Decided -Not - to buy the 630SM

[moto66]

almost 1200

Well she's pretty run in too. I think up to 600m I struggled but things have felt better and better since. I'd compare notes with 'willie' above. If he's saying he's got like a 40% power increase - well feeling of - then if your bikes have the same mods and yours is still struggling there's a deeper issue. Sounds odd but I found (not having ridden a large single for years, last was 2 stroke), that to get going forward you've really got to give a handful on the throttle which made me think limiter. But other guys vouch there isn't one on your machine. And your pipe is not restricted either? Feel for you, I'd be fed up by now.

 

[XLEnduroMan]

Maybe there could be a ECU reflash to cure these blues. That would be excellent! I wonder how much gain there would be (in p/u) bumping up the CO's. I have iBeat, I guess I should plug it in and see.

 

[MASTER_E]

I'm starting to cough, hack and generally feel like crap; so it doesn't look like I'm going to do my track days this weekend... Oh what could I spend that money on instead....... I'll let you know if a PCV and A/T can cure the common cold...

 

[organ donor]

I´ve been on the 610. It was SLOW! After handing it back to the dealer, I decided not look at another Husky. But when the 630 came out, I was one of the first to get one. The 1000 kms previous to its first service were diabolical. When I got it back, it´d been uncorked and had the twin Arrow slip-ons with the new EFI. I´ve been on it all winter and (apart from it still being a bit too heavy) is now perfect. I still keep my previous bike (CCM644) as a backup as it is more agile.

 

[High-Side]

I´ve been on the 610. It was SLOW!

I'd be willing to bet you had a corked 610 as my uncoorked 610 is not slow. I also ride an uncorked CRF450X and my 610 is not that far behind in power. I wish you lived by me so we could hit the local backroad and see just how fast your 630 really is.

 

[moto66]

I'm starting to cough, hack and generally feel like crap; so it doesn't look like I'm going to do my track days this weekend... Oh what could I spend that money on instead....... I'll let you know if a PCV and A/T can cure the common cold...

'I've got those Husky blues....'

I'd save the pennies, I don't think you need PC or AT to get this bike running properly. That's just a tuning tool when you want the utmost from the thing. You've got to get to the bottom of the general running issues first. And maybe accept partly that the 630 is much more a user friendly street bike than some of the hardware you're riding with.

 

[Blazes]

'I've got those Husky blues....'

I'd save the pennies, I don't think you need PC or AT to get this bike running properly. That's just a tuning tool when you want the utmost from the thing. You've got to get to the bottom of the general running issues first. And maybe accept partly that the 630 is much more a user friendly street bike than some of the hardware you're riding with.

I think we were all under the impression with the Hype arround the new 630 that we would be having a awesone and totally different bike --

Seems like we were mistaken --some nice cosmetics --a hyraulic clutch --not that that is a plus for me --i prefer the cable feel -more direct.

All that we have got now is a heavier bike two pipes -same old reliable 610 motor --detuned more than the 610. A whole extra 25cc and a twin OHC that will just make it rev faster --the old 610 rev's pretty fine imho. Aftermarket parts that cost a arm and a leg to get it to run.

Would like to know what they based the 20% power increase on

Maybe i am mistaken or am just not seeing the BIG picture here.

Think i will just hang on to my 610's until i can be prooved otherwise ---

 

[dualie]

Hello SM 610 owners. I was considering a 630, but given the negative reviews, I'm now considering a 2009 SM 610. I live in the States, so I imagine the bike comes restricted in stock form. Most here are talking about power up kits, fuel injection remapping, air box modding and aftermarket exhaust kits. Is all that truly necessary to get a 610 or 630 to perform properly? If not, what's the bare bones minimum one can do to get the bike properly tuned? I mean, after break in, what should or can you do to achieve race characteristics? Hey, and not that I plan on racing the bike. I'm just looking for a street legal supermotard. However, I don't want to get somethings that hopeless when it comes to performance. I mean, even though it's a street bike, you want performance, you know? Anyway, I found a brand new 2009 online... the price is right, so I'm thinking of purchasing it. Please advise, as it seems like some of the performance experiences here are very disturbing. Either that or unlucky. I mean, sometimes in manufacturing, all that is produced is not good and sometimes some of the bad stuff gets shipped to the customer. Having said all that, I'm still confused cos' I see countless YouTube video's of guys stunting on SM 610's all day long (?)

Update: Got a brand new 2009 SM 610. So far, it runs great. No worries. Hoping fellow Husky owners get their performance issues sorted.

 

[jtemple]

I can't speak for the 610. For the 630, to get it running right, the $40 power up kit is all you need. I'm only considering more than that to shave some weight, that's it.

 

[High-Side]

I put a Leo Vince slip-on exhaust $349 and a Lambda Sensor delete kit $60 on my '08 SM610 and it runs great. Below is a link of a KTM rider following me up a very tight and twisty road. In the video it's his bike that's popping, mine doesn’t pop at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfVK47YxtPc

 

[Xpat]

Hi Xle

I am sure the 630 will be able to get there -- but the importer called me yesterday and said the only way i would get it to run properly is with the ECU -PIPES AND PU Kit installed --- asked him to bring one that has been done so we could have a head to head with my 610 --answer --i have not got one -

Blazes,

If you keen, we can meet up and compare the TE's - I believe you are from Gauteng. Mine is TE630 with the O2 and lambda thingies removed and with Arrows and ECU. It has now over 3000km - just came back from trip to Swaziland and Mozambique.

 

[XLEnduroMan]

One difference between the efi 610/630 that is so obvious to the naked eye is the air box covers. The 610 has A LOT more air flow stock then the 630. The difference can also be clearly seen in the parts catalogs. The 630 even with out the snorkle or labrinth has maybe 25% the air flow the 610 air box has. The 630 simply can not breath in stock form. We all know this does inhibit the power output. I have cut away my air box cover some, up behind the side panel. It loves the extra air. I plan to take off more behind the side panel, but need to figure out a work around for the side panel fastener. I don't want to open it up down low and exposed like the 610. Uncorked efi 610 owners, please go tape up 75% of your air box and please report back the findings.
All yea nay sayers of the 630, I think you will all be eating crow as more 630 owners put fort a little effort and report on it.

 

[Blazes]

Blazes,

If you keen, we can meet up and compare the TE's - I believe you are from Gauteng. Mine is TE630 with the O2 and lambda thingies removed and with Arrows and ECU. It has now over 3000km - just came back from trip to Swaziland and Mozambique.

I would love that

Just so i can see that if i buy a SM 630 i will not be wasting my hard earned cash --My 634 SMR Eddy Seel replica runs like greased lightning 74hp --but alas that is a different bike ALL together--

 

[Blazes]

Blazes,

If you keen, we can meet up and compare the TE's - I believe you are from Gauteng. Mine is TE630 with the O2 and lambda thingies removed and with Arrows and ECU. It has now over 3000km - just came back from trip to Swaziland and Mozambique.

By the way XPat i am taking a group out on Sunday the 17th starting at the Sasol Pinehaven at 8 for 8.30 maybe join in ---

 

[organ donor]

Yes, it certainly is true that older model bikes used to put out more hp then is permissible under present conditions. As stated elsewhere, several bike manufacturers have been taken to court in Europe for selling de-corked bikes and advertising their higher performance. I took my CCM to a Husky dealer a couple of years ago, looking for a new bike. He gave me the Husky 610 for a trial run and I handed it back in disgust. And I was very disappointed with my Husky 630 ... at first. But wiser bikers advised to persist. After the p/u kit was installed, the bike was no longer street legal over here but the performance was better than I could have expected. I can assure you that a 610 wouldn´t stand a chance. The p/u kit is NOT expensive (and could likely be a DIY job). Lurking on the European forums, I get the feeling that there are a lot of 610 owners who realize that the 630. has diminished the market value of their bikes. BTW, I´ve done 5.000 kms since new (mainly in winter ... snow & ice), have had not a single problem with the bike. It has proved to be a very roadworthy, reliable and fun machine. As far as I can see, the only alternative, performance wise is the Husaberg 570 ... and that´s just asking for trouble.

 

[Yvoshkiro]

here's a vid .

The bike is still corked (O2 sencor) no P/U kit.
no airbox restrictie (european model)
with ARROW + ECU
original gears (15/38)

 

[Blazes]

N

Yes, it certainly is true that older model bikes used to put out more hp then is permissible under present conditions. As stated elsewhere, several bike manufacturers have been taken to court in Europe for selling de-corked bikes and advertising their higher performance. I took my CCM to a Husky dealer a couple of years ago, looking for a new bike. He gave me the Husky 610 for a trial run and I handed it back in disgust. And I was very disappointed with my Husky 630 ... at first. But wiser bikers advised to persist. After the p/u kit was installed, the bike was no longer street legal over here but the performance was better than I could have expected. I can assure you that a 610 wouldn´t stand a chance. The p/u kit is NOT expensive (and could likely be a DIY job). Lurking on the European forums, I get the feeling that there are a lot of 610 owners who realize that the 630. has diminished the market value of their bikes. BTW, I´ve done 5.000 kms since new (mainly in winter ... snow & ice), have had not a single problem with the bike. It has proved to be a very roadworthy, reliable and fun machine. As far as I can see, the only alternative, performance wise is the Husaberg 570 ... and that´s just asking for trouble.

Not planning a race here --just want to compare power --performance and value for money before i buy a 630SM my 09 -610 te is now running at 19,000km and will be giving it a 20k service soon --problems --minor--as i mostly run gravel and technical stuff -- replaced indicator relay -indicator globes --x 1 Front headlight globe x 2 and 1 x clutch cable

Thats it besides tyres and oil filters as well as oils chan and sprockets

 

[MASTER_E]

I'll admit that my 630 is starting to come around nicely. A buddy and I went out riding the other day and his 610 still accelerated harder than my 630 but it wasn't by much. I would like to take the airbox and put some more holes in it so it can breath better. I removed the little snorkel that goes from airbox up behind the number plate but when I had it dyno'd that didn't matter at all. But nevertheless it still breaths threw a single hole about the size of two quarters end to end.

Long story short I still think the 630 is a bit better than the 610. It doesn't have the power a 610 has (yet) but it does have some other amenities that the 610 doesn't. The grab bars are great, a single key for both fuel and ignition is great, being able to pull the seat and side panels off without a wrench is great, and my headlight is sure better than my buddies headlight...

 

[jtemple]

I hear about a few people opening up their airboxes, but I'm hesitant. I think the whole point of that design is for water crossings. Also, flowing more air in & out of the the engine requires more fuel, which means having to tune the ECU.

 

[Fast1]

I hear about a few people opening up their airboxes, but I'm hesitant. I think the whole point of that design is for water crossings. Also, flowing more air in & out of the the engine requires more fuel, which means having to tune the ECU.

+1.. agree