• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

NO BMW map, or alternative solutions in the UK

The meme that someone is hiding something strikes me as out of place here.
  • Zip-Ty, who is NOT a dealer, found a set of maps ... maybe or maybe not due to their involvement with Husqvarna racing, or through some other channel (BMW dealer? clever programmer?).
  • We have seen some evidence of SOME dealers installing a set of "open pipe/Akra/#3" maps. I see both US and Finland mentioned in this thread.
  • We havent seen any evidence that somehow Husqvarna is hiding anything in this scenario
  • TE maps are deliberately configured to meet various emissions laws which Husqvarna has an obligation to honor.
  • Those who have an upgrade they are willing to provide dont seem to be gouging anyone.
  • Ignorance or other priorities seems to be the main reason we dont have more dealers installing upgraded maps.
    • Note that Zip Ty themselves discovered only a week ago that they cant apply the maps to TXCs, and have reported one TE449 that wouldnt take the maps.
  • All indications are that this is evolving information and that at some point we will have some validation that the Akra maps are the #3 Maps or not, and it will become clear who has the ability to apply the maps and which models they are effective on.
 
Although I was not referring to anyone in particular, but It is Zip-Ty who calls the map 3 BMW, so now are there 4 maps?
 
There seems to be some implication that Zip Ty needs to help dealers around the world find the right maps....I disagree.
I dont think it matters if they call them the 'smurf pony maps' (although there is one recent post where Tinken actually gave a more technically descriptive name).....

If they were any good at marketing they would call them the Afterburner Turbo Lightening maps and sell them for $159 IMHO. Similar value to the JD Tuner and way cheaper than the Power Commander.
 
leppis said:
Finnish importer and local shop close to me were both able to help me in January. I asked about maps and I was told there is three diffent maps for the bike and I decided to go with map 3. If you ask from Husky dealer about maps, maybe you shouldn't mix BMW into this, make inquiry with the bike model.
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I descibred my problem with stalling engine, "flame outs" for Husqvarna Sweden. Reply was that 2011 and 2012 bikes have available upgrades, but none for 2013. I mentioned this excellent forum and I´ve read there´s a BMW map #3 which ZipTy installs. -Oh yes, ZipTy is the Great One over there, but we don´t have any other maps for 449/511 2013 for the Europa market.
Please give me the name of the company who loaded the map 3, however Soumi is much closer than US and shipping should be fairly fast.
 
oregonsage said:
There seems to be some implication that Zip Ty needs to help dealers around the world find the right maps....I disagree.
I dont think it matters if they call them the 'smurf pony maps' (although there is one recent post where Tinken actually gave a more technically descriptive name).....

If they were any good at marketing they would call them the Afterburner Turbo Lightening maps and sell them for $159 IMHO. Similar value to the JD Tuner and way cheaper than the Power Commander.
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I Don't think People are implying Zip Ty needs, or should be helping Dealers, should be the other way around, but the fact remains, there is a map out there that only a few have access too, the question some of us are asking is where did it come from, how did just a few dealers get it, and why has BMW and Husqvarna UK (and quite a few other Countries) never heard of it?
For all we know, it may have nothing to do with BMW, just a name it got somehow, Map 3 could be the "open pipe/Akra/#3" It just would be nice to actually find out.

Can this map we are talking about be emailed to a UK dealer so he can load it onto my bike?
 
Dealers in Aus have had access to the #3 map for the past month or so, several guys I know who've had the update are well pleased with the results.

My dealer referred to it as the "BMW something or other" map after I asked only if there were any updates out there.

EDIT: It's not a conspiracy to hide the maps from you, BMW and Husq are two very seperate companies, asking BMW for a map is like asking Audi for Bentley parts. Unless you've emailed or spoken to a technical manager at HVUK or even the guy tasked with servicing the bikes, the typical pleb on the phone/front desk doesn't know or does care about such things as engine maps.
 
I haves spoke to both Technical UK, both no idea. Actually BMW did not want to know, they said everything was handed over to Husqvarna
 
I think models 2011-13 are same with minor changes with same ecu. I suppose 2012 maps are good for 2013. Tinken, any comments?
 
There is actually 2014 maps available, but I haven't had time to look at them. So far, VIN numbers under 100 in the last three digits have been mappable, where as over 100 have been ecu locked. Ecu's that are locked cannot be modified and there for the solution would be the powercommander5.

The Full Akro map is the BMW map #3. BMW produced 3 maps; Stock, A mid map and lastly the Full Akro map. Technically they produced 4 because there is an upgrade from 2011 ecu's to 2012 and there is a difference between the full akro for 2011 and the full akro for 2012 which is more powerful and is what I have been loading onto the 2011 ecu's that are not locked.

There are also 3 maps available for the 2013 310r's, I have remapped two of these today. Map #1 on these models is down right horrifying. Not sure if power up plugs are available for these at this point in time.

I apologize for the confusion, it was just easier to call them map set 1, 2 and 3 in an attempt to avoid such confusion.
 
May still map, won't know till it's hooked up to the HST. Besides, you should be running PCV anyway.
 
Not fussed with more power, I fall off enough as it is :P Smoother running is where it's at (and I have no money for a PCV). Are you finding more '11 or '12 model ECU's locked?
 
And those VINs are TE SM?
My 11 TXC was ...33 and would not map.
Ive got a TXC ....82 if you want to try another one.
 
..887 I'm so screwed for a map#3. Remains the PCV alternative. Just bought new helmet and boots, must talk very sweet with my wife...
 

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Mine was 276 and took the Akra map no problem. I know of an SM that would not accept a map change though.
 
I had a conversation directly with Husqvarna about mapping and using the Akro on the road. This is basically what I was told.
The countries that were supplied bikes with the Akropovik exhaust have a different ecu/map to the countries that didn't. By installing the Akropovik exhaust and enabling Map II it changes the mapping to suit the supplied Akropovik exhaust and disables the O2 sensor and the bike no longer meets emissions regulations, thus rendering the bike for "off road use only".
I don't mean to rattle the beehive, but there seems to be a bit of miss information about the matter, hence why I contacted the manufacturer, I would suggest others do the same before deciding what action you take.
Looking at this objectively, how would BMW have a map for the G450X which has different gearing, headwork and cam, suit the Husky better?
 
Karnage said:
Looking at this objectively, how would BMW have a map for the G450X which has different gearing, headwork and cam, suit the Husky better?
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Head is the same except 511 has relief machining. Cams are the same on the TE/SM's. Gearing is different, but that wouldn't make the engine run differently.
 
I am not sure how that map is better, I just know after having the FMF instead of the stock pipe with catylitic converter
The bike ran better but was still very lean. After the remapping bike ran like I think it should, not lean, more power
Everywhere, no low speed stalling, much snappier throttle response, pulled better at high RPM in top gear.
 
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