• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

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Actual news on the KTM purchase of Husqvarna

Nobody has offered lower cost enduro bikes that are reasonable quality, for one thing. Most of the cheap dirt bikes offered for sale right now are just that....CHEAP. And I mean little wheels, bad suspension, plastic engine covers, gutless motors, questionable carburetors CHEAP. Pep Boys used to sell little dirt bikes and quads for really cheap, but they didn't do it for very long. The machines performed poorly, had terrible parts....which were not available if the customer broke any of them....which they did, and often.

I would think that somebody could offer acceptable performing full sized trail bikes with technology from the last ten years that would be reasonably reliable units, and at a reasonable price....maybe a couple thousand dollars less than the top shelf machines. Look at all the people that will buy a brand new DRZ400, and those things are certainly not state of the art. Yet PLENTY of people are willing to shell out 6500 dollars for one of those! Our local dualsport club is loaded with DRZ400 owners. Those who spend a lot of time in the dirt, eventually tire of the slow and heavy bikes and purchase a Euro enduro. But the plain old boat anchor is what they start out on. These are the kind of people who would spend 4 0r 5 grand on a clone that had some quality control going for it.

I have long said that a simple lower cost bike would sell, IE......No linkage suspenion like PDS, Aircooled. standard cartridge forks or at least open chamber forks. Simple like a Honda XR200 or Hodaka. OR, A Hodaka 125 / 175 engine in a Honda XR200R frame with a PDS type rear shock. Disc brakes if possible but nothing wrong with a good set of drum brakes. Simple like what Hodaka or Honda offered. Maybe not state of the art but solid reliable and decent handling. I would go for one for sure.
 
But it has to be reasonably priced.
That's my beef with the Japanese manufacturers. They keep churning out bikes many years past their prime for today's money. When dual sports started to get popular, Honda street legalized the CRF 230 (a throwback from the 70's), and it was almost $6000 in Canada. When that didn't work, they came out with the CRF250L. It was cheaper, and a much better bike, but still less bike than Kawasaki's 80's tech KLX250, and it's a new bike. :rolleyes:
 
I don't think they would do well here. People want to finer things in life and would probably just buy used. What they need to do is build the mx bikes bulletproof so people arent nervouse buying used.
 
You can get a new WR300 for less than $6,500 that will vastly outperform a DRZ400 (and probably make the average DRZ400 rider crap themselves in the process).

But the DRz is street legal and you can swap in supermoto wheels. Far more versatile. Unless you buy a non-street legal version of course, but why would anyone buy a non-street legal DRz? :excuseme:
 
It is sad imo that there's very little to fill the gap between the venerable and portly DRZ and pukka enduro machines. I guess that it's just too easy for manufacturers to take a competition bike, cork it up to the point where it barely runs in order to get it through emissions / noise, put a plate on it and stick it in the showroom window - complete with close ratio gearbox, a fuel tank that's half a gallon short, a sump that holds a spoonful of oil, a headlight that is worse than useless, a seat that's too high for many mere mortals and a general air of "money pit". Supermotos suffer a lot of the same problems, so perhaps it's no coincidence that no-one seems to be buying them either. Race bikes are for racing - tooling around on one for "pleasure" takes a lot of dedication. Ever ride a GSXR-SP homologation bike on a public road? it gets old pretty quickly!

Cheap plated secondhand thumpers are ten a penny over here - you can't give one away, because unless you have access to a closed area where you can let one rip they just don't make that much sense. Our local dirt bike workshop is full of grenaded ones too... A lot of the older guys here (and most of us are "older") are still riding DRs, CRMs and other twenty-odd year old tackle because they're maybe not tall, or particularly fit, or because they prefer to "finesse" their way up a tricky climb, rather than go balls-out and risk eating tree! We also share public access with dog walkers, hikers, horse riders and 4x4 drivers, so race pace is out of the question. A bit of tarmac is also unavoidable on a ride out and being relegated to 50mph in order to keep your conrod where it belongs is a drag.

Many of the enduro bike's shortcomings can be fixed with hard parts (or a Beta-style build-your-own scheme), but imo a practical bike really needs a motor and ancilliaries designed from the ground up for that purpose, but the problem is whether anyone is actually willing to pay for one. Purists will probably balk at the idea of extra weight in the form of a bulkier motor, but any extra weight will be low and central and designing a mechanically quiet engine and airbox from the outset will make the bike easier to silence without corking it up completely. Pragmatically speaking any extra weight could be mitigated by losing an inch of suspension travel and lowering the seat - we're not building a race bike, after all. I don't think that existing enduro style chassis are otherwise impractical, but the option of a headlight that doesn't suck shouldn't be too much to ask in the 21st century (it gets dark pretty early here in winter). Perhaps I could live without linkage suspension, but I get the feeling that leaving the linkage off won't make a bike any cheaper. It's a few less Chinese bearings for the factory to forget to fill with grease though, so maybe it's a good idea to get rid of 'em. Get the right spring and PDS isn't too bad and if the tech became commonplace it would only improve.

Did someone mention drum brakes? Egad, no! Too much unsprung mass and rotational inertia, plus there's that millisecond of waiting for the lock up every time they're applied. I don't imagine that they would save any money either, or attract a lot of customers. Widowmakers.

Anyway, that's enough ranting and wishful thinking for one night. :)
 
It is sad imo that there's very little to fill the gap between the venerable and portly DRZ and pukka enduro machines. I guess that it's just too easy for manufacturers to take a competition bike, cork it up to the point where it barely runs in order to get it through emissions / noise, put a plate on it and stick it in the showroom window - complete with close ratio gearbox, a fuel tank that's half a gallon short, a sump that holds a spoonful of oil, a headlight that is worse than useless, a seat that's too high for many mere mortals and a general air of "money pit". Supermotos suffer a lot of the same problems, so perhaps it's no coincidence that no-one seems to be buying them either. Race bikes are for racing - tooling around on one for "pleasure" takes a lot of dedication. Ever ride a GSXR-SP homologation bike on a public road? it gets old pretty quickly!

Cheap plated secondhand thumpers are ten a penny over here - you can't give one away, because unless you have access to a closed area where you can let one rip they just don't make that much sense. Our local dirt bike workshop is full of grenaded ones too... A lot of the older guys here (and most of us are "older") are still riding DRs, CRMs and other twenty-odd year old tackle because they're maybe not tall, or particularly fit, or because they prefer to "finesse" their way up a tricky climb, rather than go balls-out and risk eating tree! We also share public access with dog walkers, hikers, horse riders and 4x4 drivers, so race pace is out of the question. A bit of tarmac is also unavoidable on a ride out and being relegated to 50mph in order to keep your conrod where it belongs is a drag.

Many of the enduro bike's shortcomings can be fixed with hard parts (or a Beta-style build-your-own scheme), but imo a practical bike really needs a motor and ancilliaries designed from the ground up for that purpose, but the problem is whether anyone is actually willing to pay for one. Purists will probably balk at the idea of extra weight in the form of a bulkier motor, but any extra weight will be low and central and designing a mechanically quiet engine and airbox from the outset will make the bike easier to silence without corking it up completely. Pragmatically speaking any extra weight could be mitigated by losing an inch of suspension travel and lowering the seat - we're not building a race bike, after all. I don't think that existing enduro style chassis are otherwise impractical, but the option of a headlight that doesn't suck shouldn't be too much to ask in the 21st century (it gets dark pretty early here in winter). Perhaps I could live without linkage suspension, but I get the feeling that leaving the linkage off won't make a bike any cheaper. It's a few less Chinese bearings for the factory to forget to fill with grease though, so maybe it's a good idea to get rid of 'em. Get the right spring and PDS isn't too bad and if the tech became commonplace it would only improve.

Did someone mention drum brakes? Egad, no! Too much unsprung mass and rotational inertia, plus there's that millisecond of waiting for the lock up every time they're applied. I don't imagine that they would save any money either, or attract a lot of customers. Widowmakers.

Anyway, that's enough ranting and wishful thinking for one night. :)

I was thinking to myself the other day a 400 and 600/650 version of Yamaha's WR-R would be good. Good performance plus good reliability. Only problem they would be marked as 'Trailbikes' and 'Dual-sport'. Nothing wrong with that but think of the last time you spoke to someone who wasn't totally into bikes, I'll bet the only bike they know of that is any good is a 450 cause that's what the pros race, so thats what they buy. Prompting manufactures to drop other lines in favour of high tech high strung machines that require more care than an xr/dr-z platform. Man I miss the 90's.
 
Did someone mention drum brakes? Egad, no! Too much unsprung mass and rotational inertia, plus there's that millisecond of waiting for the lock up every time they're applied. I don't imagine that they would save any money either, or attract a lot of customers. Widowmakers.

First world yes ... Over here, where 30MPH is fast, you gotta have a disc front brake for a couple reasons, but drums will work on the rear ... They'll move to all discs in the near future I'd guess but not wearing helmets are the widow-makers here .... Rusi's competition here (~$1,300)

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Check out the 2-3 piece rear fender with the light and tag holder under the bottom :)

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If anyone remembers the $800 Schucks bikes sold in the states, this bike here is 1 notch above it ... 1 small notch because the Schucks bike was total crap.
 
How much do those sort of bikes cost over there? My Dad keeps trying to get me to go over with him, might factor one of those into the budget when I head over one day.
 
How much do those sort of bikes cost over there? My Dad keeps trying to get me to go over with him, might factor one of those into the budget when I head over one day.

Its about 1,300$ at todays $ exchange rate but you don't want that bike ... Its gonna break for sure if you do anything other than street riding or very very slow dirt riding ... Where is your Dad? Is he riding dirt bikes over here? I need to talk with him if so ..

:eek: Whoa, open bath forks.. I wonder if he has any teeth left? Love the front tire, kinda looks like.. :doh:

There is a big rubber problem here ... Bald eagle brand tires are the norm here because of the expense of tires ...
 
Thats all I'd use it for, just exploring, maybe get up to the provinces for a look. I dont realy see the point of going to another country just to hang around the bars that are run to make westerners feel at home. My dad is in Australia, his wife is a Phillipino though. The old boy hasn't ridden since the DT 250 first came out :oldman:
 
drum brakes????
no way, go through water and you are doomed
remember once my brother crossed a creek took a run at a hill, did not make it and the brakes were wet on descent
 
Thats all I'd use it for, just exploring, maybe get up to the provinces for a look. I dont realy see the point of going to another country just to hang around the bars that are run to make westerners feel at home. My dad is in Australia, his wife is a Phillipino though. The old boy hasn't ridden since the DT 250 first came out :oldman:

Australians and Filipinos are a great matchup :0) for a few reasons ... You better stop here and get a Husky if headed to the providences ... You'll be glad you did after you see the cool riding terrain and the DT 125 is work horse here today ... Dad can probably find his 1st model here and I bet he is ready to ride by now...

Don't under estimate these bikes or this crowd for technical ST ... I got whipped so badly last weekend that I'll be taking my Husky back to finish a climb out of a valley that I balked on due to fatigue ..
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It is sad imo that there's very little to fill the gap between the venerable and portly DRZ and pukka enduro machines. I guess that it's just too easy for manufacturers to take a competition bike, cork it up to the point where it barely runs in order to get it through emissions / noise, put a plate on it and stick it in the showroom window - complete with close ratio gearbox, a fuel tank that's half a gallon short, a sump that holds a spoonful of oil, a headlight that is worse than useless, a seat that's too high for many mere mortals and a general air of "money pit". Supermotos suffer a lot of the same problems, so perhaps it's no coincidence that no-one seems to be buying them either. Race bikes are for racing - tooling around on one for "pleasure" takes a lot of dedication. Ever ride a GSXR-SP homologation bike on a public road? it gets old pretty quickly!

Cheap plated secondhand thumpers are ten a penny over here - you can't give one away, because unless you have access to a closed area where you can let one rip they just don't make that much sense. Our local dirt bike workshop is full of grenaded ones too... A lot of the older guys here (and most of us are "older") are still riding DRs, CRMs and other twenty-odd year old tackle because they're maybe not tall, or particularly fit, or because they prefer to "finesse" their way up a tricky climb, rather than go balls-out and risk eating tree! We also share public access with dog walkers, hikers, horse riders and 4x4 drivers, so race pace is out of the question. A bit of tarmac is also unavoidable on a ride out and being relegated to 50mph in order to keep your conrod where it belongs is a drag.

Many of the enduro bike's shortcomings can be fixed with hard parts (or a Beta-style build-your-own scheme), but imo a practical bike really needs a motor and ancilliaries designed from the ground up for that purpose, but the problem is whether anyone is actually willing to pay for one. Purists will probably balk at the idea of extra weight in the form of a bulkier motor, but any extra weight will be low and central and designing a mechanically quiet engine and airbox from the outset will make the bike easier to silence without corking it up completely. Pragmatically speaking any extra weight could be mitigated by losing an inch of suspension travel and lowering the seat - we're not building a race bike, after all. I don't think that existing enduro style chassis are otherwise impractical, but the option of a headlight that doesn't suck shouldn't be too much to ask in the 21st century (it gets dark pretty early here in winter). Perhaps I could live without linkage suspension, but I get the feeling that leaving the linkage off won't make a bike any cheaper. It's a few less Chinese bearings for the factory to forget to fill with grease though, so maybe it's a good idea to get rid of 'em. Get the right spring and PDS isn't too bad and if the tech became commonplace it would only improve.

Did someone mention drum brakes? Egad, no! Too much unsprung mass and rotational inertia, plus there's that millisecond of waiting for the lock up every time they're applied. I don't imagine that they would save any money either, or attract a lot of customers. Widowmakers.

Anyway, that's enough ranting and wishful thinking for one night. :)

I just uncork it, change the teaspoon of oil frequently, and ride like hell (or at least the old fat guy version of it). If it grenades, I'll box up the engine and ship it to ZipTy and see what they can do about it.
 
Australians and Filipinos are a great matchup :0) for a few reasons ... You better stop here and get a Husky if headed to the providences ... You'll be glad you did after you see the cool riding terrain and the DT 125 is work horse here today ... Dad can probably find his 1st model here and I bet he is ready to ride by now...

Don't under estimate these bikes or this crowd for technical ST ... I got whipped so badly last weekend that I'll be taking my Husky back to finish a climb out of a valley that I balked on due to fatigue ..
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Filipino women are the most beautiful in the world, and San Miguel beer is the nectar of the gods.
 
I was thinking to myself the other day a 400 and 600/650 version of Yamaha's WR-R would be good. Good performance plus good reliability. Only problem they would be marked as 'Trailbikes' and 'Dual-sport'. Nothing wrong with that but think of the last time you spoke to someone who wasn't totally into bikes, I'll bet the only bike they know of that is any good is a 450 cause that's what the pros race, so thats what they buy. Prompting manufactures to drop other lines in favour of high tech high strung machines that require more care than an xr/dr-z platform. Man I miss the 90's.

Yeah, the little WR-R would have benefitted hugely from a couple hundred extra cc. Not a bad bike with an FMF and a couple of teeth on the rear sprocket though, even if it was a lot of money and too road biassed in the chassis / bodywork department. As for a 600 / 650 - that would have been sweet, a next-gen XT...
 
I just uncork it, change the teaspoon of oil frequently, and ride like hell (or at least the old fat guy version of it). If it grenades, I'll box up the engine and ship it to ZipTy and see what they can do about it.

Having somewhere to ride like hell makes it all worthwhile (apart from the grenading bit), but sometimes it's a marathon, not a sprint. :)
 
I don't mind the grenading part, in fact, oil doesn't really need to be changed. Just relax and enjoy your ride... :D
 
So... any actual news on the buy out? Since the move of the warehouses is happening at this time I thought maybe something official would be announced this week.
 
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