• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

TR650 Crash bars

Abby said:
that picture makes me glad we bought the ones from sw-moto.

are they kidding? at first i was thinking it was a joke--like, something where they're syaing "screw you, stop complaining"
maybe i'm being too girly, but that's just butt-ugly.
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Here you go Abby. It is now fixed. We will gladly mail out bows at your request.
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I installed this clamp just a couple days ago and honestly I don't think it's adequate. It seems like there's a lot of stress on the clamp and I wouldn't trust it to hold under the impact of a crash. I'll be looking for something more secure, even if it's only a second clamp or a bunch of stainless steel wire.
 
RidingDonkeys said:
I just checked the calender. Sadly, it is not April 1st.
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We buy quality accessories for our bikes for their fit, finish & durability. I feel this solution should be considered a temporary fix while the manufacturer designs & evaluates a permanent fix. That's the way it's worked in my years as a diesel mechanic on new product that has field issues.
 
What they should be doing is making up straps like Danslow's, with a spacer to install on the engine mount bolt for if you don't have a bash plate. One for either side. Surely that wouldn't cost them that much to add to the new bars and send out to all the unhappy customers? A pipe clamp is a quick and dirty interim trail fix, not an engineered, long term solution
 
dangslow said:
Darn it TE250Guy, I wish I had seen your post before I put my brain into gear. Your 'fix' wouldn't have cut into my beer drinking time so much. I went with a link between the upper motor mount and the lower hole in the Altrider bracket. That and M10 bolts instead of the supplied hardware put everything where I wanted it.
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RuggedExposure said:
I just spit beer everywhere when I saw that pic.

My wife is going to be pissed.
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Exactly...doesn't appear to be a very complicated part (and I am darn sure it holds better than a hose clamp)!
 
Agree
Tazzierob said:
What they should be doing is making up straps like Danslow's, with a spacer to install on the engine mount bolt for if you don't have a bash plate. One for either side. Surely that wouldn't cost them that much to add to the new bars and send out to all the unhappy customers? A pipe clamp is a quick and dirty interim trail fix, not an engineered, long term solution
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Agree completely. Or Dangslow should fab a bunch and sell them for 15 bucks a pop. I'm a buyer at that price. I wonder if he can do them in the same high quality stainless as the super special alt rider clamp? Probably not. ;-)
 
AltRider LLC said:
The crash bars will now utilize a high quality stainless steel hose clamp to connect the lower bolt to the frame. The stainless steel hose clamps were specifically chosen to maintain the strength and weather resistance of the crash bar system.
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Seriously? Is that the solution? I am soooo happy I went with another vendor's product for this particular item. I have not had the opportunity to use any of Altrider's products in the past but it seems this crash bar SNAFU is out of hand. I would be extremely upset if I had chosen this crash bar product. Hopefully this experience is a "learning moment" and will lead to better decisions in the end.
 
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But all kidding aside, this isn't that hard of a fix. Punch out some spacers like shown before, or fabricate a tube held in place with the bolt that has a latch that hooks into frame that prevents it from rising, and send it out to everyone that ordered this product.

If a trip to the hardware store yielding some $.49 hose clamps was the best solution after 'careful consideration', I believe some refunds are in order. Shipping included.
 
i don't think it's that tough of a room.

i mean, if i had these bars and soembody told me that i needed to put a crappy redneck hose clamp on them to keep them in place, i'd be demanding a refund. ESPECIALLY after the total screwups they were with the delivery of these things in the first place.
 
RuggedExposure said:
or fabricate a tube held in place with the bolt that has a latch that hooks into frame that prevents it from rising, and send it out to everyone that ordered this product.
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Funny you say that...I just modeled one up at lunch time today and was thinking about seeing if I have any more favors owed to me from my fab department. BUT, it would be much more appropriate if Alt provided us with one.

I have bought Alt gear in the past and never had an issue...I am an engineer and I know that everyone makes mistakes....but it is how people handle/resolve their mistakes that differs them from them others. Needless to say, the hose clamp response bothered me a bit.

If Alt returns to this thread, consider what RE proposed, or even look at dangs solution. I'm pretty sure that pieces from 1" x .125" bar stock would not cost much more than those clamps. Skip Napa Auto Supply and call your metal supplier for a little more material instead please.
 
Abby said:
i don't think it's that tough of a room.

i mean, if i had these bars and soembody told me that i needed to put a crappy redneck hose clamp on them to keep them in place, i'd be demanding a refund. ESPECIALLY after the total screwups they were with the delivery of these things in the first place.
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I'm not saying I don't agree, but with the direction this thread is taking it's making it difficult for the vendor to remain an active participant in getting the issue resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

I could see it taking a more constructive tack in getting the seller to understand what's deemed an acceptable long term vs. short term solution...and remain part of the solution instead of an adversarial side.
 
I would have loved to have heard the conversation that led to them posting that "solution" on here.

The whole point of having crash bars is so that you won't have to hold your bike together with hose clamps and zip-ties after a crash. The thought of holding it together with that BEFORE the crash is just downright humorous.

Seriously, think about it. They want you to strap a hose clamp on your bike to protect your exhaust from being damaged by the very parts you bought to protect it. It sounds like something out of a Ron White stand-up show.
 
I'm just curious as to what other options they considered if a hose clamp was the winner after deliberation?

I'm not an engineer, I can barely get by using a CAD program, but I am certified in MIG, TIG and Flux core welding processes. And I can assure you that hose clamp will require a few re-adjustments, as it will get tight as a bow string and allow the bars to creep up.

I bet Altrider will come up with a better solution, being as they are a fabrication company.
 
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