• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

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Te310 starter and pinion body distroyed. How?

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Gareth chabot

Husqvarna
AA Class
After riding yesterday I found a pool of oil under my 2012 te310. I found the starter motor cracked and bent at an angle. The pinion body is completely broken where it is mounted on the engine and pushed out about 3/4", which caused the break and angle on the starter and sorces of oil leak. I can't figure out how this happened, there's no sign of a stick or rock doing the damage. I wonder if some inner component failed and pushed the inner starter shaft out. Any thoughts out there on what might have caused this?
 
I think without seeing and pulling the flywheel it will be hard to say. My guesses would be a failure of the sprang behind the flywheel, or possibly the woodruff key sheared on the crank and the flywheel spun along with the ring gear.

Take a few pics.
 
View attachment 55260View attachment 55261 Normally should I see the woodruff key and be able to pull it out? Right now all I see is a small empty square hole. I need to get my hands on a puller so I can look into this further.

I wondered out kickback. I did experience some while kicking after the starter went out.

Thanks for the input, I'd hate to replace all these parts without finding the root cause. Also, concerned about damage to the engine running with little to no oil. Major meltdown on the stator.
 
The stator" looks OK to me? but its not in my hands. That black is a coating they use I don't think it's melted. It looks like the worm gear is chewed up. I can't see the case but I think you said the starter cracked. Were the two bolts that hold the head of the starter into the bike bike loose?

I'm guessing the sprang is locked up. Can you spin that ring gear behind the flywheel (independent of the flywheel) with your hand clockwise? If not the sprang is locked up. You will need to pull the flywheel and see if you can pry them apart. Then replace the sprang and a new ring gear set. Depending on how bad the flywheel is grooved you may need that as well and a starter. It's 700.00 worth of parts if you need it all. I've recently go thru it.

You can put a flywheel puller off ebay for a bit less then the dealer or from zipty. You would also need the tool to hold the flywheel when putting it back. Thats a zip ty only part or borrow one from a friend.
 
thanks, I feel better about the stator now, not cracked, the black goo just looked out of place to me.

The flywheel looks good and the ring gear is chewed up, but does spin freely.

I've ordered the puller from zipty last night, was wondering if the install tool is a must. thanks again.

The starter bolts were all loose, one was bent and broke off in the engine housing when I tried to remove it. The starter mounting brackets are broken at both ends.
 
If you are worried about a low oil condition, just pull the valve cover and look at the caps on the camshaft. These do not have bearings in them, just float directly metal to metal. Those starter gears have always been an Achilles heel to that engine. New gears from the dealer will be heat treated and coated.
 
Well the ring gear set I think was out of stock last I looked but they aren't on back order and shouldn't be hard to get. When, if you pull the flywheel. The zip type isn't a must have to putting it back on but it sure as hell makes it easier. you need to keep it from spinning and it's about 70nm or around that. I've put the bolt on with an air gun on some bikes but it's not best to do it that way.

If the fly wheel looks OK. I would still replace the sprang. They run about 80.00 and can look deceivingly OK.

When you get your list together of whats needed from the dealer a few bits that people forget to replace and I think worth the few dollars are new woodruff keys. Ones on the start pinion shaft and the other on the crank. The start has a gasket, where it fits into the case and I'd replace it. It's got a pin hole that lines up with case to allow oil to flow. It's important to put it on correctly. I would also buy some Loctite 609 Retaining compound to use on the crank before the flywheel goes back.

Other then that if you want to see some pictures look though my past posts. I've done the job in the past and posted a good deal of photo's
 
You are a lucky man that boss the front bearing on the pinion gear rides in is not cracked!

Looks like you just need starter gears.

I'm going to guess you may find your sprag stuck to the flywheel. It is supposed to slip in the reverse direction and if it doesn't it might push the gear straight back like this.

Husky sells a replacement kit and actually recalled those parts a while back.
 
Good point Rich. Check out those needle bearings that pressed into that case make sure they look OK! I can tell you the ring/pinion sets are in thin supply right now. Back ordered from Husky USA and I don't think Halls has any. Bob @ Central Jersey did when I was there picking up a sprang this week.

I'm finally taking Rich's advice and only using the starter when the bike is COLD!
 
need2boat said:
I can tell you the ring/pinion sets are in thin supply right now. Back ordered from Husky USA and I don't think Halls has any. Bob @ Central Jersey did when I was there picking up a sprang this week.

I'm finally taking Rich's advice and only using the starter when the bike is COLD!
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thats not good at all, still lots of these bikes out there.
 
I know Motosport isn't a site sponsor but they now sell italian husky parts. I have placed a few orders just to see how they are with getting stuff. Both orders i placed were shipped within a week.

Hall's is still probably the best. Lots of stuff in stock.
 
The "story" I got was Husy will restock just waiting on a shipment. Not trying to start a scare, but you point is one to consider. Toy Tech rebuilt my engine last winter and I had to do a LOT of calling and searching to find everything. The real issue will be the early x-light black heads. I had a hell of a time finding vales. also noticed the 12's don't use the flywheel as the 2013-14's.

I put thru an order when Motosports.com was having 25% off dealer parts and everything but the ring/pinion came back in stock so that's good and they are out there, just need to call around. Thing that kind of sucks is most of the time you just need ring on the flywheel. The longer pinion is fine. They used to sell them apart but with the upgrade it's sold as one.

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I have exactly the same issue. Pinion housing pushed out ect. Ran the bike on kick only while waiting for new parts to arrive, but on several occasions it would kick back almost to the point that it felt that it broke my foot. This is the issue I think is that engine timing is to advanced. On strip down the woodruff key was intact. New up grade pinion gear set, starter and housing arrived and fitted. The bike started great I thought, first run out had a backfire and it locked up the sprag and broke woodruff key. Would like to know how to check ignition timing as I dont have access to ibeat or what else could be causing the kickback. Any info would be gratefully recieved.:)
 
Ring/pinion and starter type issues I can help with and I recently picked up a used ibeat cable but I really don't have the experience. Maybe call call a dealer I know the few in my area Central Jersey and Toy Tech are good with phone help.

When you kick the bike do you set up the kicker to TDC like you would on an older high compression bike? I find the occasional is normal depending where the kicker is in the stroke. If I take the few seconds to set the kicker up. I can get it in one kick when the valves are adjusted. If I just kick like a 2 stoke. It's a little more hit or miss.

I'm waiting on the ring set for my bike and should have back together shortly. I had started a hot start thread with pics and tips on doing the job I'll be updating it on the latest issues.
 
Humm, if you're getting it to TDC. I can't really help. That's not a road I've traveled so far.. . maybe start a thread on it as I don't think it's related to the sprang or the flywheel side.
 
It appears Gareth that you and I could have the same issue. My bike has had the power up kit fitted and was wondering if the mapping for the standard TE and the kit are the same or do they re-flash the ECU for it.
 
Just found out previous owner had a txc kit fitted so need to check on the ECU its got and if I,m right I am sure it has a orange injector on it, which is supposed to be the 12port one not to sure on this. But still could be a mapping issue of timing being to far advanced. Pending who fitted it, as looking at the TPS it appears to be set at where it was set at the factory assuming the white marker on the body and theTPS
 
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