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[HuskyT]

GP MX over enduro's .... I love lining up with 30 to 40 bikes and trying to holeshot that first turn.... it makes me feel alive after riding my desk all week.........!

 

[surfer1100]

The one that comes next on the calendar....

 

[I8AKTM]

Enduro's. I like the timekeeping. Clock and roll chart all the way!

HS are fun too, but I don't really care as much for the start, and I much prefer technical stuff than warp speeds.... maybe because my 2nd gear crashes are easier to heal from than 5th gear ones?

 

[tadgh]

Very similar to US National Enduro (restart format) What months do you race in your area? I would love to ride in Ireland, and my wife would like to go too.

our championship season is from about march to october but there are events all year round.

http://www.enduro.ie/calendar/

thats a provisional calander for 2009 but some of the events may change. a guideline to the terrain would be that its very similar to the wales WEC round that was run last year, so thats mainly forestry

 

[tadgh]

Do a National Enduro and your mind will change...

Maybe it is the terrain you talk about but I plan on doing the 2 Nationals out West in Wyoming and Montana...So I will see the difference.

I have never ridden west of Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, etc...

never did an enduro that way with roll charts, all ours have arrows to follow so no need for navigation. i am surprised thats what is called a real enduro because that sounds more like a rally to me (like dakar or something) plus the isde is always ran on special test format also.

also anyone who thinks this format is easy is mistaken, trying to do a test 2 or 3 time round and give it 100% is a difficult thing to do

 

[WoodsChick]

]never did an enduro that way with roll charts, all ours have arrows to follow so no need for navigation. i am surprised thats what is called a real enduro because that sounds more like a rally to me (like dakar or something) plus the isde is always ran on special test format also.[/B]
also anyone who thinks this format is easy is mistaken, trying to do a test 2 or 3 time round and give it 100% is a difficult thing to do

No, our enduros here use arrows, too. The roll charts we use in enduros give you speed changes and resets. It also tells you when you have free time. The object is to maintain the speed average that is set for a particular section. It's tricky, because you can't just haul butt on the easy stuff in hopes of making up time, because they'll throw a check at you, and you drop more points for being early than you do for being late. It's pretty neat. Not only do you have to be technically proficient and fast, but you need to be smart, too. Some clubs are trickier than others and you need to outsmart them. A rollchart is used with a clock and an odometer. An enduro computer makes things much easier.



WoodsChick

 

[Norman Foley]

GP MX over enduro's .... I love lining up with 30 to 40 bikes and trying to holeshot that first turn.... it makes me feel alive after riding my desk all week.........!

Enduro's for me...... I lack that bar banging competitive drive for HS or GP, but enjoy the thinking and competition aspect that a timekeeping enduro has over a DS ride. Going through your roll chart the night before, doing the math and looking for possible check locations with your buddies is part of the fun. 5-6 hours in the woods and most runs you only see most of the trail once.... no sighting lap, no practice, just read the trail and the terrain. That makes me feel alive!

 

[Swampds]

Enduro's for me...... I lack that bar banging competitive drive for HS or GP, but enjoy the thinking and competition aspect that a timekeeping enduro has over a DS ride. Going through your roll chart the night before, doing the math and looking for possible check locations with your buddies is part of the fun. 5-6 hours in the woods and most runs you only see most of the trail once.... no sighting lap, no practice, just read the trail and the terrain. That makes me feel alive!

I must race a different type of hare scramble than most are used to. Here in FL, our races are 11-12 mile loops that take more than 30 minutes per lap. It is a race, but not bar bangin. It is really tight woods with some technical terrain. I enjoy these HS races since it is about all you can handle at race pace. Some of the fast guys do 4-5 laps but my class does between 2-3 laps and that is good for me. I get one practice lap and 3 laps and that is a good day of racing. I have never tried enduros but I am trying to imagine two 30 miles laps of technical racing.....I would be in a world of hurt....or be hurting myself or my bike.

 

[WoodsChick]

I must race a different type of hare scramble than most are used to. Here in FL, our races are 11-12 mile loops that take more than 30 minutes per lap. It is a race, but not bar bangin. It is really tight woods with some technical terrain. I enjoy these HS races since it is about all you can handle at race pace. Some of the fast guys do 4-5 laps but my class does between 2-3 laps and that is good for me. I get one practice lap and 3 laps and that is a good day of racing. I have never tried enduros but I am trying to imagine two 30 miles laps of technical racing.....I would be in a world of hurt....or be hurting myself or my bike.

Here in D36, most enduros are 80-100 ground miles. The official mileage may vary, what with resets and all. The same section of trail is very rarely used twice. They can be really fun sometimes, and sometimes they can make you question your sanity and choice of recreation while you're trying to survive to the end.



WoodsChick

 

[Eurofreak]

I'm an enduro fan-used to do HS but got tired of getting run into or totally wiped out. I do an occasional MX too. I don't mind banging bars once in a while but when I get to ride for 5-6 hours that's what it's all about!
You do ride a lot longer but you get rest breaks (unless you're a rank beginner and way behind.) So much nice trail you couldn't ride at any other time. I usually get hurt a lot less at an enduro

 

[shotgunscott]

I like the Enduro, either Time Keeper or ISDE format over the Hare Scramble format. Riding 80 to 100+ miles and not running over the same ground twice is pretty challenging. Our time keepers usually are about 80 miles and take 5 hours.The ISDE's can get up to 100 plus miles (Idaho City qualifier 230 miles in two days) and last about 6 hours.

 

[BlueHusky144]

I like the Enduro, either Time Keeper or ISDE format over the Hare Scramble format. Riding 80 to 100+ miles and not running over the same ground twice is pretty challenging. Our time keepers usually are about 80 miles and take 5 hours.The ISDE's can get up to 100 plus miles (Idaho City qualifier 230 miles in two days) and last about 6 hours.

Yeah, ISDE qualifiers = Monkey Butt for sure!!!

 

[Bagman]

I like both, but if on the same weekend I would choose Enduro's. More riding & a different trail all day long. The problem I have is all the Enduro's I used to run are now gone. Hare scrambles are closer & at least I can get my racin' fix but I would rather keep time & enter checks knowing I just zeroed.[sometimes].

 

[fury1]

most of our enduros here in the northeast use brand X rules! just modified AMA rules,we have no "free for three" rule,and if you started on row 5,and come into the check on minute 10,that is now your new number,I think it lets the faster guys work to the front instead of passing the same guys in every section,you do get a chance to get back to your original starting minute usually after the gas stop at the known control