• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

PC5 + Autotune + cool mufflers happening soon, will keep you posted.

Install took ~20 minutes. I grabbed my jacket and helmet to go for a quick ride around the block. An hour later I find my self sitting on the side of a country road with a very upset Highway Patrol Officer lecturing me on how many young sport bike riders they have to medivac away from the area because they ride way too fast. I apologize and get him to calm down down then the conversation turns to what it is exactly that I am riding and how he and his boys have highly modified DRZ's that they enjoy. Well another 40 minutes later and we agree to meet this Saturday at the local BMW dealership (they are having a Open House event because that are now carrying Ducati and Triumph in a brand new extension of their facility) so he can ride my TR and see for himself why I was soooooooo loving my bike and riding "spirited".

Anyways, this is Motosportz thread and we (as well as he) are all eagerly waiting for his build to complete the thread titles phase. Tomorrow I will start a new thread with my experiences with the install and my interpretation of what the PCV has done for my bike (teaser....if you were thinking about getting a PCV.....don't walk....RUN out and get one********************************************************************************!!). Just saying.
 
kjackbrown said:
Install took ~20 minutes. I grabbed my jacket and helmet to go for a quick ride around the block. An hour later I find my self sitting on the side of a country road with a very upset Highway Patrol Officer lecturing me on how many young sport bike riders they have to medivac away from the area because they ride way too fast. I apologize and get him to calm down down then the conversation turns to what it is exactly that I am riding and how he and his boys have highly modified DRZ's that they enjoy. Well another 40 minutes later and we agree to meet this Saturday at the local BMW dealership (they are having a Open House event because that are now carrying Ducati and Triumph in a brand new extension of their facility) so he can ride my TR and see for himself why I was soooooooo loving my bike and riding "spirited".

Anyways, this is Motosportz thread and we (as well as he) are all eagerly waiting for his build to complete the thread titles phase. Tomorrow I will start a new thread with my experiences with the install and my interpretation of what the PCV has done for my bike (teaser....if you were thinking about getting a PCV.....don't walk....RUN out and get one !!). Just saying.
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KJack-

How did you get the TPS connector off, and then the new one on. I just got my PC yesterday, went into the garage to install it and can bearly see or touch the tps here's a pic of me touching a screwdriver to the clip
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What tools did you use?

Thanks.

--Chris
 
chris1261 said:
KJack-

How did you get the TPS connector off, and then the new one on. I just got my PC yesterday, went into the garage to install it and can bearly see or touch the tps here's a pic of me touching a screwdriver to the clip
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What tools did you use?

Thanks.

--Chris
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Sorry for the delay in the write up...been out out of town for work all week. I used a long skinny flathead screwdriver for that connector. I pushed in on that locking bar for a few and it did not want to release. Then I pulled out on it slighly and the connector just came off!
 
They are using a cell phone to "remote" connect to a laptop that is connected via USB to the PCV.

Seems like you should be able to go straight to the USB on the phone. I guess PCV's program is designed for windows and not Android or iphone yet.

There might be a solution of you can run a windows emulator on your phone and run the software right on your phone.
 
General enquiry as to how folks are getting on with their PCV? Any issues, complaints? Significant changes in fuel economy? Did Motosportz ever get the cans installed? Or has this thread gone to bed? So many questions!
 
Thumpa said:
General enquiry as to how folks are getting on with their PCV? Any issues, complaints? Significant changes in fuel economy? Did Motosportz ever get the cans installed? Or has this thread gone to bed? So many questions!
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there is a hanging idle issue we are working on. Seems to be mostly sorted but still some working on it. That aside it works great. Smooth running more power.
 
Motosportz said:
there is a hanging idle issue we are working on. Seems to be mostly sorted but still some working on it. That aside it works great. Smooth running more power.
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outside of idle issue is it steady and linear? I understand the premise of the PC but get a little lost on the maps/programming side. Have you got it set up to run anything other than what it has achieved via auto tune? I could see the advantage of say a map for tearing it up and one for the mellow fellow sunday plod, or maybe touring mode. I could sit down and read stuff till i'm blue in the face and not really be much the wiser. So prefer to hear from folks who have it operational on the Terra/Strada. Also wandering how the cans turned out?
 
The PCV is doing much like what the boosters are claiming....but instead of fooling the ECU to "fix" a certain rainge of rpm's....it fixes ALL rpm's. Unfortunately all that is offered to the aftermarket performance market is well...nothing. I say unfortunate because that is where the Auto Tune is needed. Change ANYTHING performance wise and the A/T optimizes it.

If you EVER plan on adding an exhaust or intake performance mod...go PCV. If you just want to fix the annoying off idle stumble...go with the "plug" options.
 
kjackbrown said:
...and yes, steady and linear is a HUGE understatement !
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kjackbrown said:
The PCV is doing much like what the boosters are claiming....but instead of fooling the ECU to "fix" a certain rainge of rpm's....it fixes ALL rpm's. Unfortunately all that is offered to the aftermarket performance market is well...nothing. I say unfortunate because that is where the Auto Tune is needed. Change ANYTHING performance wise and the A/T optimizes it.

If you EVER plan on adding an exhaust or intake performance mod...go PCV. If you just want to fix the annoying off idle stumble...go with the "plug" options.
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So do i understand that Auto Tune eliminates the need for additional dyno tuning? For that matter do these units require dyno, or not? These may be daft questions, but just trying to wrap my brain around this. So helpful information to a layman!
Also do you see any significant changes in fuel consumption compared to stock?
 
Thumpa said:
So do i understand that Auto Tune eliminates the need for additional dyno tuning? For that matter do these units require dyno, or not? These may be daft questions, but just trying to wrap my brain around this. So helpful information to a layman!
Also do you see any significant changes in fuel consumption compared to stock?
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My understanding about the way the autotune works, is it's similar to how you would create a fuel map, except that instead of specifying how much fuel to add/subtract at a given rpm and throttle opening, you set an air/fuel ratio target for that rpm/throttle position. The autotune reads the O2 level from it's included O2 sensor, and adjusts fuel accordingly. This way, if you add a pipe and open the airbox up, the lean condition is detected and the PCV + AT strives to reach the intended air/fuel ratio.

When I installed my AT, the included map had blank a/f settings. A dynojet tech showed me how to set the ratios, he pasted 13.2 into every cell (it looks like a spreadhsheet).

As you are running, the autotune has it's own map, which is overlayed on the base map. you set how far the AT map can deviate from the base, and you have the option to make the "trim" values permanent.

--Chris
 
the base PCV is like replacing your ECU with a programmable one and it comes loaded with a great map for your stock bike. You can reprogram it at will. You could add a pipe and then take it tot a dyno and play with the tuning until you got what you wanted. Basically base maps you can configure manually any way you like.

Add the Autotune feature and it goes one step further and uses a wide band CO sniffer on your head pipe and works tirelessly to try to make the mixture perfect all the time. Add a pipe it goes to works making it richer for the pipe. Remove the air filter back to work for the Autotune. Autotune add on tot he PCV automatically tunes it.

Make sense?
 
chris1261 said:
My understanding about the way the autotune works, is it's similar to how you would create a fuel map, except that instead of specifying how much fuel to add/subtract at a given rpm and throttle opening, you set an air/fuel ratio target for that rpm/throttle position. The autotune reads the O2 level from it's included O2 sensor, and adjusts fuel accordingly. This way, if you add a pipe and open the airbox up, the lean condition is detected and the PCV + AT strives to reach the intended air/fuel ratio.

When I installed my AT, the included map had blank a/f settings. A dynojet tech showed me how to set the ratios, he pasted 13.2 into every cell (it looks like a spreadhsheet).

As you are running, the autotune has it's own map, which is overlayed on the base map. you set how far the AT map can deviate from the base, and you have the option to make the "trim" values permanent.

--Chris
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Chris, great insight, though it seems a little beyond my capabilities if, as you stated, requires input from a dyno tech. Maybe things would become clearer for me by seeing one and following instructions. More of a left brain right brain, as i tend to be very visual. Nice concise information - very helpful -thanks!
 
Motosportz said:
the base PCV is like replacing your ECU with a programmable one and it comes loaded with a great map for your stock bike. You can reprogram it at will. You could add a pipe and then take it tot a dyno and play with the tuning until you got what you wanted. Basically base maps you can configure manually any way you like.

Add the Autotune feature and it goes one step further and uses a wide band CO sniffer on your head pipe and works tirelessly to try to make the mixture perfect all the time. Add a pipe it goes to works making it richer for the pipe. Remove the air filter back to work for the Autotune. Autotune add on tot he PCV automatically tunes it.

Make sense?
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Motosportz - yep' the analogies make good sense. I guess reading between both yours and Chris's comments i'm now wandering how does one begin to relate/translate a/f ratio's? Maybe there's some simple format or well documented thread on this subject somewhere where i might be better looking. It can really take a while for this stuff to find it's way into my gray matter! Thanks for the simplification, of an otherwise complex device. Still wandering what effects if any on overall fuel consumption?
 
Thumpa said:
Chris, great insight, though it seems a little beyond my capabilities if, as you stated, requires input from a dyno tech. Maybe things would become clearer for me by seeing one and following instructions. More of a left brain right brain, as i tend to be very visual. Nice concise information - very helpful -thanks!
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Thumpa,

I think because this is such a new bike, that DJ didn't have an air/fuel ratio map included with the powercommander. Most of the time, this map is included.

an AFR of 13.2 is pretty "safe", meaning it's rich enough to ensure no detonation or pinging under full throttle. i should probably experiment with leaner ratios at lesser throttle openings to get ideal gas milage. as it stands, i haven't seen better than 49mpg on my bike. it may be be the fact that it's got < 500 miles on it and is still breaking in.

I removed the PCV for the time being until Dynojet figures out the idle issue, and installed the Wuka King booster plug as an interim solution. I've not put a pipe or any other mod that would require the PCV, so that's not an issue.

I can say that the Wuka King Power Controller (switched version) makes the bike idle smoother, and smooths out the low end power delivery, however the seat-of-the-pants dyno still feels that the PowerCommander makes more low-end grunt.

--Chris
 
My PCV came with a TR650 base map for a stock bike and worked very good except for the hanging idle that did not show up on the first few rides. Something is fighting it in the system and takes a while to show up. They are working on it.
 
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