• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

SWM 650 -> The 630 returns!

I hope SWM understands "adventure" in a similar vein to CCM - I am really impressed by the CCM450. Fingers crossed that the upcoming SWM adventure model is a lightweight highly dirt-capable bike that updates the 630 - with a reinforced rear subframe, highly tunable suspension, higher ground clearance, multiple EFI maps, high spec components, and loads of options out of the box - larger fuel tank, cush hub, crash protection, comfy saddle, bright headlamps, soft luggage, taller screen... In other words, a bike that makes potential 690 or CCM buyers take a second look, and that existing 610 owners feel thrilled to upgrade to. That would be awesome!

But I suspect "adventure" will end up meaning a road-oriented, lower-price, lower-spec, heavier model, more of a cheaper BMW. As Sibirsky suggests (here) there is a split in the direction of adventure motorcyclists. What do others think? Anyone with insight into how we might encourage SWM to produce a kick-ass Adv model?
 
JonDirt said:
I hope SWM understands "adventure" in a similar vein to CCM - I am really impressed by the CCM450. Fingers crossed that the upcoming SWM adventure model is a lightweight highly dirt-capable bike that updates the 630 - with a reinforced rear subframe, highly tunable suspension, higher ground clearance, multiple EFI maps, high spec components, and loads of options out of the box - larger fuel tank, cush hub, crash protection, comfy saddle, bright headlamps, soft luggage, taller screen... In other words, a bike that makes potential 690 or CCM buyers take a second look, and that existing 610 owners feel thrilled to upgrade to. That would be awesome!

But I suspect "adventure" will end meaning a road-oriented, lower-price, lower-spec, heavier model, more of a cheaper BMW. As Sibirsky suggests (here) there is a split in the direction of adventure motorcyclists. What do others think? Anyone with insight into how we might encourage SWM to produce a kick-ass Adv model?
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Nope. Expect true adventure. No "marketing adventure". :P That's all I can say for now!
 
Erik Italhusky said:
Nope. Expect true adventure. No "marketing adventure". :P That's all I can say for now!
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You, sir, are a despicable tease.
So we all just have to sit back and wait for the previews to end before we see the feature presentation? :popcorn:

Sometimes I miss my 950 Adventure, sometimes I want a Moto Guzzi Stelvio, sometimes the 690 Enduro R seems like a good idea, and now the possibility of a Husky-derived Adventure bike... oh, the suspense...
 
JonDirt said:
Fingers crossed that the upcoming SWM adventure model is a lightweight highly dirt-capable bike that updates the 630 - with a reinforced rear subframe, highly tunable suspension, higher ground clearance, multiple EFI maps, high spec components, and loads of options out of the box - larger fuel tank, cush hub, crash protection, comfy saddle, bright headlamps, soft luggage, taller screen...
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I'd love those, but i'm only worrien about the weight, even in stock form the RS is heavier then a 690, and even the ktm is'nt that light in the woods. But of course, if you ad aal of those upgrades to the 690 it too will gain weight, and both still beigin LOADS lighter than the current advbikes.
 
dudeonweb said:
I'd love those, but i'm only worrien about the weight, even in stock form the RS is heavier then a 690, and even the ktm is'nt that light in the woods. But of course, if you ad aal of those upgrades to the 690 it too will gain weight, and both still beigin LOADS lighter than the current advbikes.
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Agreed. The CCM is 130kg, 286lbs for the base bike. Includes a large tank, but smaller engine. Still, a good number to aim for!
 
A German magazine Motorrad claims that the RS has 57 hp, and only the gearbox and engine block are maid in China. Explains the narrower ratio, but hopefully a quality product, as it is one of the most important pieces of a dual-sport.
 
dudeonweb said:
Yep, but we don't get any CCms here in Finland, anf they would be very expensive. RS looks really nice!
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Availability is an issue, yes. But the price comparison is not straightforward. The magic sauce of the CCM is that it comes setup for long distance touring. If this is the type of riding you do, then the standard large capacity fuel tank, bash plate, tall front screen, luggage-capable subframe, soft saddle, and weight of 286 lbs are all very attractive features included in the base price. You can of course mod the RS to include all these, but add up the time and money spent and the price difference becomes quite small I suspect. (also those third-party add-ons never recover their cost when you resell the bike).

I remain very excited by the RS... its fantastic to bring the 610/630 platform back to life! I'm curious how many of the 630 extras will fit on the RS - does the Safari tank fit? The Hyde bashplate? Did they fix the issue with the rear subframe? Eager to hear from new owners.
 
JonDirt said:
Availability is an issue, yes. But the price comparison is not straightforward. The magic sauce of the CCM is that it comes setup for long distance touring. If this is the type of riding you do, then the standard large capacity fuel tank, bash plate, tall front screen, luggage-capable subframe, soft saddle, and weight of 286 lbs are all very attractive features included in the base price. You can of course mod the RS to include all these, but add up the time and money spent and the price difference becomes quite small I suspect. (also those third-party add-ons never recover their cost when you resell the bike).
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True, adding those things would add up, weight and cost wise.

JonDirt said:
I remain very excited by the RS... its fantastic to bring the 610/630 platform back to life! I'm curious how many of the 630 extras will fit on the RS - does the Safari tank fit? The Hyde bashplate? Did they fix the issue with the rear subframe? Eager to hear from new owners.
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Yeah me too, they are changing a few things anyway, so hopefully they fix the know problems. But we have to wait and see!

Erik Italhusky said:
It ain't 2016 yet is it? :P
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SWM said in a facebook post that it will have ABS in 2017, and coming to USA in 2016.
Info down in the comments.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1039015489443171&id=886079571403431

Any of you who know Italian, see anything else interesting in that post?
 
dudeonweb said:
Any of you who know Italian, see anything else interesting in that post?
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IMHO there are two things that are worthy of remark:

1-A user asked whether they carried out reliability and durability tests, showing interest especially for the engine. SWM answered that they spent and they are still spending a lot of time for those tests, involving both the engine and the rest of the motorcycle.

2-In Italy and probably in other European countries there are some features of the vehicle stated on the registration and the measure of the tires is one of them. When you use your bike on public roads the cops can make you pull over and demand the registration; if the measures of the tires don't match, you're in troubles. So, those people who want to use the bike for both enduro and supermoto like those bikes which have a double homologation: 21-18 and 17-17. SWM wrote that, so far, the double homologation is not available and that, since the brakes and the forks are different, too, it's unlikely that they will ever get it.
 
Theo said:
IMHO there are two things that are worthy of remark:

1-A user asked whether they carried out reliability and durability tests, showing interest especially for the engine. SWM answered that they spent and they are still spending a lot of time for those tests, involving both the engine and the rest of the motorcycle.

2-In Italy and probably in other European countries there are some features of the vehicle stated on the registration and the measure of the tires is one of them. When you use your bike on public roads the cops can make you pull over and demand the registration; if the measures of the tires don't match, you're in troubles. So, those people who want to use the bike for both enduro and supermoto like those bikes which have a double homologation: 21-18 and 17-17. SWM wrote that, so far, the double homologation is not available and that, since the brakes and the forks are different, too, it's unlikely that they will ever get it.
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1 Great to hear

2 A shame, but at least for me, not a huge deal.
 
Some movement in Australia by the looks of it, from the website BikePoint. Bikes expected to land by late this year, hopefully including the 650.

Mojo Motorcycles to import SWM
The rapidly expanding local company will take on the Italian brand and market a range of enduro, supermoto and classic models

Melbourne-based motorcycle importer Mojo Motorcycles has added Italian marque SWM to its burgeoning local portfolio, with the first shipment of bikes to arrive late in 2015.

Mojo Motorcycles Director Michael Poynton is thrilled about the relaunch of SWM, and believes the model range will sit perfectly in the Australian market. He said: “SWM is a good fit for Mojo Motorcycles. We are a relatively young but progressive company and we see the relaunch of SWM bringing a certain amount of energy and excitement to the market.

“SWM’s blend of heritage and youthfulness backed by solid Italian design and styling will be a formidable combination and we want to share that with Australian motorcyclists. We’re confident the model range will fit the Australian market well and the fact we can offer SWM at affordable price points makes the brand strong right off the bat.
“SWM CEO Ampelio Macchi was chief engineer at Husqvarna developing the bikes of motocross world champion Alessio Chiodi and enduro world champions Anders Erikson, Kari Tianen and Australia’s own Stefan Merriman. This only inspires confidence."

Mojo is yet to announce its final model range, of which there are seven to choose from: three enduro, two supermoto and two classic

SWM was established in 1971 by two friends and fellow off-road racers who built their own two-stroke motorcycles in Milan, Italy. SWM’s international debut was in Spain in 1971, during a race of the European Championship in which Pierluigi Rottigni finished second in the 125 class and Giuseppe Signorelli finished third in the 100 class. The company went on to produce a range of motorcycles until it ceased production in 1984.

In 2014 the former Husqvarna factory in Lombadia, Italy was purchased and SWM announced its return at the 72nd EICMA show in Milan.

For more information on SWM, click HERE.
Published : Monday, 3 August 2015
 
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