Switched 12v Power supply

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Gedge, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Beemermcr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Terra - "Burro"
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 BMW 1200 GSA, 2000 DRZ400e
    Just checked with my multimeter:
    - right side connector is switched 12v
    - headlight connector is switched 5v, likely for a GPS

    Anyone else confirm this?
  2. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE
    I have been waiting for the factory heated grips to appear (or at least for winter to appear here) before bothering with heated grip... and today I had a look at the price of the Grips as quoted in Euros on a website in Netherlands. 434 Euros ! When I compared the Euro price of the screen and handguards which I already have to $AU price I paid, there was a multiplier of 1.65. That makes the factory heated grips over $AU700. That is a huge wad of cash to fork out for grip heaters. I might ring a dealer and confirm this week if that really is correct. These might already be on the dealer parts lists in Australia because they are the same part number for heated grips on the Nuda 900. I understand that the grips are electronic, and have automatic controls. I presume they rely on the airbox temperature sensor to determine the ambient air temperature and then to turn the heat on when it reaches a threshold, and the lower the ambient temperature, the hotter the grips will get. I had been told that the heated grips install requires a MOSS connection, presumably to activate the functionality.

    I have a similar set of grips which I have fitted on my DL1000. They have a temp sensor which will turn them on progressively when the temp drops below 15C. They only cost $AU275, and I thought that was a bit over the top considering those simple stick on heat pads which go on the bar under the grips only cost about 1/10th that price.
  3. msmith345 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Shawnee, KS
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '12 WR250, '92 360, '80 390
    Other Motorcycles:
    '72 Yamaha R5, '17 SV650
    Did anyone ever source one of these plugs? I'm wanting to keep things clean and put a plug that fits that on one end of a cable and the other end a micro-usb so I can charge my cell phone.
  4. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    I've actually been trying my best to find a source for this plug online. I was thinking along the same lines, using a proper connector to keep things neat. I can make the terminations, I just need the housing. Sadly, my Google-fu is weak on this one.
  5. Lekolite Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brevard, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada
    If I use the plug in the headlight, how do I wire a USB to it? Pics or instructions anyone?
  6. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    What is your exact intentions? Are you trying to create a USB power outlet or are you trying to create a mini-USB plug to power a GPS?
  7. Lekolite Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brevard, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada
    I just want to power my iPhone. I use it for GPS.
  8. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    Easy peasy. If I recall correctly, iPhones don't use USB connectors (mini or micro) to charge. However, they do use USB power (5volts/1amps) to charge. So you'll need to find out which wire provides the 5v in a normal iPhone cable. For instance, in a USB cable, the 5v travels over the red wire. This is likely the case for the iPhone too, but Apple likes to make things complicated, so check.

    Take an old iPhone cable and cut the end opposite the phone. All you need is the plug that goes into the phone, and a length of bare wire on the other end. You'll be using two of the wires. Normally they are red (voltage) and black (ground). Connect them to the proper pins in the 5v connector on the bike. Use a multimeter to test the pins so you know which goes where. I am pretty sure that 5v plug is switched already, so there is no reason to add an additional switch. With the ignition off, the plug should not provide power at all, thus keeping you from discharging your motorcycle battery.

    That is the wiring portion. As for cleaning it up and making it look neat, that's up to you to do as you please. The connections should be housed in the headlight assembly, so they should be reasonably weatherproof. However, your iPhone plug on the handlebars will not be weatherproof. You'll need to take that into consideration. What happens when you are riding in the rain? Most GPS cables have a rubber cap for when the GPS isn't mounted. You'll need something to keep water out of that plug. I'm sure there is something aftermarket, but I don't do Apple so I don't know where to find it.
  9. Lekolite Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brevard, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada
    I just sacrificed an old USB to iPhone cable. Since USB is a standard, the wires are red, black, white and green. White and green are data, red is power, and black is ground or neutral. I am checking with my BMW parts guy for the matching plug but could also just modify the weather cap that is on the plug now, and wrap it in self sealing rubber tape. As to the other end, my intent is to keep the phone and connector in a ziplock bag. Will provide a picture when complete.
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  10. Lekolite Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brevard, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada
    Alright then, I decided to forgo using a BMW connector in order to utilize the 5volt power in the headlight loom. I snipped off the connector, and stripped back the two wires. Tested them to identify the hot one. Attached the red from my iphone USB charging cable to the purple hot and black from the USB to the blue. Each was sealed with heat shrink tubing and here is the real trick, in order for the iPhone to properly charge, you must connect the two data wires together. Works great and now I can charge my phone while its in use on the bike.
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  11. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    That connector is listed on the schematic as X9220B, which is labeled "Pull up resistor fuel level". The Green/Blue wire goes to Fuse #7 which is 4A, and that Green/Blue wire also goes to "battery KL15C" on the ABS unit, and onto the "Position light" (small bulb in the headlight assembly in case the headlight burns out), and also powers the tail light.

    The other wire to the connector in the picture is White/blue which goes to the fuel pump assembly connector on the top of the tank called "switched fuel reserve", and onto the dashboard labeled "Fuel reserve".

    Apparently there is no resistor connected to the "Pull up resister fuel level" - it is in case that is needed. I hope.

    Based on the information in this thread I clipped the connector in the picture above thinking it was the accessory connector X9349B, which should have gone to fuse #2, which is 15A.

    So don't do what I did, leave the connector in the picture alone, unless you need a tiny amount of power for a low power accessory.
  12. johnsweet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Desert, Maine 04660 USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 790R RickmanZ BulsSherpaTs350


    not much of an electrican but I do know the OEM alarm wire is behind the seat and ziptied to the plastic rack
  13. Santi Beard Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Cadiz, Spain
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kymko 300i Superdink, Harley 883
  14. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I bought a cheap set Chinese heated grips off ebay for mine and they perform beautifully complete with a 14 position potentiometer built into the clutch grip. I also used a Centech fuse block switched off of the tail light circuit via a twelve volt automotive relay. My write up is here (sans grips):


    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22905409&postcount=2133
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  15. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Hello,

    i have got this Cartool Plug an it does not fit to the socket on the Terra (listet as X9349B)

    The socket on the Terra has another shape than the sockets on the BMW´s (on which the Cartool Plug fits!)

    Does anyone know what type of plug is necessary to connect to the socket X9349B at the Terra?

    There must be a fitting plug as it is used in the connection for the original heated grips, but where to get such part?
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  16. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
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  17. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Yes!!!

    Plug with Part Nr. 83300402344 from BMW fits :thumbsup:

    9,20 €

    Anyone interested in the cartool plug? :lol:
  18. RidingDonkeys Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Paso Robles, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    67 Bonnie, 68 Tiger, 11 Ural........
    That's good to know. We need to add that to the interchange thread. This would have saved me a lot of time soldering.
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  19. Lowrider1963 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW 1200gsa
    Try motorworks for parts as they break bmws bikes
  20. Nordland Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North of Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Important fact about socket X9220B!!!

    There is no ground-wire on this socket!!!

    Two wires: green-blue: 12 V (Nr. 02 on the yellow wire at the plug 83300402344)/white-blue: 10,4 V (Nr. 01 one the yellow wire at the plug 83300402344)

    Don´t ask me why :eek:

    Also the socket in the headlight has no ground-wire. I guess it was: purple-green: 4,99 V (Nr. 02 on the yellow wire at the plug 83300402344)/white-blue: 0,03 V (Nr. 01 one the yellow wire at the plug 83300402344)

    So you can only use one wire for switched power and must use another place for ground (i took it directly from the battery).

    Don´t connect the ground of your equipment to any wire of the sockets respectively the plug.
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