single seat registration

[glitch_oz]

State Farm. That is my insurance company. Also, there is Farmers Insurance Company.

State Farm...that's the one! Compared to the mobs over here, found them a refreshing breeze to deal with....and one CAN actually wheel+deal with them...at least to a point.

Different over here!! Don't like me charging you full whack on both your bikes? (even though you can only ride one at a time!)
Shove off then....NEXT!
Same goes for the compulsory rego/ insurance...2 bikes = 2x full premiums! Same for the full comp insurance....and there's around $2000/year for 2 bikes registered and insured.

 

[SpittingCobra]

Mine is single rego, no change to the seat, just removed rear footpegs, done by the shop from new. This crap about modifying seat length is ridiculous, as if everyone's arse is the same size! You could argue that, as it is an adventure bike designed to handle rough terrain, you could be severely injured by modifying the seat from the original design. If a certifier gives you hassles, just go to another certifier.

 

[Tom Ruxton]

No need to modify seat anymore. just declare that it meets the standard.

Tom R

 

[Greg Jetnikoff]

Many dirt bikes have long seats and can get single seat reg as they are proscribed as a single seat by the manufacturer ( importer?). If it is fitted with passanger footpegs std then default dual seat reg appently. The Seat length was still in the legislation when I made mine single seat in 2013. That was in Townsville and there are only 3 certificate issuers for motorcycles and all of them insisted on the the seat length requirement. They did let me get away with the front bit saying it wasn't strictly a part of something that you could sit on. It may have changed since then. Sally's KTM I didn't need to check as the front and rear seats are separate and I just took the passenger one off and the front was way shorter than 50cm.
Thanks Glitz for the more complete explanation.

" you could be injured by modifying you seat"... I have been changing seats ( and everything else) on motorcycles for over 40 years and never even seen a single injury from a changed seat. Modifying almost everything else is more of a problem than modding you seat.

 

[Tom Ruxton]

You don't have to get a certificate anymore.
listen to what I am telling you. just front up at the registry put your hand on your heart and swear that it meets the regulation. Job done see ya later nobody checks.

I have just done mine I know this for fact

 

[Greg Jetnikoff]

Tom,
I makes sense really. Instant road tole reduction for no outlay. We changed Sally's to single in October last year and still had to get the Cert. Do you know when it changed and do you just fill out the single seat change form?

 

[SpittingCobra]

My point about not modifying seats is that dirt bikes and road legal trail bikes have long seats to provide some rider protection when descending a very steep hill. These are adventure bikes, designed for similar (although less extreme) off-road and shortening the seat could be argued to negate that design feature. I just compared the TR and "single-seater" KLX and both seats are 75cm.

 

[FreddoFrog]

Tom,
I makes sense really. Instant road tole reduction for no outlay. We changed Sally's to single in October last year and still had to get the Cert. Do you know when it changed and do you just fill out the single seat change form?

Just trawling through TMR web site, it appears that things changed on 1st July 2014.


Reclassification of modifications to change a motorbike’s seating capacity
From 1 July 2014 changes will commence that will mean that changes to a motorbike’s seating capacity will no longer need to be certified by an Approved Person and have a modification plate fitted.
For Approved Examiners, this will mean that when inspecting a motorbike, the seating capacity that must be recorded on the inspection certificate will be determined by two (2) specifications:
- Seat length: To be classed as a single seat vehicle, the upholstered part of the seat must be 500mm or less in length. If the bike has separate seat designed for use by a pillion this must be removed. If the seat is longer than 500mm or a separate pillion seat is fitted, the vehicle must be classed as a two seat vehicle; and
- Pillion foot pegs: To be classed as a single seat vehicle, any foot pegs designed for use by a pillion passenger must be removed. If any pillion foot pegs are fitted, the vehicle must be classed as a two seat vehicle.
For further information about determining motorbike seating capacity, refer to the [COLOR=rgb(0.000000%, 0.000000%, 100.000000%)]Vehicle Standards Notification [/COLOR]page on the Transport and Main Roads website.

This is from http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/busind/accreditations/approvedinspectionstation/aisinfosheet10.pdf

 

[FreddoFrog]

I just went through the paperwork and I got my NC700 done 17th June under the old system, I could have save myself some dollars by waiting a couple of weeks!

 

[rajavw]

Do any of you want to sell a Right REAR footpeg?

 

[Nick780]

Do any of you want to sell a Right REAR footpeg?

Yours break too?

 

[rajavw]

Yours break too?

Yes SirEEE Bob!

I reckoned that an Aussie bloke may want to part with a peg, especially after paying Rego as a Single Seater.

 

[kiwiape]

yep mine is single seat reg. I got mine reg from the start ...Thankfully. Had to cut the seat down ( which I can do myself). THAT IS THE FOAM NOT THE BASE. Just pull the rear staples and cut the foam. Because of the regs requiring the seat to be no longer than 50cm in Qld. You may also have to cut the front pointless ( pun) pointy bits off the base as well to make is short enough but don't remove the locating tab. I have a Seat concepts foam on it now. You also have to remove the rear footpegs and either cut the supports orr or render them inoperable ( a poprivet is sufficient). Mine has a rack attached to the peg points, so looks like there isn't any place for the pegs. I made a carbon seat cover for the back to pretty it up a bit. I have to make a new one for the new seat.
Should be easy enough to get the machinery certificate in Cairns. My girlfriend got her Suzuki sv650 single seat reged in Cairns and it was half the price of Townsville ( Townsville was about $120for my BMW, but I went to the most expensive placeby mistake). Saved that first registration as it is about half dual seat reg.\

This is what it looked like just after I did it. The bike looks completely different now wit the single exhaust on the left and Safari tanks and Saet concepts seat.

Hi Greg, where did you get that exhaust shield..?

 

[vodka]

I would consider ,given that off road i spend so much time standing on the pegs to minimize the seat into a tankbag type thing and declare the bike a "no seat bike".
What would that do to the costs?