• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

SWM 650 -> The 630 returns!

How much knowledge transfer was done between Husky and SWM?
I'm thinking that to get the bikes to market as soon as possible they had no time to do any redesign.
 
Having a part fail without warning that could cause loss of power or the engine to stop and engine to lock while in traffic, freeway, etc, is a safety issue. I'd argue the wiring under the battery where it passes over the sharp metal bracket, wears through, causing stalling, loss of power, and a possible fire should be a recall too. It's happened to more than a few TE's.
 
To install in the clutch hub the OEM cup washers or the Improved ones, makes not a different regarding to company profit, as both, the OEM or the improved ones costs approximately the same. So, in my opinion there are three possibilities
1. - The Italian SWM engineers (former Husky engineers) are (sorry) kind of short minded (not too intelligent, let’s say)
2. –They know that the improved cup washers are not a good solution... and so they keep silent
3.- They know that the improved cup washers are a good solution but SWM managing director don't give a dam... so he becomes right away the stupid guy of the company
 
The good thing is that it keeps an aftermarket company in business. It also keeps those of you with a 630 in parts. Would you rather have then decide not to produce the bike at all just because of clutch washers?
 
Huskynoobee said:
The good thing is that it keeps an aftermarket company in business. It also keeps those of you with a 630 in parts. Would you rather have then decide not to produce the bike at all just because of clutch washers?
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You're right, 100%

But, the point is, at least for me, is hard to understand why SMW don't make those tiny changes that costs nothing...
Would I recommend the new SWM 650R to a friend, knowing all the small (and big) issues that it has?
Only a few changes on the SWM 650 R and I would recommend it. No changes... I would not recommend it.
 
For (Australian) people interested in the Superdual: I got this answer today from SWM to a question about when they would be landing here: "Australia will be among the first countries to receive it, normally end of November"
 
motranqui said:
To install in the clutch hub the OEM cup washers or the Improved ones, makes not a different regarding to company profit, as both, the OEM or the improved ones costs approximately the same. So, in my opinion there are three possibilities
1. - The Italian SWM engineers (former Husky engineers) are (sorry) kind of short minded (not too intelligent, let’s say)
2. –They know that the improved cup washers are not a good solution... and so they keep silent
3.- They know that the improved cup washers are a good solution but SWM managing director don't give a dam... so he becomes right away the stupid guy of the company
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Perhaps there is also option 4, (say) husky/swm engineering know that the thick hardened washers are not as good a solution as simply treating the whole issue as a service item. that cover has to come off for routine service anway. a normally set up shop will have those washers and springs replaced in and hour or 2.
If home servicing owners are unable or unwilling to service the clutch, and too cheap to pay the shop 2 hours labour to do it, perhaps they should consider buying a klr instead.
Don't mean to be rude but it seems to me that this issue has been blown out of proportion .

Mattc. SWM owner. Ex klr owner.
 
mattc said:
Perhaps there is also option 4, (say) husky/swm engineering know that the thick hardened washers are not as good a solution as simply treating the whole issue as a service item. that cover has to come off for routine service anway. a normally set up shop will have those washers and springs replaced in and hour or 2.
If home servicing owners are unable or unwilling to service the clutch, and too cheap to pay the shop 2 hours labour to do it, perhaps they should consider buying a klr instead.
Don't mean to be rude but it seems to me that this issue has been blown out of proportion .

Mattc. SWM owner. Ex klr owner.
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Most normal service items don't require a torch, a drill and a big hammer. If it were meant to be serviced, it seems they would make it more convenient to service than having to drill out and replace the solid rivets.

I'm one of the lucky ones, I've got 15K miles on my SMS with the original washers, but I've got a set of cups and rivets to replace them the next time I'm in the clutch, probably this winter, as the factory ones are starting to get a little thin.
 
RDTCU said:
Most normal service items don't require a torch, a drill and a big hammer. If it were meant to be serviced, it seems they would make it more convenient to service than having to drill out and replace the solid rivets.

I'm one of the lucky ones, I've got 15K miles on my SMS with the original washers, but I've got a set of cups and rivets to replace them the next time I'm in the clutch, probably this winter, as the factory ones are starting to get a little thin.
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Actually the service manual states that is should be inspected every 10k kms.
 
Most normal service items don't require a torch, a drill and a big hammer.
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In the world of competition bikes where this engine originated, full engine rebuilds are more frequent than this clutch service and require significantly more equipment than that.
I agree, it is irritating to have to service (or repair, if you like) an assembly this often. But the actual work involved is not really very much, or very expensive. It's only irritating. Exaggerating the technical aspects to illustrate our irritation does not increase the actual work and IMO risks putting potential owners off what i think is a very, very good buy. New bike for the price of second hand.
All my opinion only of course. We all have one...

MattC.
 
Well im confident mine is fixed, and will last the life of the basket.
My basket is notched and will need filing down soon. The washers should last as long as the basket. My washers might even be good for use with a new basket, if im still lucky enough to own the bike when it needs replacing. I have no regrets fitting upgraded washers and believe it was the best solution to the problem.

Caboose said:
Actually the service manual states that is should be inspected every 10k kms.
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Mine didnt even last that long, they were worn through by 8000 kms.
 
Hi Rotax I had one sent to me yesterday electronically. PM me your email and I will see if I can send it to you.
 
Any updates on these SWMs? From what I've seen so far I wouldn't be surprised if they have given up on the whole thing.
 
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