• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

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te310 tires Pirelli Scorpion XC MH???

Fantic Motor made a liar of me, their all new Yamaha WR250F engined E1 bike comes with the WEC standard 90/90-21 front and comes equipped with the 140/80-18 big fat carcass E2-E3 rear tire. So it aint all cut and dried for tire sizing even from the oems.
 
Tinken said:
Down the occasional sand wash or sandy road, sure, especially if skilled. Occasionally I see some of the old guys racing our desert sand with trails tires, its rare. But not for riding endless miles in the sand dunes haha. But if you are sure you can handle it, put a mt43 on your 449 and you can ride with me to the top of the 18 story dunes. :thumbsup:

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Your right, I give. We didn't ride with and be taught by a world class rider in both Dakar and Baja, we must have been imagining the sand dunes we were in, and one certainly cant ride dunes with trials tires.
I and 16 others only imagined that we were actually able to do things we didn't think possible the day before.
Unfortunately Out...
 
McKay said:
Your right, I give. We didn't ride with and be taught by a world class rider in both Dakar and Baja, we must have been imagining the sand dunes we were in, and one certainly cant ride dunes with trials tires.
I and 16 others only imagined that we were actually able to do things we didn't think possible the day before.
Unfortunately Out...
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don't be upset, just different opinions. Take from it what you like and disregard things you already know. I don't think Tinken is trying to be an ass just posting his feelings. As for this topic I literally know nothing. My limited time in sand i just lean back, pin it and hope for the best :D those Dakar guys are :eek: in the sand.
 
No, my purpose in this forum is definitely not to piss off McKay haha. It is to offer my opinion and advice to Rizzkid on tire size to be used for sugar sand and the occasional pavement use. My personal forte is sand trails, roads, race tracks and dunes (open desert). Although setting up the 511 for dune hopping has posed a challenge as of late. haha

Yes the pros can ride the dunes on 4" wide trails tires, they are pros. I have had trials tires on my older Huskys and they worked fine for me. But I am not going to offer advice to Rizz to use a trails tire in the soft sand. Quads and ATV's fly through the sand because they have low weight per square inch on fluffy tires. Wider tires help, but that doesn't mean you can't do it on a thinner tire. My recommendation is to use a 90 width front and a 130-140 rear, sit back a little, don't be afraid of the gas and have a blast! Check out Kelly's steering stabilizer, it will help too. :thumbsup:
 
Ok finally ordered xcmh front and rear. 120 rear. I have a longer chain to go with a larger sprocket so i can move the wheel further away from the mud flap.
thanks for everyones comments. ready to hit the trails now with confidence
 
You're gonna love the XCMH 120, here's a pic of the one I got and ran on my TE450, it was a great tire, allowed me to be a little quicker in the single track, faster directional changes, no noticeable difference on amount of traction from a 140 XCMH. if you want a lower profile, shorter chain 120, look at the Dunlop D606 120, on the end, see how much shorter it is?

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shilo020 said:
OlderHuskyRider, Can you list again what size those tires were marked?
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All the tires in the pic are 120 x 18 tires, the yellow number on the tires is the actual width of the carcass.

Here are the tires in the pic, a study I did on 120 tires, the cost is MSS with a 10% discount coupon

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Don't discount the Michelin AC10 from it's appearance in the pic above, it's just radically different in its unmounted form. It shrunk down to a carcass width of 106mm and took on a wonderful round profile (the mounted AC10 in pic 2) which is gonna do great for me in the tight stuff, faster directional changes. The used tire in the pic is a Kings 963 DOT 120 tire and I was very happy with that tire for $60, it held up well over 1000 miles.

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Great stuff OHR on how much the tires differ. A 120 pirelli scorpion pro looked so small mounted compaired to a 120 dunlop mx51. I'll measure my 110 motoz i/t mounted and post the width. You.re measuring straight accross at the body?
 
shilo020 said:
Great stuff OHR on how much the tires differ. A 120 pirelli scorpion pro looked so small mounted compaired to a 120 dunlop mx51. I'll measure my 110 motoz i/t mounted and post the width. You.re measuring straight accross at the body?
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Yes, I just clamped my micrometer in between a row of knobbies, to measure the actual carcass, and found the 106mm on the AC10. I wish I would have been measuring the carcass when the tire is mounted on all 11 tires I've had on the bike!
 
Thanks for the info guys. I am only concerned with total width of actual knobs and actual diameter after mounting. The pics are great Thank You!
The tire manufacturers should only use knobbies as width indicators for dirtbike tires and street tires should use carcass widths.
Cant wait to get my new shoes and start really riding.
 
I'm sold on rear trials tires after watching a buddy who recently bought a used WR 450 that came with one, he followed threw behind me threw the rocky sandy loose steep hillclimb stuff with no issues at all !
 
I'm running the Pirelli Scorpion Pro FIM:
90/90 - 21 M/C 54R M+S
120/90 - 18 M/C 65M M+S
These are DOT tires. While I'm maybe an advanced novice rider, I've found them good for the desert riding I do. The knobs are small, so I'd say these are very "off road" focused: I have found them slippery on the street and would only advise them for short & careful connector road type runs.
 
vintageveloce said:
I'm running the Pirelli Scorpion Pro FIM:
90/90 - 21 M/C 54R M+S
120/90 - 18 M/C 65M M+S
These are DOT tires. While I'm maybe an advanced novice rider, I've found them good for the desert riding I do. The knobs are small, so I'd say these are very "off road" focused: I have found them slippery on the street and would only advise them for short & careful connector road type runs.
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I also found the Pro FIMs to be slippery on the street. Also, the 21" front tire was very fragile in the rocks of southern New Mexico (see pic below), I won't run Pro FIMs again, I wasn't real thrilled with them in the dirt or street. I prefer the XCMH 120 or 140 width and the MT21 front tire. I have 2 MT21 fronts and 2 140 XCMHs in my garage right now..

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I think the side blocks on the FIM Pro are just too small to offer enough surface area for street cornering. I've got a couple hundred desert miles on mine and they are looking very good, but again I am a very mild rider.
 
From the left, Starcross 110, 120, far right is the Michelin Desert Race Tire 140. The race tire wasn't much bigger and will last up to 4000 miles.

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OlderHuskyRider said:
Also, the 21" front tire was very fragile in the rocks of southern New Mexico (see pic below), I won't run Pro FIMs again, I wasn't real thrilled with them in the dirt or street. I prefer the XCMH 120 or 140 width and the MT21 front tire. I have 2 MT21 fronts and 2 140 XCMHs in my garage right now..
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I had a similar experience with the Pro FIM front on my 610. I really liked it in the softer stuff (NJ sand & loam riding), but one day of riding gravel fire roads and rocky singletrack in PA tore half of the side knobs off. Since I use my bikes in both types of terrain regularly, I can't tolerate a tire that self destructs in rock. Too bad, because the tire was pretty good otherwise.

I have a XCMH rear on my DRZ (Colorado bike), and it's been satisfactory so far. I used it a little bit in Moab and a bunch of miles in baja at the 1000 this year pre-running. It seems pretty tough and hooks up fine. I will note that I'm not super picky about rear tires, as long as they last and hook up ok. I am much pickier about fronts...
 
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