Decided -Not - to buy the 630SM

[MASTER_E]

That right there is your problem. It is like riding an old carbed bike with the choke on. If that was my 630 I'd have that airway opened up immediately, get my ass on the seat, line up with any 610 and begin to try and quit laughing. You won't need the dyno to prove you can't quit smiling.

Sorry for derailing your thread Blazers. I'm notorious for hijacking threads
I cant wait to get into the airbox and open it up, I really cant. Anyone know of a good way to shear the head off of a couple bolts without creating a lot of heat or destroying to much plastic?

 

[Blazes]

The fastest stock single cam husky I ever rode was my 02 TE570, That bike would blow the side panels off my 06 TE610. Seems they keep making them slower and slower

This was a FAST bike...

Those bikes were greased lightning ---

 

[Blazes]

Sorry for derailing your thread Blazers. I'm notorious for hijacking threads
I cant wait to get into the airbox and open it up, I really cant. Anyone know of a good way to shear the head off of a couple bolts without creating a lot of heat or destroying to much plastic?

Drill a hole into the plastic and into the brass retainer --put in a small screwdriver or back of a pop rivet and hold while using a spanner in the other hand to loosen it --

 

[Blazes]

Believe it. Take that baffle out, richen up the EFI and replace the exhaust if you want and i bet there is near 20HP there. read my post above, the TE310 makes about 10HP stock if you can get it to start. It's the EPA.

notice something about all the 570/610 race bikes and the air box?

Engines are an air pump. The amount of air it can process has EVERYTHING to do with the power output. Your bike can swallow a gallon and you are giving it an ounce.

I just bought one like that tonight --Eddy Seel Replica with a new motor in that i need to run in in perfect condition with a box of spares --from pistons -sprockets - and even sleeves to set the rake on the bike --going to keep it as my --Special Bike in the stable --that thing runs --117kg and 70hp ---never seen so much carbon on a bike --now if the 630 ran like that when i rode it today i would be in heaven --cant wait for the papers to go and pick it up ---Hell i think i will sleep in the workshop with it --

 

[Blazes]

It appears only the USA models get the air box labrinth/restrictor, so that isn't an issue in SA. You are saying that a non USA model is not capable of more power then a 610. I have not ridden any 610's, but I just cant buy that. Mine was so lean in stock form it was crazy. Putting on the p/u cap and plug the bike goes like mad! The 630's have the proven twin cam top end. That has got to make for more of a rev head then the original single cam motor. You really have to ride one that has been powered up, (only about $50 in parts in the USA) or maybe one that has been plugged in to iBeat and richened up, or one with comparable gearing. Remember the 610's come with 15/45 gearing while the 630 SMR comes geared to the moon with 15/38. Someone on here (maybe SMJ) was saying he was happier when he put the 630 TE gearing, 15/42, on his 630 SMR. I would not base your judgment on a lean running motor that is geared to the moon. You will be shooting your self in the foot, like the saying goes. Let us know when you ride a differen't 630 that has been set up correctly.

My gripe --is that should a dealer not have a standard bike as well as a uncorked one with all the mods done and set up for us to try them out and decide for ourselves what we want ---Like giving a bike to the media all chocked up and expecting to get a great RR--- btw i do feel that extra weight on the double cam when climbing off the 610 and getting on to the 630 --or maybe i am just imagining it.

Power up kit for the 630te-sm are reasonably cheap --the exhausts and the ECU are very pricey --about 2,000 dollars --the pipes can be decatted but they do not want to sell me the ECU seperately --sucks. Ends up to be a catch 22 for me -Easy and inexpensive to get the 610 to run well-

 

[XLEnduroMan]

Blazes, were you happy with the 610 out of the box? Did you remove the 02 sensor/install the p/u kit? That is all I have done to my 630, well besides removal of the air box labrinth that was out when I got the bike. Your country doesn't have to worry about the labrinth so just need the p/u kit like the 610. CH member xymotic said he rode a fi 610 in stock form and thought it was broken. Master_E had to ditch the 38 rear on the 630 SMR. That's 2 fairly simple fixes that is only just over the $100 range. No "need" for a $1,000 exhaust for the extra 3hp, or a ECU. These 630's do run good uncorked. You just need to find one to ride to get the true impression of the motor.
Test rides/demo bikes is something that is not done in my neck of the woods. Lucky for those that have that luxury, be it on a stock or uncorked bike.

 

[moto66]

I just bought one like that tonight --Eddy Seel Replica with a new motor in that i need to run in in perfect condition with a box of spares --from pistons -sprockets - and even sleeves to set the rake on the bike --going to keep it as my --Special Bike in the stable --that thing runs --117kg and 70hp ---never seen so much carbon on a bike --now if the 630 ran like that when i rode it today i would be in heaven --cant wait for the papers to go and pick it up ---Hell i think i will sleep in the workshop with it --

Congrats!! You bought it

 

[moto66]

Sorry for derailing your thread Blazers. I'm notorious for hijacking threads
I cant wait to get into the airbox and open it up, I really cant. Anyone know of a good way to shear the head off of a couple bolts without creating a lot of heat or destroying to much plastic?

Master_E, half the biking world is waiting to see what's in that airbox! Get on with it

 

[willie]

The airbox baffle is a plate with an S shaped channel molded into it . The opening is a rectangular 5/8" X 1 1/2". No trouble seeing this as a major intake restriction!
My 630 was pretty anemic for the first 1000KM. At that point I removed the intake restrictor, added power-up kit and changed gearing from 15/42 to 14/45. Felt like I dumped a 300lb passenger! Different beast all together! Have no idea of the horsepower but seat of the pants gain is at least 40%.

 

[moto66]

The airbox baffle is a plate with an S shaped channel molded into it . The opening is a rectangular 5/8" X 1 1/2". No trouble seeing this as a major intake restriction!
My 630 was pretty anemic for the first 1000KM. At that point I removed the intake restrictor, added power-up kit and changed gearing from 15/42 to 14/45. Felt like I dumped a 300lb passenger! Different beast all together! Have no idea of the horsepower but seat of the pants gain is at least 40%.

I see that. The Huskys are so strangled there ought to be an APB out. Think the f**k up is that spend lots, have a warranty and EXPECT. The emissions regs are the pitfall. If Husky could they would. I've ranted this when I shelled out on my brand new SMR but it's left to the owner to get the gains. Plus £££'s. It's worth it, better the bike you want than the restricted thing you buy. All praise to CH for giving us a chance to share the knowledge and shine the guiding light

 

[Blazes]

Blazes, were you happy with the 610 out of the box? Did you remove the 02 sensor/install the p/u kit? That is all I have done to my 630, well besides removal of the air box labrinth that was out when I got the bike. Your country doesn't have to worry about the labrinth so just need the p/u kit like the 610. CH member xymotic said he rode a fi 610 in stock form and thought it was broken. Master_E had to ditch the 38 rear on the 630 SMR. That's 2 fairly simple fixes that is only just over the $100 range. No "need" for a $1,000 exhaust for the extra 3hp, or a ECU. These 630's do run good uncorked. You just need to find one to ride to get the true impression of the motor.
Test rides/demo bikes is something that is not done in my neck of the woods. Lucky for those that have that luxury, be it on a stock or uncorked bike.

Hi Xle

My 610te out the box was not bad at all at 1000km service i replaced the stock pipe with the Arrows one that comes with the PU kit --made the bike run very well after that and smooth. I must also mention that it was very tight for at least 3,000km. i now have 19,000 on it.

Please do not hear what i am not saying --i love the 630sm -my problem here is that i have to pay good money after spending hard earned cash to get a bike running better than a sewing machine -- i know it is all about the emission laws etc --but hell we have none of those hassles here --give me a discount on the bike goods that are purposely made to restrict it and give me a bike that can kick arse like it was intended to.
Problem we have with all the money thrown at them most people here have not got the knowledge --or maoney once they have purchased the bike and they run it down saying it is over rated --

I raced Husqvarna for 11 years --in those days bikes were --ready to race--stock

I am sure the 630 will be able to get there -- but the importer called me yesterday and said the only way i would get it to run properly is with the ECU -PIPES AND PU Kit installed --- asked him to bring one that has been done so we could have a head to head with my 610 --answer --i have not got one -

Yes and a Very Big THANK YOU CH for a dedicated and extreemely informative forum .. Because of this forum and research i did with all the pro's and con's on the 610 --i bought one -- knowing what to expect from it and not going in blindly

 

[moto66]

Please do not hear what i am not saying --i love the 630sm -my problem here is that i have to pay good money after spending hard earned cash to get a bike running better than a sewing machine -- i know it is all about the emission laws etc --but hell we have none of those hassles here --give me a discount on the bike goods that are purposely made to restrict it and give me a bike that can kick arse like it was intended to.
Problem we have with all the money thrown at them most people here have not got the knowledge --or maoney once they have purchased the bike and they run it down saying it is over rated --

So you don't have the emissions issues to deal with, I am reading that right?

 

[Blazes]

Please do not hear what i am not saying --i love the 630sm -my problem here is that i have to pay good money after spending hard earned cash to get a bike running better than a sewing machine -- i know it is all about the emission laws etc --but hell we have none of those hassles here --give me a discount on the bike goods that are purposely made to restrict it and give me a bike that can kick arse like it was intended to.
Problem we have with all the money thrown at them most people here have not got the knowledge --or money once they have purchased the bike and they run it down saying it is over rated --

So you don't have the emissions issues to deal with, I am reading that right?

This is Africa --none of them are enforced we even got 2007 XR 650R Honda's last year that came from where --who knows and Suzuki Dr650 that do not meet EU standards --SA is a dumping ground for goods that will not be accepted anywhere else in the world -- what next? will we be forced to ride electric bikes ?

But now we are getting off the subject -------------

 

[MASTER_E]

Behold;
The Labirinth......
Its just a silly little plate the sits in the airbox directly behind the air filter...

 

[lankydoug]

Behold;
The Labirinth......
Its just a silly little plate the sits in the airbox directly behind the air filter...

It looks like the rat already made it through and ate the cheese.

 

[jtemple]

That labyrinth was one of the first piece of my bike I received in the mail before it shipped. Hall's took it out for me. I didn't even know what it was at first.

 

[moto66]

That's still less restrictive than the 510's plate. Going by OP's post on SMJ it's made little difference taking that sucker out either??

 

[MASTER_E]

Yup. It didn't make that much of a difference at all. Its definitely better just not night and day...

 

[moto66]

How many miles have you got on that motor now?

 

[MASTER_E]

almost 1200