• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

B E T A the super Tuscan.

Some damn fine options. Wish I could afford a second bike. It would definitely be a 2 smoke. But the "Big Bad Wolf" just keeps going & going, never lacking power. Looking forward to hearing about 4 stroke Lectron use. :cheers:
 
So the new 300 has slight frame mods to improve handling, a larger and clear tank, and some suspension changes. Not bad for a second year. I'd think the tank alone is a pretty major upgrade for people looking. TM's are cool but I have to admit, the new shercos looking amazing :)
 
Motosportz said:
I'm pretty happy with my current stable and it covers everything I need and setup the way I want them. If I was shopping for a new bike I'm not sure it would be the new rebadged KTM's and am interested to see where this husky thing goes. I think at this point if looking for a new bike it would be the 300 Beta 2 stroke. All that said I am holding out hope for some nice new Huskys that are a large departure from the current KTM line but all I hear is basically the husky name is replacing the Husaberg name which in my mind means mostly rebadged KTM's which makes no sense from my standpoint as I can already buy one of those should I choose. I did hear some very cool news today about some efforts with the new huskys / KTM which I liked and am happy about (not going to say a word so don't ask) and hope for good things. Time will tell.

Betas, TM, Sherco, GG... if you want unique ero bikes there are still very nice choices.
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TEASE:banghead:
 
hammer said:
Why not buy a GasGas for less money?
Here in Ontario they gave me a price of $10,000 for a demo. No thanks!
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And it seems to be a GG copy that would be real hard to get parts for. I like the bike but it would be a stretch for someone to pull the trigger on that. I did see one in impound at the ISDE Qualifier so they are out there.
 
Just got some info on the 2014 2t Beta's:
2.5 gal. clear tanks
Frame stiffening
A lot of changes to the fork and shock.
Improved front fender.
Still 7999.00 price.
Sounds like they have been listening and have already acted.
 
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  • Press Release:
    American Beta is pleased to announce their 2014 RR models. The company from Florence, Italy has turned 110 years old this year and is celebrating in a big way by further improving their off road line up. All of the bikes receive updates in the chassis and engine departments to further enhance the "Rideability" of the bikes. Beta takes pride in developing their products with a focus on ease of riding and the 2014 models prove this once again.

    Six models will be offered for 2014 including the Revolutionary 250 and 300 RR two strokes. The bikes return with features such as full rear suspension linkage, front and rear lights, full skid plate, FMF plated exhaust with an FMF muffler, extra front number plate to replace the headlight, Nissin brakes with stainless steel wave rotors, electric start, as well as a backup kick starter .
    New features for 2014 start with a focus on suspension refinement.




    The front fork has a smaller inner cartridge as well as updated compression and rebound pistons to improve the oil flow. The valving has also been changed for an improvement over the square-edge hits. The top fork cap has been updated to make spring changes easier. Finally, new oil has been added to tie everything together. At the back end, the bikes receive a reshaped rebound adjuster which allows for a more precise adjustment. The shock also receives updated valving and a heavier rear 5.2 kg spring.


    The frame on all two strokes has been enhanced by reducing stress to the heavy weighted areas. As shown in the diagram, the frame areas that are in light blue or yellow are the heaviest impacted under extreme conditions. These areas are normally red in color under heavy impacts however the Beta engineering team has reduced all the areas to a yellow or light blue which represents roughly a 20% reduction of stress to the frame. This translates to less feedback to the rider, hence making the bike easier to ride and manage.


    The fuel tank size has been increase from two gallon to a 2.5 gallon for increased range. The tank is now a natural (clear) color making it easier to fill and see how much is in the tank. It also adds to the bikes race look. A new front fender provides better protection for the rider from mud and water. The design is stronger than the 2013 model and is more rigid in design. The seat base has also been redesigned for a better fit to the frame and provides more comfort to the rider. The seat continues to be a push button release, this along with the quick-access air filter makes for an easy air filter change.





    Also new for 2014 is an oil check plug in the clutch cover. This feature makes it easy to check the clutch and transmission oil. Other updates include a new power valve mechanism for the 250 RR that provides improved performance at low rpm and a smoother transition throughout the power range. There are new brake disks that have an improved heat treatment for more durability.

    The best news of all is the prices remain the same for 2014 at an industry low $7999.00 for either the 250 or 300 RR models!

    The 2014 4 Stroke models were not left alone as they received The same suspension updates as the two strokers along with the frame updates to reduce stress. All of the RR 4 strokes receive the new front fender and seat base as well.



    The four stroke engines receive a new countershaft as well as a new heat treating process with new, more durable bearings. The shift drum has been modified to improve shifting as well. The 350 RR receives a new piston with an updated profile and added lubrication holes to increase reliability and oil consumption.


    Prices for the 2014 RR Models are as follows:

    2 Stroke:
    250 RR $7999.00
    300 RR $7999.00

    4 Stroke:
    350 RR $8999.00
    400 RR $8999.00
    450 RR $9199.00
    498 RR $9399.00


    Beta's BYOB program returns for 2014 with more options added for 2014. The program has proven successful as 30% of Beta's sold in the US market have been through the BYOB program. "The BYOB program has taken us by surprise, we started it so riders can put a few Beta accessories on their bike and since it has boomed as we have found riders and racers are building "Dream Bikes" from the program. I do not like to ship some of them off as they are too beautiful to ride in the dirt!" Marketing Manager Tim Pilg explains.

    2014 Models will available in August.

    The 2014 RS Dual Sport Line will be announced in the next 30 days. These models will be all new for the new year boasting features not found on the competition.

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    Press Release from Facebook this afternoon. Thought i would share. Just FYI. The BETA vibe is kinda like the Husky vibe of 5-6 years ago. Part of being a family owned biz i guess.
 
Camstyn said:
Yes Steahly makes FWW's for the TM 250/300. I would think that a FWW and Lectron carb would really mellow it out for those who want a more subtle power delivery.

Clutch plates are aluminum and can be swapped with several other bikes so steel plates are definitely a possibility to add more inertia.

I know the MX models are getting rated poorly for having way too stiff of valving for anyone less than a national level pro, but that's what they are intended for.. The EN models are valved much plusher and from the sounds of things the EN would probably be a great do-it-all track/trail bike. And they're really in the same price range as all of the other non-Husky euro bikes. Pretty impressive for the build quality and all of the trick parts that come included for that price. I am of the opinion that they are the highest quality bikes on the market by far and am surprised that they aren't more expensive than what they are.
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Buddy of mine has a '12 TM250 EN. I really like the motor and found it to be very similar to my WR250. Maybe a bit less off bottom and a bit more on the very top. I felt perfectly at home jumping on the bike.
 
robertaccio said:
I am throwing this out there, not for any dispute ,for no other reason than that I am a TM Racing (small artisan brand) bandwagon backer and want all Italian/EU bike fans to think about this......much media reporting and personal ride notes have been made about the AA racer aggressive power and suspension style of the TM Racing machines especially the 2T models.
These bikes come with Kokusan ignitions, I'm sure one can easily find a comparable FFW from Steahly or another manufacturer that would bolt right up onto the industry standard Kokusan rotor (flywheel) to tame the beast, as well as (if it doesnt come with them?) a steel clutch plate set to add more mass to the drive line. As for suspension, we all know how much can be done with that, from full SX stiff to extreme enduro plush. I love the OEM Beta 300RR set up they are engineered and set up for enduro/xc, but even if the TMs are setup more to the extreme side (they are) anything can be adjusted.
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If the Beta dealership opportunity had not come along, I probably would have gone the TM Racing route and tuned the bike to my liking. I don't think I have any Italian blood in me, but ever since my time racing boats in Europe in the 80's and 90's, I have had a taste for all things Italian!
Who knows, maybe when I get on my feet with the Beta shop, I will take on TM as well.

It is interesting at a time that the Japanese don't even recognize us as a market share, the Europeans are going crazy developing great enduro bikes. Like Kelly says, lots of good choices.
 
Mike Kay said:
  • The 2014 RS Dual Sport Line will be announced in the next 30 days. These models will be all new for the new year boasting features not found on the competition.

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    Press Release from Facebook this afternoon. Thought i would share. Just FYI. The BETA vibe is kinda like the Husky vibe of 5-6 years ago. Part of being a family owned biz i guess.
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I agree about the 'what Husqvarna was' comment, and will assume the 'dual sport line' will be the ones with license plates. Let us know about those, hopefully (at least as far as I am concerned) the 'features not found on the competition' will include a newtonian fuel pump (gravity) and utilize Bernoulli fueling (carb).
 
We need a Beta section before we lose robertaccio...well atleast a euro bike section. He doesn't know if he's getting a Fantic, Gas Gas, Sherco, TM, or Beta lol
 
I'm always lost no matter..no need for a new section.., PS robertaccio will be on the TXC310R for a while still.
 
Coffee said:
I agree about the 'what Husqvarna was' comment, and will assume the 'dual sport line' will be the ones with license plates. Let us know about those, hopefully (at least as far as I am concerned) the 'features not found on the competition' will include a newtonian fuel pump (gravity) and utilize Bernoulli fueling (carb).
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Not only is Beta sticking with gravity feed carbs for the time being, they are jetted perfectly out of the crate, you would think they are EFI.

Plus one on the Beta section, it is pretty rough in the exotic section over at KTM Talk. I have been afraid to make a post for fear one of the KTM defenders will jump on me....
 
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