Rekluse Auto Clutch

[TE250Guy]

Recluse has a place on their site where people can suggest future products. Today I left a message to show interest in the Recluse for the Terra. If there are enough of us, it should influence their decision to go into production for our bikes.

 

[mag00]

This is very exciting news Mag! I'll get a kit as soon as I can lay my hands on it!! Do yo?u have an eMail address for your contact at Rekluse?

I'm keeping contact and the messages sometimes take awhile, I pass the interest along, and try to let him stay focused on the development. If he has to field a pile of questions from many, it might cause a slowdown. If you have any concerns, I can pass that along.

It might be good for all to contact the sales team and ask to be put on a waiting list or to be notified when it is ready for retail for the Terra/Strada. You can inquire with them at customerservice@rekluse.com

Sure couldn't hurt to let them know the product will sell.

 

[mag00]

Recluse has a place on their site where people can suggest future products. Today I left a message to show interest in the Recluse for the Terra. If there are enough of us, it should influence their decision to go into production for our bikes.

Our bikes and the Sertao/G650

https://rekluse.com/new-product-request/

 

[engineerk9]

Looks like it. I've been told not to get you guys hopes up, but it is really hard not to share the good news.

Awesome magoo, well done
I'll buy one

 

[engineerk9]

Thanks for the update.
Do you think that Rekluse will actually sell a clutch kit for the Terra in the future?

Hope so - I'll buy one ASAP

 

[engineerk9]

Took it out this morning for the clutch break in and adjustment. Yowsa, why the hell I didn't get this long ago, it is a must have. I only drove it for a few and did some slow turning work and just love love love this. Absolutely a dream. I am so glad I have my new adjustable levers as well, because of the cable tension needed to release the preload in the clutch to make the rekluse work. I can adjust down to get the lever closer to the bars.

In the break in, you have to start in second and roll on with no clutch, and the terra was busting it loose. Freaking awesome. The claims about the Rekluse on the good side are understated, and the downsides are only that there is constant tension on the clutch cable, but I have a remedy for that.

I have 50% humidity today and it feels like a wet sponge outside, and the Terra is running like crap compared to usual. Backpopping bad and a little roughness. This may adapt I hope on a little longer run, coming up here in a bit. Don't know how far I'll go today, hot and humid, but dang I'm excited about this.

I can put my 16 t back on and get better highway, and still have buttloads of bottom grunt. In first it is an animal. I can use all the torque and control it well just with the throttle.

I will be working with Logan to help fix the bugs for the next few weeks. He seems serious about getting this going for the Terra and Sertao guys now. If we can work out the judder spring issue, it may go back into production.

I'm going riding I'll take the gopro next time maybe

I'm thinking 17t to give me better Highway & better 3rd for desert (or maybe even 4th) - my TR seems to be getteing betterer every mod l do

 

[engineerk9]

I have changed the setup of the Rekluse and fired off some information to Logan. The 36 count prototype discs I received need some refinement in my opinion. I put the original configuration with the judder spring back in today. It seemed to work fine.

Next week, I am going to pull my clutch hub and replace it with the 30 count hub. The disks fit better, so there will be less slop. I will also know which BMW part will work for those who want this and if Rekluse does not go forward with it.

It looks like the 650 X clutch is not going to work, as it is deeper and might hit the cover. I won't know for sure until I pull it apart. I have two different config hubs from the BMW's

The hub on the left is from the Xchallenge, and the one on the right is from an early f650 single. The one on the right has the same thickness of clutch pack as our terra's.

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To get the judder spring config working for todays project and test, I had to trim the tabs of one stock friction disk to fit within the hub clips needed for the Rekluse disks. The used disk below is from the early f650. I did not want to chop up my relatively new clutch disks, ($187 for the set, only in sets)
View attachment 58977

You can see the metal spring clips/spacer in this picture
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I need to get back into the hills again to test this setup, dang life is tough LOL.

I like the steel liners to protect the basket

 

[gullywasher]

Way to go mag00! Unless you've tried one, you can't really appreciate how much more pleasure a Recluse clutch can add to your off-roading experience, especially on a fairly heavy bike with streetable gearing. My fingers are crossed that the clutch kit soon becomes available. I can't think of a better mod for those of us who like to take our Terras off-road.

 

[engineerk9]

Way to go mag00! Unless you've tried one, you can't really appreciate how much more pleasure a Recluse clutch can add to your off-roading experience, especially on a fairly heavy bike with streetable gearing. My fingers are crossed that the clutch kit soon becomes available. I can't think of a better mod for those of us who like to take our Terras off-road.

The reply to my recent request:-

"Thank you for your interest in our product. Sorry, but we don't have anything available for your TR 650. As we expand our product line there could be something available in the future, but there is no ETA of if, or when. Please keep checking our website as we will be sure to update it with up and coming products. In the mean time I will add this to our list of requested products. Have a great day and let us know if you need anything else."

“Idaho” Joe Boisvert
Sales, Marketing, & Technical Support
P: 208-426-0659 Ext. 716
E: joe@rekluse.com

My response:-
"Hi Joe
On the Cafehusly Forum there's a member who is working with you Guys & has fitted one to his TR
Are you sure that you don't have one for the TR"
Cheers
Just maybe Logan is more customer focused than Joe "idaho" ??

 

[mag00]

The reply to my recent request:-

"Thank you for your interest in our product. Sorry, but we don't have anything available for your TR 650. As we expand our product line there could be something available in the future, but there is no ETA of if, or when. Please keep checking our website as we will be sure to update it with up and coming products. In the mean time I will add this to our list of requested products. Have a great day and let us know if you need anything else."

“Idaho” Joe Boisvert
Sales, Marketing, & Technical Support
P: 208-426-0659 Ext. 716
E: joe@rekluse.com

My response:-
"Hi Joe
On the Cafehusly Forum there's a member who is working with you Guys & has fitted one to his TR
Are you sure that you don't have one for the TR"
Cheers
Just maybe Logan is more customer focused than Joe "idaho" ??

The Rekluse for the TR650 does not exist (yet). I was fortunate enough to get the last prototype disks. I was able to convince the design team (Logan) to move forward on it again, but no guarantee it will ever go to market.


I however am confident there will be a solution. Might just take a little while.

Requesting a Rekluse for the TR650 can show interest in the product. The design and hard parts production is only part. They will still need to box label and redo website. Instructions need to be made and printed, and I will be supplying some of that info best I can, with pictures measurements and probably even video.

I'm really not supposed to be sharing alot in public forum, but like I told them, it is hard to contain my excitement, and I want them to know there is an interest. We are a small market compared to the other bikes they develop for.

The only reason I even knew about this was from when I called long ago to see if they had one for the Terra, they did have it for the BMW 650. I was told way back then that the were working on it for Terra, which they were. Then later when I had money I called again, and they did not, evidently it was shelved due to the noise when engaging the clutch.

I saw the product for the 650 and figured I would order it and try it. That is when I started this topic. When I notified them that it did not work, they were willing to take it back and refund me. Everything else seemed to fit, but the spline count was wrong and I just figured they sent the wrong setup.

So I asked for a new set of disks, and they confirmed that they did not make a set for the Terra. Somehow I was put in touch with Logan, we talked once, and it has been pretty much email since.

 

[engineerk9]

The Rekluse for the TR650 does not exist (yet). I was fortunate enough to get the last prototype disks. I was able to convince the design team (Logan) to move forward on it again, but no guarantee it will ever go to market.


I however am confident there will be a solution. Might just take a little while.

Requesting a Rekluse for the TR650 can show interest in the product. The design and hard parts production is only part. They will still need to box label and redo website. Instructions need to be made and printed, and I will be supplying some of that info best I can, with pictures measurements and probably even video.

I'm really not supposed to be sharing alot in public forum, but like I told them, it is hard to contain my excitement, and I want them to know there is an interest. We are a small market compared to the other bikes they develop for.

The only reason I even knew about this was from when I called long ago to see if they had one for the Terra, they did have it for the BMW 650. I was told way back then that the were working on it for Terra, which they were. Then later when I had money I called again, and they did not, evidently it was shelved due to the noise when engaging the clutch.

I saw the product for the 650 and figured I would order it and try it. That is when I started this topic. When I notified them that it did not work, they were willing to take it back and refund me. Everything else seemed to fit, but the spline count was wrong and I just figured they sent the wrong setup.

So I asked for a new set of disks, and they confirmed that they did not make a set for the Terra. Somehow I was put in touch with Logan, we talked once, and it has been pretty much email since.

Well done Magoo

I have experienced previously with US companies that within the one organisation one Guy will be truly enthusiastic & helpful & another doesn't give a flying f*****

 

[engineerk9]

The Rekluse for the TR650 does not exist (yet). I was fortunate enough to get the last prototype disks. I was able to convince the design team (Logan) to move forward on it again, but no guarantee it will ever go to market.


I however am confident there will be a solution. Might just take a little while.

Requesting a Rekluse for the TR650 can show interest in the product. The design and hard parts production is only part. They will still need to box label and redo website. Instructions need to be made and printed, and I will be supplying some of that info best I can, with pictures measurements and probably even video.

I'm really not supposed to be sharing alot in public forum, but like I told them, it is hard to contain my excitement, and I want them to know there is an interest. We are a small market compared to the other bikes they develop for.

The only reason I even knew about this was from when I called long ago to see if they had one for the Terra, they did have it for the BMW 650. I was told way back then that the were working on it for Terra, which they were. Then later when I had money I called again, and they did not, evidently it was shelved due to the noise when engaging the clutch.

I saw the product for the 650 and figured I would order it and try it. That is when I started this topic. When I notified them that it did not work, they were willing to take it back and refund me. Everything else seemed to fit, but the spline count was wrong and I just figured they sent the wrong setup.

So I asked for a new set of disks, and they confirmed that they did not make a set for the Terra. Somehow I was put in touch with Logan, we talked once, and it has been pretty much email since.

Logan being super helpful

 

[Norman Foley]

An EFM auto clutch is your solution. Gary can build a unit for any bike. It is the ball and ramp style, like the older Rekluse, but easier to set up than a Rekluse and more bullet proof. You need to send your clutch basket or donor to him for machining.

When Rekluse would not build a unit for the Husky CR/WR125 almost 10 years ago, Joe Chod here on CH went to Gary. EFM gave us a clutch, that became the standard for the bike. After 8 years with one in my WR125 and 3 years of a Rekluse EXP in my Husaberg TE250.... I would go EFM, if I needed another auto clutch.
http://www.efmautoclutch.com/

 

[mag00]

An EFM auto clutch is your solution. Gary can build a unit for any bike. It is the ball and ramp style, like the older Rekluse, but easier to set up than a Rekluse and more bullet proof. You need to send your clutch basket or donor to him for machining.

When Rekluse would not build a unit for the Husky CR/WR125 almost 10 years ago, Joe Chod here on CH went to Gary. EFM gave us a clutch, that became the standard for the bike. After 8 years with one in my WR125 and 3 years of a Rekluse EXP in my Husaberg TE250.... I would go EFM, if I needed another auto clutch.
http://www.efmautoclutch.com/

There are a couple guys who make the custom auto clutch. I was looking around for my XR250. None of them retain the clutch lever except Rekluse. Price is a little higher, but fairly close.

Why do you prefer the EFM to the Rekluse?

 

[Norman Foley]

There are a couple guys who make the custom auto clutch. I was looking around for my XR250. None of them retain the clutch lever except Rekluse. Price is a little higher, but fairly close.

Why do you prefer the EFM to the Rekluse?

With the EFM you retain the lever. You couldn't ride a 125 2T effectively, without being able to manually modulate the clutch.

EFM has a simpler set up than both Rekluse Z Start Pro and EXP and I've had less clutch wear with the EFM. Clutch plates last much longer with EFM, even when you abuse the clutch more riding a 125 2T compared to a 250 2T with more torque.

 

[engineerk9]

With the EFM you retain the lever. You couldn't ride a 125 2T effectively, without being able to manually modulate the clutch.

EFM has a simpler set up than both Rekluse Z Start Pro and EXP and I've had less clutch wear with the EFM. Clutch plates last much longer with EFM, even when you abuse the clutch more riding a 125 2T compared to a 250 2T with more torque.

I can't see from the EFM pictures exactly how it works, the Rekluse appears to rely on the springs to press the plates together, be better to have a system that pressed the plates together mechanically depending upon engine speed, thereby eliminating clutch slip at high loads

I emailed them for more info

 

[Norman Foley]

EFM and Rekluse Z-Start Pro, rely on springs and ball and ramp pressure plate. EXP has friction plate with springs and wedges, that expands. Good luck guys, as I have no interest in TR650's, my work here is done.....

 

[TE250Guy]

So, has anyone put an EFM in a TR650? Or contacted the company? The idea of a Recluse drop-in is appealing if for no other reason that it should be easier to revert to stock if something went wrong. Thanks to all for your researh on this.

 

[engineerk9]

So, has anyone put an EFM in a TR650? Or contacted the company? The idea of a Recluse drop-in is appealing if for no other reason that it should be easier to revert to stock if something went wrong. Thanks to all for your researh on this.

EFM rep;ied to my request:-

"We modify the clutch send to us, 695.00 plus shipping, you might have to do some grinding on the inside of the cover if it rubs.
Thank you for the interest in EFM auto clutch.
Garry Buzzelli
3101 State Route 14
Rootstown, Oh. 44272
330 947 1700
www.efmautoclutch.com"

 

[Xcuvator]

Another thumbs up for the EFM!
I have three Zstarts that have needed more frequent adjustment.
They are a little more but they come built for your clutch/bike so plug and play.