here is a list of the complaint numbers easily found at NHTSA, details available to the public are in the attached file

1/ 10780424 - ZH0H12A6EV0 - Seatle
2/ 10730973 - ZKHOH12A9DV - Mt Desert
3/ 10622575 - WB10194098X - Mill Valley
4/ 10622566 - WB10194098X - Mill Valley
5/ 10621506 - ZKH0H12A9DV - Location Unk
6/ 10620773 - ZKH0H12A0DV - Ridgecrest
7/ 10617574 - ZKH0H12B1DV - Southern Pines
8/ 10616373 - ZKH0H12A2DV - Decatur
9/ 10630327 - ZKH0H12A7EV - Fayetteville

The complaint form for DOTARS Australia is
https://infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/complaints_recalls/vehicle_complaint_form.aspx
 

Attachments

johnsweet said:
I just returned my vehicle owner's questionnaire to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. I called the 1-888-327-4236 hotline www.nhtsa.dot.gov/hotline last week and talked to a nice lady about the dangerous random low speed stall situation. If enough owners do this then they will have to investigate. Hopefully others will do this before someone is killed. OZ and EU your on your own but I know you have recourse.
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push this and you will see a USA recall too. Lets get on this
 
johnsweet said:
push this and you will see a USA recall too. Lets get on this
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I just went to the NHTSA website and posted my complaint for the second time. I sent them the link about the Canadian recall also. On the website there's a place to search for complaints about your vehicle:http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchSafetyIssues I searched for the 2013 and 2014 TR650 and there were 17 complaints listed! Only 17 complaints! I even saw my old complaint I sent about a year ago. Can someone explain this to me? I thought we were gonna do this thing.
 
A quick check shows more complaints files back in 2014 are now visible on the NHTSA search system than appeared previously as well as some new ones

The level of complaints is on par with the numbers when we agitated re the 650GS BMW axle lugs breaking up and we achieved action back then

Now is the time for a US citizen to lodge an FOI request for all docs associated with the complaints and any action NHTSA has taken/proposes to take
 
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