Oil Change Drama

Discussion in 'TR650' started by DirtyOldMan, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. fredofoto Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Looking at the Terra
    That's a nifty trick Hasenpfeffer.
    "Don't get Mad, Get Glad" :)
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  2. eca Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Vancouver
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Interceptor (sold)
  3. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    Some chatter over on ADV has me wanting to revive this thread, particularly this post. BigDog mentioned that he wanted to put replace the in-line drain with a true t-valve. I'd been thinking the same thing. However, something like Kjack posted, or even better, a Fumoto would be even better.

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    Does anyone know the thread details on the plug? If we could find a Fumoto to screw right in there, then suddenly oil changes become easy. Just hook up a short piece of hose and drain right into the pan with no funnels or mess.
  4. William42 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Champaign, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    XT1200Z
    ^^^ Interested.
  5. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I've been involved it trying to find a solution for this. I sent Fumoto an email regarding an inline drain. I will post up once they answer.
  6. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
  7. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I got an email back from Fumoto this afternoon. They do NOT make an inline valve. That would have been sweet. RD your idea looks like it will work just fine. Waiting to see what you come up with.
  8. AUS_TR650 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2008 KLX250S
    Pretty good chance the thread in the tee-fitting will be metric. If it has a copper washer to seal the existing plug, it will be a fine pitch, parallel thread.
  9. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    We have confirmed that it is indeed 1/8th NPT. I just came home from the hospital to drop off the Ural and found a package on my doorstep with the valve. Depending on how things go this afternoon, and how well the baby sleeps tonight, I might get this installed in the morning.
  10. kjackbrown Keep on keepin on.

    Location:
    Fresno, Ca.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR650
    So, you are going to screw that right into the factory "T" right? I might do it this way too.


    Just thinking out loud....

    In my garage I already have an 1/8" nipple that has a 30" clear tube on it. I could remove the 1/8" plug currently in the factory "T" and use it to cap off the female side of that valve (just to keep stuff out). On oil change day I would just grab my tube adapter...unscrew the 1/8" plug from the valve...screw in the tube...and open the valve and let it all just drain into an oil bottle. When done just unscrew the tube adapter and put the 1/8" plug back in.

    Heck, so all I need is a 1/8" valve! I still have a while before my next oil change (and it is flippin cold right now) so that gives me plenty of time to find a nice valve (maybe stainless?). :cheers:
  11. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    Yep, I'm screwing right into it. Hopefully I'll get to it today and show pictures of how it works.
  12. kjackbrown Keep on keepin on.

    Location:
    Fresno, Ca.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR650
  13. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    OK, at last, my approach to the oil plug.

    Grab a set of Vise grips and clamp your oil line. Make sure you go far enough to the left to avoid the T and have room to turn the valve.

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    Throw a rag down to catch any drip. There should be some when you remove the plug.

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    Go grab this stuff from your tool box. A tube of Yamalube 4 and a long H5 bit or something in its likeness to reach that plug. If you have trouble pulling the plug, a set of channel locks will work to hold the T fitting in place while you put pressure on the plug. Rest easy, this is the last time you'll have to do this.

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    These are the parts I used. You'll see the original plug in the middle for reference. The valve is getting installed. The elbow I already had, and will be using that for draining. I can hand tighten it in in, and just hook up a hose.

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    Give your valve threads a good coat of Yamalube 4. It is a petroleum resistant semi-drying compound that is perfect for oil fittings and drain plugs.

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    Screw it in and here you have it.

    The valve screw landed on bottom. It must be top or bottom to open fully if you are keeping the red t-handle on it.

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    But what if you hit that thing accidentally and it leaks enough to drain your oil. That would be a bad day. I want a plug there.

    I found this in my stash of air fittings. It came in one of those air hose kits from Northern Tool. It is open though, not a plug.

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    Well, no oil will be hitting this on the regular since the valve will be shut. So a little of this will do.

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    Squirt it through the outside...

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    So that it fills up the inside almost to the top of the threads to make your plug.

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    And give it an hour to dry before putting it on your valve.

    But wait, there's more! Why not eliminate the chance of hitting that valve by accident?

    Get yourself a 10mm wrench and remove this handle.

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    And save that handle. It is your church key now. This shaves some weight off the valve too, so there is less weight bouncing around and being supported by the hose.

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    And you are done! This project took one hour. 32 minutes of that was spent consoling a crying baby.14 minutes was spent explaining to my wife that if she'd just take the baby, it would only take me 5 minutes to finish. 2 minutes of that was spent listening to her rant about changing the oil on a motorcycle less than 24hrs after bringing home a newborn from the hospital. 12 minutes was actual work.

    The actual oil change will have to wait until tomorrow. I think I've used up my kitchen pass for the day.
  14. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Dont forget the time it took, to take pics, while consoling crying baby. :)
    Congrats on the little one! If it's your first kid, your going to love it.
    My 19mo.old loves wrenching on my bike
    Oh ya, nice write up :). Thanks.
  15. kjackbrown Keep on keepin on.

    Location:
    Fresno, Ca.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR650
    Are you going to leave it in that position or are you planning on loosening the hose clamps and spinning it so it points downward (handle to the rear)?

    Heck...even if yoy lost your church key, you could just use something like a 1/4" open ended wrench to turn the valve.
  16. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    Now that you mention it, yes, I'm probably going to rotate it so the valve points down. Hopefully I have time tomorrow to get at it.
  17. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    Thanks! Yep, this is numero uno for us. I know this is the oil thread, but I have to brag a little. MrsDonkeys was pretty insistent on taking her Ural to the Hospital. My only condition was that I pilot it. I didn't want to be in the sidecar when she had a contraction and jerked the handlebars. :eek:

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  18. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Congrats Mr. & Mrs. Donkey! I have three, but they are a little older. All boys, 36, 30, and 20. Yeesh time flies, have fun with your kid because they will never forget it.
  19. chris1261 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada
    If you're going to rotate it so the valve turns downwards, i'd think the best move would be to take the whole thing out, and reverse which nipple goes in which hose. that would orient the handle part outwards, making it easier to operate. just my $0.02

    --Chris

    P.S. 'grats on the newborn!
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  20. kjackbrown Keep on keepin on.

    Location:
    Fresno, Ca.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR650
    Awesome dude Congrats to the RD family !!!