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Today I came close to severe injury... maybe worse. I think I'm done with dirt.

krieg

Husqvarna
Pro Class
Just got home from the emergency room. Took the day off to ride. Loaded up the TC 250 and met a friend at some privately owned land about an hour from the house.

I swapped bikes with my buddy (2008 CRF 250 X). I met a tree and the tree didn't like me. Thank God for good gear. I was knocked out for several minutes and taken to the emergency room in an ambulance.

This scared the shit out of me and made me realize that I might be too old to be in the woods on a high-performance bike. In addition to being on heavy pain meds, I'm in a serious soul searching mode.
 
You just need to learn to control your wrist. Plus you were on an unfamiliar bike. Riding at the limit of your skill.

People think it's safer to ride dirt because dirt is softer than pavement. Well, as you discovered, trees aren't. And rocks aren't either. And people get out in the dirt and ride like they're invincible. I know WAY more people that have been in the ER because of dirt riding compared to street riding. Unfortunately, I knew people that died doing both. And most of them were really good riders.

I could get run over crossing the street. I live in the flight path for SJC. A plane could crash into my house. I'd never see THAT coming. I could die riding a bike. I could die of some disease or a million other things. I'm not going to hide in a cave. I'm going to LIVE my life. But I'm not going to be irresponsible about it, either. I'm going to ride smart. I'm not going to pretend I'm Ricky Carmichael or Casey Stoner. But that doesn't mean I can't go out and have tons of fun. When you ease it back, you can enjoy WHERE you are instead of just riding. Riding at race pace you miss so much. When you ease it back, you get to enjoy everything. And your ride isn't over as quickly, either.

I'm glad you're ok. And look at it this way. You messed up his bike, not yours! ;)
 
I ricocheted off a few trees a couple months ago and had some thinking to do as well. My conclusions were as follows; I'm not ready to go home and sit in a rocking chair and wait to die. Riding a street bike is way too dangerous for me. I can't ride like I did when I was 16 without paying a big price.

I decided to ride at about 60% of the pace I'm capable of and try to be technically smooth and balanced to minimize risk and maximize my fun. I bought a trials bike to work on my skills and try to make riding a test of skill rather than bravery.

I hope you are doing well now and find the balance that works for you.
 
How old?

Probably a good idea at some point to ditch the 450 or 510's and go to a 310 or 250.

I don't identify with tree riders much being out here in CA where there's plenty of areas that are more or less tree-less but still interesting.
 
I'm glad to have dirt bikes. I ride everything from an 85 CC bike up to a 450. I recently bought a beast of a bike, the WR300:love:.

I have been injured too. Snapped my right femur, broke my hip, broke my arm, broke my ribs. I used to race and go fast. I was young then. Now I'm old and slow and really afraid of getting hurt. I can't take those crashes anymore, and so try not to....and have a really good time on my dirt bikes!:thumbsup:
 
I survived 25 years of racing powerboats, gave it because I was tired of traveling all the time(and the Hooters money finally ran out after 10 years!), but I still ride dirt bikes because I need the outlet. 3 years ago I met with a tree and shattered my femur and started riding again after a year of recovery. I just love the feel of a dirt bike and really have a hard time imagining living life without having this hobby. I have learned to ride with a little in reserve to be on the safe side and it is hard to swallow my pride and not try and outrun everyone but I realize it is important to be safe because I can't stand to give up raceboats and bikes. I realize it is possible to break bones and get concussions and except for extreme cases that is about all that will happen and you will heal up. I don't ride on the street because the chances for a more serious injury or fatality is high percentage.
Krieg, you are my friend and I hope you stick around, throttle back a little, just enjoy the ride.
Gary
 
Welcome back :) ... There is nothing that says you have to come back after being knocked out ...

Its all risk ... Living is risky in many different ways... Add a motorcycle and risk of physical injury goes up ...Add speed to the equation and risk levels rise ... Somewhere out there, the risk turns into deadly risk ...That's life as we humans do it ... Be a risk manager ...

Just got home from the emergency room. Took the day off to ride. Loaded up the TC 250 and met a friend at some privately owned land about an hour from the house.

I swapped bikes with my buddy (2008 CRF 250 X). I met a tree and the tree didn't like me. Thank God for good gear. I was knocked out for several minutes and taken to the emergency room in an ambulance.

This scared the shit out of me and made me realize that I might be too old to be in the woods on a high-performance bike. In addition to being on heavy pain meds, I'm in a serious soul searching mode.
 
If you would have stayed on your husky and not the Honda you wouldn't have crashed! Nothing handles like a husky!

Really though, glad your ok. You do NEED to keep riding though. Otherwise you will gain weight, loose ambition and find things that will "buy time".

Live life(maybe a little slower) don't "buy time".
 
Your confidence has been shaken, don't rush your judgement too quickly. Having practiced crashing several times myself I have had the same thoughts. So I have returned since I have yet to perfect my technique....

Get back on that horse as quickly as possible to show who's the boss
 
Lately, I haven't been riding dirt. For about a month. I want to, but I seem to have lost some motivation. I don't really have a riding buddy, so that's part of it, but the main part is that a friend of mine died in a street riding accident three weeks ago. His name was Gary Jaehne. Google for him. He's not super famous like some MotoGP rider or anything, but he wrote two books on sport bike riding techniques and was a common site in the Santa Cruz mountains on the weekends when he wasn't doing AFM racing. I rode with him maybe a couple dozen times over the last 5 years or so that I knew him and I attended both sessions of a suspension class that he taught. He was a very positive guy and not quick to judge. He was analytical and in this age where online flame wars happen everywhere, you never saw GaryJ resort to insults. He was a Technical Writer by trade and a former marine. This Sunday, I will escort his ashes to Pescadero State Beach for a Celebration of Life ceremony. I assume his wife will spread his ashes into the wind and sea.

I didn't know him as well as some, but I knew him well enough. He will be missed. I visited the corner where he crashed, I looked at the lines scored in the pavement and the black marks that I think were from frame sliders. They weren't on a line that he would have taken. It was a simple, easy set of S turns just before the town of Loma Mar on Pescadero Creek Rd. It didn't make any sense. But it happened. And a fine rider and man is gone.

I haven't thought twice about throwing a leg over a bike, I've been riding so long it's part of my blood. But it's had an effect on me. He's the second excellent rider I've known that had died in a freak accident in the last year and a half. A 31 year old man died when his KTM 2 stroke's throttle stuck. He ran into a tree. This guy knew how to handle that kind of thing, so you know it happened at just the wrong moment. The Perfect Storm, so to speak. I think that's kind of what happened to Gary. He said, when friends made it down the 70 foot cliff he went off, that he'd got a bad headshake that caused the accident. We could see no reason for it, except a slight rise. If he'd been going fast enough, he could have caught a little air with the front wheel, got it crooked and dropped it down, causing the headshake. But who knows? It doesn't make any difference. Two very good men are gone. And that has left a very big hole in me.

I want to take the Husky out and ride, but I'm at a cross roads. I'm a novice rider. I've ridden street for 30 years, but I wasn't allowed near a dirt bike when I was young. And at 19, when I started riding street, I didn't have much money. A dirt bike was a toy. A toy I couldn't afford. But a street bike was cheap and practical transportation. I got into dirt a couple years back because I got bit by the Adventure riding bug when on a three day street ride we got lost in an area with dirt roads all around us. They were easy, well graded roads for the most part, but it opened up a new world to me. I bought my F800GS so I could explore my world. Then I bought my TE610 to practice on and later the 310 because I wanted something lighter. I love all three of those bikes. But as a novice, I'm at the point where I'm doing the more difficult stuff for the first time. The risk of injury has never been greater. And sometimes I find it hard to go out and ride in the shadows of my fallen brothers. After all, it's not like I'm going to be doing black diamonds on an ADV bike anyways... But some aren't THAT bad, at least on a light bike. They're still very challenging for me. But the reality of an endo or a cliff dive are very real. I keep finding excuses not to do that stuff, even though it's about time I should.

As usual, it's 90% rider and 10% bike. That bike can do anything. I, on the other hand, sometimes seem almost scared of my own damn shadow. It's very frustrating. I'll never give up riding, of that I have no doubt. I'm just worried that I'll give up too soon on some things. I haven't reached a level of skill that I feel will allow me to go on a variety of events or ride with other folks and not be holding everyone up.

So it's not really my injury, although I did severely injure my ankle 18 months back (and it's still not fully healed), that has sent ripples through my riding, leaving me wondering wtf is going on.
 
I met Gary once many years ago when I worked at the Cycle Gear on Monterey Hwy right after he split a deer in half on his CB1. One cool dude for sure.

I've been known to take a month or longer off every year just because my mind isn't into riding as much, then my wife will tell me to GET OUT, so off I go. Whenever I have a bad get off, I need to get back on the bike as soon as possible, if the wounds let me. I have been lucky over the years that I haven't broken any bones riding. Both blown out knees still hurt come winter time, but I will not give up riding anytime soon. The huge scar on my right leg from my handle bar ripping a large hole still gives me a smile and a really good story.

I know my time is coming when I really get fubar'd up on the trail, so I TRY to ride within my limits. My problem is the rate of speed I am comfortable with will hurt me, and the trees that will stop my progress in a nano second. If I die riding my bike, then I will be happy, If I get eaten by a large cat on the trail, then I will be pissed.
 
I have seen a large cat on the trail... a mountain lion. And he was running away. Well, kinda across my path, but he wasn't chasing anything and he was hauling the mail. I think it was the bark of my trusty husky that scared him. :)

I'll get out and ride. But I dunno if I'm going to make the jump to the next level or not. I turn 50 in a few weeks. And I could be happy doing ADV riding. I'm not a trials rider. I don't feel the need to go out and punish myself when I ride like so many riders do. I don't feel the need to do the most absolute challenging and difficult stuff. I just don't give a shit. Never have. But there are a few notches I wouldn't mind putting in my belt first... It just won't kill me if that doesn't happen.

Those that constantly seek the edge are destined to go over it.
 
Those that constantly seek the edge are destined to go over it.
That is a great quote.

I have been seeing a lot of bobcats and bears lately up here in the hills. I had just seen my first mountain lion last week on one of my favorite ridges. He/she pounced over the road and stopped to watch me, and I had to stop and look from 50 feet away. It gave me the chills seeing a large kitty with a 5 foot long tail. I ride with my 40 chambered just in case, I doubt I would have enough time to unload.

I can't find many people who want to ride up here, so if you are in the area and want to explore we can. Sorry for the hijack
 
Yes, Most of us after a major crash=injury soul search about getting back on. I am 55 and had major bones broken etc. all my fault for sure:) , last week I was riding with a few buddies about 30 seconds from putting my bike back on the trailer and calling it a day I was turning left into the parking lot and one of the guys thought it would be wise-funny to speed up and go around me. Long story short I was almost at a complete stop and he nailed me while doing 35mph on the left side of my bike,me and my left leg. I was shocked to say the least, so while on the ground thinking WTF, I get up go help the other guy get his "ninja" off his legs. I had full gear,head to toes, he had just a chest protector and a helmet, he was road rashed all over and his chest protector looked like someone had taken a grinder to it. So, wear your gear regardless how hot it is or if your just going for a short ride. Also funny, the Husky had only grip - lever damage and some scratches. The ninja was all over the road in pieces. My back hurts like a MF'r but cant wait to hit the road again. So, heal up and get back on the bike and always use common sense because most of the injuries we suffer are our own fault:eek:(or at least in my case)
 
Heal up soon, Krieg. I hope the old thinker isn't too jostled up.

I have been doing a little soul searching, as well. My reality check was having to get knee surgery last week. My injury wasn't severe (torn meniscus), but since it happened, I have slowed significantly. I DON'T want a major ligament injury. I also don't want to maim myself doing this crazy hobby. I love riding dirt bikes more than anything except my family, so there is no way I'll ever become completely separated from these addictive little two wheelers. However, I think my quest for more speed has probably ended. It's time to accept that I'll be a mid-pack B rider indefinitely, and ride with a good 20% reserve.

These good intentions will probably go right out the window at my next hare scramble, cuz I'm stupid.
 
My trials bike has opened up an entirely new approach to riding for me. The control and balance required along with precise line selection is starting to feed over to riding my Husky. The good thing about trials is that your going slow enough that if you have a get off your not ricocheting off the trees before you stop which allows you to learn new things without the consequences if you fail. I have a lot more confidence on obstacles that I would have never attempted before simply because the technique to do them was not in my bag of tricks. I often struggle with which bike to ride but there is no replacement for riding my WR250 in the woods, the same can now be said about my Beta trials bike as well. Since I started riding trials I have met a lot of older riders (some 60+ years old) that are ex motocrossers and enduro riders that just don't want to crash at high speed any more and share many of the thoughts that previous posts on this thread have stated. I guess what I'm getting at with all of this is if you learn to go slow and precise wether on a trials bike or an enduro it will open up a whole new and fun way to ride that doesn't require all the piss and vinegar of your youth not the mention the flexible fast healing bones.
 
Heal up & make your choices, no one can make them for you.
After a 25 year absence from dirt bikes I picked up a brand new 06 510. Being super careful and only about 200 yards into the dirt I looped my bike while doing maybe 2 to5 mph. First I landed on my ass & compression fractured 3 vertebrae followed a split second later by my big bad wolf coming down, upside down, cross bar first on my right femur breaking it into 4 pieces.
I came within half a whisker of dying 30 hours later after the FIRST surgery (pulmonary edema & have had 5 surgeries over 3 years). Everybody expected me to sell the bike, & I mean everybody. But I couldn't blame the bike, I screwed up, simple as that, one tiny screwup during a freak accident almost killed me.
I always knew I'd be riding my bike again.
I'm slow now, I pick my riding partners carefully so I don't hold anybody up, I push myself as much as possible, but I'll never again be as fast as most, or fast as I used to be. I'm okay with that. I just love riding. Wish I had a lightweight plated WR250 or 300, but for now I'm happy with what I got. The offroad community is great for the most part.
Many don't understand the attraction, but then again, a lot of these people have never done anything riskier than playing a violent video game.
Don't rush to make a decision either way, give it some time, then make the life adjustments which make the most sense to you. Like I said, you're the only one who can make the decision. Best of luck with whatever choices you make.
 
Sorry to hear you took a digger. Hope you get your wind back soon. Stick to your bike(s) that you are familar with, and all should be good in the dirt again.
 
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