• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

B E T A the super Tuscan.

Apples and Oranges me amigo. 449/511 are very worthy dual sports, as you point out. The BETA is "not as composed on the street" as you put it. I agree.

The BETA RR bikes are race bikes, with a very very very close range of RS 'street legal race bikes'. Like the stuff we all loved from Husky 450/510 a few years past. BETA doesnt make a dual sport bike to match with the 449/511 (or 610/630). (although in Europe they do have a line of smaller dual sports)

So comparing a 450 BETA with a 449 Husky is always going to be a stretch or at least an odd match up. They are focused on two different market niches.

Compare a 450 BETA with a 450 KTM or Yamaha or Honda or Sherco, etc. The street legal aspect of the BETA is simply to ride into town and get gas or food, or to link up one trail with another. Its not meant to be ridden long stretches on the street. The 449/511 on the other hand are much more comfortable riding to work everyday and then doing some trail work on a weekend jaunt.

I would race a stock off the shelf BETA 450 with a horn and license plate dangling off the rear. I would not race a stock off the shelf 50 state legal Husky 449 (if they still made them...).

BETAs arent for everyone. But they are a good choice for guys with 3-10 year old Huskys that are getting long in the tooth. Guys with 450/510 and 250/300 bikes. And thats exactly what i put in the original post. These are not perfect replacements for 449/511 bikes, as Ride has pointed out. But they are great replacements for our older 450/510 250/300 bikes.

The only place i see Husky and BETA neck and neck is the TXC310 vs. the BETA 350. Thats a bike test i would love to see.

Nice to hear from other BETA guys. Lets see some pics?
 
McKay said:
Lets try a real test, not backed by mag dollars, here's one. http://www.enduro360.com/2012/04/05/products-tested/2012-husqvarna-te511-review/
You also did not allow him his opinion on his site, you tried to sell it to him too. He road it for more then two days in the desert and didn't have ad dollars to sell.
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Dude i get it, you don't like your 449 and I see it is for sale. Chilly seems to not like huskys much and is for sure a KTM lover. And up until just recently there was no love for huskys or mag dollars and they seem to roast every husky, don't bother to set them up when adding aftermarket stuff to KTMs and such. Its fine you don't like it. There are lots of good bikes out there, ride whatever works for you. :thumbsup: The "would you buy another 449" thread shows the actual customers love there 449/511 for the most part and the very few major issue threads seem to show good quality. I have almost 5000 on mine and it has been great. Valves have not moved and no leaks or issues. Been one of the most reliable bikes i have ever owned and I hammer mine pretty good as well as doo long street and gravel miles. Its all good. I like Betas a lot too. They are at the top of my list when I go to buy new again.
 
If we do get a Beta section, exotic section or other brand section, I hope we can use it to discuss the specific bikes, what we like about them, or ask questions about them. We need to respect others choice's and not try to prove our brand is better. I can go to KTM Talk if I want to read someone trashing my brand. I am not directing this at anyone person, just want us to be able to ride what we want and for us all to enjoy reading about other members rides.

Like I have announced, I am starting up a Beta dealership, but I have a WR125 and TC250 in the garage that I am having trouble turning loose.

I think Beta is off to a great start and the fact that they are willing and able to make changes quickly based on needs(such as the 2.5 gal. tank), show they are going to be a player, the bikes will speak for themselves, we don't have to trash Husqvarna or any other brand.
 
I was on a ride in RSV Tecate zona with (on the same ride and rode with his crew for a short while) Chilly when he was testing the OEM stock TE511, this bike was not the correct bike to be on for the ride we did, a 250/310 would have been the better 4T choice. I'm sure he got "hammered down" riding the different feeling big beast on that ride and got a bad taste in his mouth doing it.
 
Motosportz said:
Dude i get it, you don't like your 449 and I see it is for sale. Chilly seems to not like huskys much and is for sure a KTM lover. And up until just recently there was no love for huskys or mag dollars and they seem to roast every husky, don't bother to set them up when adding aftermarket stuff to KTMs and such. Its fine you don't like it. There are lots of good bikes out there, ride whatever works for you. :thumbsup: The "would you buy another 449" thread shows the actual customers love there 449/511 for the most part and the very few major issue threads seem to show good quality. I have almost 5000 on mine and it has been great. Valves have not moved and no leaks or issues. Been one of the most reliable bikes i have ever owned and I hammer mine pretty good as well as doo long street and gravel miles. Its all good. I like Betas a lot too. They are at the top of my list when I go to buy new again.
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No you don't "get it" :banghead: As I've said repeatedly, I like mine, I'm not happy it was sub par when new, PERIOD! I've fixed the issues that should not have existed and its a good machine now. I'm not bashing the dang bike. Its for sale because I don't feel the support will be there in the future.
Its paid for and so are all my bikes and cars, I have no financial need to sell it.

You "LOVE" yours (your caps that you use everywhere) That's awesome, it really is. Some of us don't, some of us think they are just OK and some of us hate them.
Just to be clear for you, my 449 is a fun bike to ride, it runs great now and the only tangible issue is my fear that there will be limited to no support from here on out.
 
McKay said:
No you don't "get it" :banghead: As I've said repeatedly, I like mine, I'm not happy it was sub par when new, PERIOD! I've fixed the issues that should not have existed and its a good machine now. I'm not bashing the dang bike. Its for sale because I don't feel the support will be there in the future.
Its paid for and so are all my bikes and cars, I have no financial need to sell it.

You "LOVE" yours (your caps that you use everywhere) That's awesome, it really is. Some of us don't, some of us think they are just OK and some of us hate them.
Just to be clear for you, my 449 is a fun bike to ride, it runs great now and the only tangible issue is my fear that there will be limited to no support from here on out.
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Ok, no problem. :thumbsup:
 
I got my bases covered with my 2 TE's. I sure would like a red head TE 310 also...but if SP screws the pooch on the mighty H then I for sure would be at Dan and Ann's for a 4T Beta RS.
 
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whatever we do don't let Robertaccio see this or find out there's a normal 300cc 2t off road bike coming right behind it he'll have a stroke for sure Esse Vu Emme wth is that????
 
the '14 300 is on my short list... If I go that route, it will be the BYOB and spec'd with a 19" rear wheel and other top of the line goodies. I will have no prob running it in Vet MX. Most Euro MX bikes are based on Enduros anyway. The TM is hard to ignore however!
 
demi said:
the '14 300 is on my short list... If I go that route, it will be the BYOB and spec'd with a 19" rear wheel and other top of the line goodies. I will have no prob running it in Vet MX. Most Euro MX bikes are based on Enduros anyway. The TM is hard to ignore however!
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I can't wait for you to get rid of the POS you're riding now ;) lol
 
demi said:
the '14 300 is on my short list... If I go that route, it will be the BYOB and spec'd with a 19" rear wheel and other top of the line goodies. I will have no prob running it in Vet MX. Most Euro MX bikes are based on Enduros anyway. The TM is hard to ignore however!
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FYI the Husky wheel works on the Beta with a .060 spacer on the right side.
 
Thanks Hammer. Good info, will come in handy for sure. Pretty psyched on Beta and the value seems hard to beat. From what I hear, support is second to none with parts, tech, etc.
 
robertaccio said:
S W M (esse(S) doppio Vu(W) Emme(M)
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SWM Sammy Wayne Miller British world trials champion way back in the day Esse Vu Emme ??:excuseme: my computer won't translate that ! please enlighten me... i thought the Jotagas mite get something going i think we need a little Spanish in the mix perhaps a berghem 250r
 
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