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Potential Australian recall

WayneC said:
Everyone who has lodged a DOTARS report, I am trying to look into something re the BMS-E ECU, on the under side of the ECU under the seat there is a label with Magneti Marelli and BMW part numbers, I want to see what numbers are on each machine, can you all get me pic's or numbers ?
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Hi Wayne as requested:

ECU numbers.jpg
 
Thanks Geezer, it is the same revision as Stuart and Sussurf, so far it is only the Nuda ECU I have on the test bench which is the earlier version
 
Thanks Snow Dog, pleased to see some dirt on that ECU, been out using it for the purpose it was intended I see :)

Navigare, from research on EU helmet recalls I notice reports are lodged within individual countries and recalls are notified by individual countries to the central database. The bottom line is unless owners lodge reports with their local safety authority no Govt or Authority can be expected to know about a problem or act
 
Only picks my Terra up at the weekend and enjoyed a great 1000km ride back to Sydney but had a few sudden stalls and stutters at junctions... Report raised.

INC-2016-08-00144
 
Thanks Delewis and TerrableRider, it is pretty clear, all the Terra's are the first revision of hardware, the only G650GS/Sertao so far is the second revision and it seems BMW may not have resolved the stall when hot and clutch in on all of those bikes with the recall and firmware update, some still have the symptom
 
WayneC said:
Thanks Delewis and TerrableRider, it is pretty clear, all the Terra's are the first revision of hardware, the only G650GS/Sertao so far is the second revision and it seems BMW may not have resolved the stall when hot and clutch in on all of those bikes with the recall and firmware update, some still have the symptom
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Sounds like BMW is having a go at least, yawn
ECU.JPG
 
Mine is a US (type) bike, in Philippines with

MBC1 . A10 052
8533726 - 01
BC . 0100666 . D

Same as them all :-(
 
Thanks Mark, it seems clear the Terra/Strada's are all first hardware revision (BC . 0100666 . D) so we can probably rule out problems due having original version
 
Terrable Rider said:
Hi All
I've read in other places that the Canadian and American authorities have instructed KTM/Husky to order a recall, which apparently they have but no other action yet.
Are we getting any closer here?
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Yes we are, there are a couple of people working in the background to ensure that this case goes through DOTARS and ACCC. One person in particular who is very well qualified in this field has been working directly with the case manager.

Also apologies for not posting an update over the weekend, I spoke with DOTARS on Friday and this is still an active case - what does that mean to us - DOTARS, BMW ACCC PFG and Husqvarna Australia (kTM importer) are in discussions to resolve the stalling issue. The other part that they are working on is the supply of parts and servicing for a period of time after sale of the bike.

It is an unusual case for the Government because normally a manufacturer will come to them and ask for a recall to occur. Of note they are also working up for a court battle with VW at the moment which has a greater media coverage than some other cases.

In the recent discussions with DOTARS they are aware that there is a dealership in NSW/ACT that are updating the firmware at a cost to the owner. They are also know that BMW are working on further updates for this ecu and BMW are able to access our bikes through the BMW Australian dealer network but that is not occurring. They are also working with the information from the Canada and America investigations.

The current ecu update has resolved 90% of problems and these bikes run even better when the update is done in conjunction with rebuilding the fuel adaption tables. BMW are working on a further update to this software and the push is for this to be available when it is released, however in the meantime the bikes should get the current ecu upgrade as an interim fix and there should be on going parts and servicing available to owners.

For those that have lodged a report with DOTARS and if you have time feel free to call them and enquire on how your report is going - just remember to have your INC number ready when you call :-)

Stay safe :-)
 
Geeza said:
Yes we are, there are a couple of people working in the background to ensure that this case goes through DOTARS and ACCC. One person in particular who is very well qualified in this field has been working directly with the case manager.

Also apologies for not posting an update over the weekend, I spoke with DOTARS on Friday and this is still an active case - what does that mean to us - DOTARS, BMW ACCC PFG and Husqvarna Australia (kTM importer) are in discussions to resolve the stalling issue. The other part that they are working on is the supply of parts and servicing for a period of time after sale of the bike.

It is an unusual case for the Government because normally a manufacturer will come to them and ask for a recall to occur. Of note they are also working up for a court battle with VW at the moment which has a greater media coverage than some other cases.

In the recent discussions with DOTARS they are aware that there is a dealership in NSW/ACT that are updating the firmware at a cost to the owner. They are also know that BMW are working on further updates for this ecu and BMW are able to access our bikes through the BMW Australian dealer network but that is not occurring. They are also working with the information from the Canada and America investigations.

The current ecu update has resolved 90% of problems and these bikes run even better when the update is done in conjunction with rebuilding the fuel adaption tables. BMW are working on a further update to this software and the push is for this to be available when it is released, however in the meantime the bikes should get the current ecu upgrade as an interim fix and there should be on going parts and servicing available to owners.

For those that have lodged a report with DOTARS and if you have time feel free to call them and enquire on how your report is going - just remember to have your INC number ready when you call :-)

Stay safe :-)
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Thanks Geeeza
 
The US Department of Transport - National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) have issued a further recall for the BMW GS650 bikes.

An extract from the Safety Recall Report:

Chronology : After our recall on August 20, 2015, BMW became aware of this issue again because of a non-US case reported on September 7, 2015. The motorcycle was a MY 2015 G 650 GS with a mileage of 4215km. BMW requested the vehicle for review and analysis. There was one additional case reported in September 2015. The problem could not be duplicated on either of the two cases. By February 2016, BMW received a few cases where the failure could not be duplicated. In March 2016, BMW received 10 additional cases so BMW obtained vehicles from the dealers for further testing and analysis. In May 2016, testing was initiated on five vehicles with this complaint over a time period of 14 weeks (nearly 4000km). The problem could not be duplicated so BMW decided to send experts to Brazil to check the vehicles. In August 2016, a group of experts went to Brazil. During this 3-week time period, six vehicles were tested and analyzed. The investigation found that when a shutdown of the engine control unit occurred, the correct values of the stepper position were lost. Without correct values of the stepper position, a stable idling cannot be ensured. As a result, a revised engine control unit software with improved default values of idle stepper position was developed. Between September 2015 and September 2016, BMW received 69 non-US cases. BMW will continue to analyze information. On September 15, 2016, BMW decided to conduct a voluntary recall. BMW received one report of a minor accident without injury in Germany related to original software. BMW did not receive any reports of an accident with the updated software.

What does this mean for the TR owners?
  • BMW have continued to investigate the issue and further developed the firmware for the BMS-E ecu fitted to the BMW bikes.
  • This firmware should shortly be in the BMW Diagnostic System if not already.
  • Further acknowledgement by BMW that there are issues with this ecu and its firmware and that development can occur - so why not apply this to the TR.
Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development (DOTARS) will need a little bit of time to digest this new information from NHTSA, but the strong link between the BMW and Huskies is well known by DOTARS and will act as further evidence to support action for the Australian TR's.
 
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