Ever since I removed the evap canister and installed the AutoTune, my TR has been fine. The first few rides had a slightly low/erratic idle but a quick look at it through the PCV software showed me the idle AFR was too lean (~15.2-ish). With the AutoTune, I was able to change that (0% throttle @ 1500 & 1750 rpm) to 13.8 and all is well! I might still mess with some other idle AFR settings just to see how it reacts. It was kind of cool to change the idle AFR setting and hit "Send Map" then all of a sudden the idle smoooooooothed out Oh BTW....my dealer said he MOSSED the bike before I took delivery of it, but it behaved exactly like James and Blue's did...up until I got the PCV installed. Before then I was torn between buying the PCV or the Booster Plug. I loved the price of the BP but ultimately it was the functionality of the DynoJet system that won me over. The ability of being able to control the fuel mixture at any throttle setting and during any rpm makes it worth the cost (to me). When the aftermarket intakes and exhausts make it to market...then the PCV will really be earning it's keep!
Coffee the bike was fine in every way prior to the pcv. The garage I bought it from put it on the moss tool before I got it, so it had none of the glitches some bikes had. Should have left it alone Scotty
Is it possible that he has some Euro 3 stuff that we do not have and hasn't been factored in by dynojet ? Remember the Euro 3 TE 450s and the work to make them like the US models.
KJB - If I just purchased the PCV (and not the autotune) installed it and simply accept all changes through teh PC interface, would that be all i need to do? I live in Vancouver BC and dont have much bike "support" out here. No option for the MOSS tool. The guy that sold me the bike has basically walked away.
They must have changed the map since I bought mine. my map had zeros in all of the target afr cells. The Dynojet tech pasted 13.2 into them all, but i think that needs some tweaking. I still had the idle issue. (although i haven't done the cannisterectomy yet) I removed my PCV and put a wukka-king in for the time being, until I put a pipe on, or some other mod that needs the PCV. I'm pretty happy with the WK, would still like some more low-end torque. not sure if just changing fuel maps would fix that over what i have already though. --Chris
The PCV is plug and play for a basic stock bike. The addition of an AutoTune makes it nice to play with the afr's...especially when you install a pipe and stuff.
I did notice your maps had 13.2's in all of the cells. I went with Dan's AutoTune settings and have been very happy with them. The only change I made to his settings was for the idle range (1500 - 1750)...changed those from 0 to 13.7 I believe. When there was a 0 in those cells, the factory idle afr readings were something like 15.3 or so.
I just got an email from Revzilla. They now have the PC5's in stock and ready to ship and the will ship to Canada Question though, do all the PC5's have the hanging idol issue or is it an isolated to just a few units? Motorsportz seems to be the only guy that ive read that's has that issue. Does anyone know if DJ is close to figuring it out?
I talked to them a few weeks ago. The guy I talked to was not aware of an issue, he confirmed with another DJ guy who owns a Terrra, that in fact there is a hanging idle issue, and once he removed the EVAP canister it went away. So it sounds like there not persuing it.
Dan is a v.p. there and he is the person who owns the Terra...removing the canister took care of my idle issue.
and a tweak with the Autotune, correct? Im curious if it works with just PCV and canister removal (doesn't sound like it). Seems like for the few various products available, there are varied results for the like product. I just dont want to dump $379 on a PCV and not get a decent result. The ICEii looks pretty good to me, especially for what it costs
They were back ordered thru Revzilla.com and got notification they were in. Ordered it and got it about 4 days ago. Waiting for a good day to install. Got it for 303.00.
Got the A/T because I knew I was/am going to get aftermarket exhaust and stuff as soon as it all becomes available.
Hi kjackbrown what you say about the autotune and aftermarket stuff makes sense, but only if what you put on the bike doesn't require too much adjustment from the map already in your PCV. If your cams exhausts airbox etc mods make the motor need a lot more air/ fuel into it you should have a custom map made to suit, then allow the autotune to make any slight adjustments required. Hope this makes sense. Scotty
I think the autotune will also help if you travel through different altitudes and temperatures. It's constantly measuring the O2 levels in the exhaust and will fuel accordingly (in closed loop)
