TE 250/310 xlite starter issues...

[gergte310]

I have the same e start issue issue with my 2011 te310 contacted husky and they came to the party with a new set of gear and worm drive, the local dealer installed them and i am yet to test the bike as the battery is dead and not taking any charge. Tried the car and the bike fired up but my feeling is that it took too much power to turn it over so i have my doubts that the new new gears have fixed the problem.
I will try a new bike battery and then test the load on the starter motor.
It seems the starter became weak caused by the faulty gears new starter motor and all good so far. Fingers crossed. All parts were supplied by husky on a good will warranty the only cost was labour at the local dealer.

 

[BILLF]

I know we had alot of the same thing but eventually did this update after the third starter motor.

 

[LFTKIKR]

I posted a few pages back with the same problems as everyone else. Last time I checked my valve clearances the exhaust side was tight including the valve with the decompressor. I loosened it up with some Suzuki shims(they come in more finite increments than Husky shims) and low and behold the bike has a bit more trouble starting when cold now whereas before is was ok.

When the bike is running at lower RPMS and cold I can hear a clicking noise in the valvetrain. I always thought it was cam chain slack, but now I think its the decompressor flopping back and forth. This is confirmed by the fact that if I give it just a bit more gas to increase idle speed it goes away and the motor runs more evenly because the valve is operating correctly. The noise was a sound of something like a bike with a Hot rod or lumpy cam beacause the exhaust valve was not operating as it should (kind of like excessive valve overlap).

In short, what I am saying is that after reading this whole thread again it does not seem like replacing starters, sprags and worm gears fixes anything for sure. My bike has no warranty and I am not going to throw parts at it. I think there are some exceptions in this thread regarding some of the problems, but the decompressor seems to be the problem no one has fully addressed. I'm gonna try and bend the spring like Phoenix suggested in a prior post and also tighten up the exhaust valves. Although I an hesitant to go tight on exhaust valves, it's a good way to burn a valve on anything with solid lifter cams, ask me how I know.

I think we are on to something here.

 

[my_urban_chaos]

Bought my TE310 in December 2012 and fell in love with it. Yesterday the battery would not start the bike. I had to use the kickstarter. I thought the battery went bad so I bought a new one today. Bike started right up. But then wouldn't start again. I had to use the kickstarter. Starting and stopping on today's trail ride was hit or miss with the starter. Sometimes it worked, other times I was religated to the kickstarter. Seems the gremlins are attacking my bike. This is of great concern as my wife bought a TE250 at the same time I got my bike. She's had no starting issues yet. Gonna call a dealer to make an appointment soon. Any suggestions as to a dealer? I live in SoCal so I would prefer someone who knows these issues. Thanks

 

[DougW]

There are only a few dealers around, so I'm thinking they pretty much know what's going on by now and it won't be there first bike with this issue. Just tell them what's going on.

Good luck.

 

[Tinken]

Where in So Cal?

 

[R_Little]

I posted a few pages back with the same problems as everyone else. Last time I checked my valve clearances the exhaust side was tight including the valve with the decompressor. I loosened it up with some Suzuki shims(they come in more finite increments than Husky shims) and low and behold the bike has a bit more trouble starting when cold now whereas before is was ok.

When the bike is running at lower RPMS and cold I can hear a clicking noise in the valvetrain. I always thought it was cam chain slack, but now I think its the decompressor flopping back and forth. This is confirmed by the fact that if I give it just a bit more gas to increase idle speed it goes away and the motor runs more evenly because the valve is operating correctly. The noise was a sound of something like a bike with a Hot rod or lumpy cam beacause the exhaust valve was not operating as it should (kind of like excessive valve overlap).

In short, what I am saying is that after reading this whole thread again it does not seem like replacing starters, sprags and worm gears fixes anything for sure. My bike has no warranty and I am not going to throw parts at it. I think there are some exceptions in this thread regarding some of the problems, but the decompressor seems to be the problem no one has fully addressed. I'm gonna try and bend the spring like Phoenix suggested in a prior post and also tighten up the exhaust valves. Although I an hesitant to go tight on exhaust valves, it's a good way to burn a valve on anything with solid lifter cams, ask me how I know.

I think we are on to something here.

I think valve adjustment has a lot to do with it.....and the valve with the decompressor is touchy to adjust.
That valve measures loose then spin engine over then it measures tighter...strange, like the docomperssor is holding that valve part open while I check it.

Anyway, mine was tight and I adjusted it....then I checked it again and it was loose..so I put the origina shim back in and the bike starts much better.

Actually I have zero-EStart issues now on my 2010 TE250.

 

[my_urban_chaos]

Edwards. B&B is the closest near Hesparia

 

[shark36]

The te310 2011 doesnt run if the battery is completly empty. Is there any cheap way to resolve this (since someone told me, that the 2013 models have this solved)?

 

[DougW]

I thought for 2011 the changed the fi system to run / start if the battery was dead, but installed.

 

[Phoenix]

The te310 2011 doesnt run if the battery is completly empty. Is there any cheap way to resolve this (since someone told me, that the 2013 models have this solved)?

Different EFI in 2013.

 

[Grogg88]

Hey Guys! Here´s my "starter issue" apparently i pushed the starter button while driving last week, everything held up exept this ring gear and that realy small woodruff key that locks a starter gear to the starter axle ( in the 90 degree connection) the key where split in half.

And i also have to change the freewheel

 

[Twinair]

Is there still a problem with the starter with the 310 '12 model??

Does anyone know the weight difference in weight between a te 450 ´08 and a te 310 ´12?

 

[R_Little]

Is there still a problem with the starter with the 310 '12 model??

Does anyone know the weight difference in weight between a te 450 ´08 and a te 310 ´12?

The 2012 has the same basic system as the 2010 x-lites. It is not a very robust system and some work better than others.

The 08 450 weighs about 25# more than an x-light....it feels like more.

 

[LFTKIKR]

Put a deeper bend in the decompressor spring, no floppy tick tick noises any longer,...also changed the decompressor exhaust valve shim one smaller.

No change in starting. Still sucks when warm, cant get over TDC on a regular basis. Kick starts easy.
Now what?

It is the original Yuasa battery. I keep it on a trickle charger.

Start throwing money at it I guess. Just dumped money on the Race computer and injector just to get it to run right.

This is BS. My orange buddies laugh.

 

[310huskyTE]

My 2012 310 electric start has just started playing up, on my 2011 310 which was doing the same thing it was a worn worm gear causing the problem, once that was upgraded no more problems.
So it looks like i need the upgraded worm gear for my 2012.
I would have thought with all the issues of starting with the x-light motors it would have been fixed for 2012, hopefully the 2013's don't have this problem

First of all sorry for quoting myself.
My bike has just been fixed, on the 2011 310 i only had the issue when the bike was hot, but the 2012 310 wouldnt start at all on the button, the dealer tried everything on my bike, both times, by the way they are the BEST Husky dealer in Australia, well i think so anyway.
What was causing my problem was a worn worm gear and a badly worn ring gear, they showed me the parts when i picked up the bike and the ring gear was much worse that the worm gear.
So if you are having starting issues make sure the ring gear is replaced as well as the worm gear

 

[310huskyTE]

So my '10 te250 had the hot starter issue, that was under warentee and fixed. Now my '11 te310 has just developed it as well. My 310 is long out of warentee. So now the question is how do I get husky to fix a know issue out of warentee. In the end I'm sure ill end up paying but the big question what part is really broken?

Doug

Doug, all i can say is make sure you have a good relationship with your dealer, my bike just got fixed under warranty even though it was out of warranty.

 

[Grogg88]

Yes, i changed the worm gear, free wheel and the ring gear, in sweden atleast, they stop selling ring gear separatly, only comes in kit with the worm gear, costed me approx 120 euros

 

[gergte310]

My bike still sits at the dealer new ring and worm gear fitted i had to pay labour but husky supplied parts as a good will warranty arrangement. The problem still exists and the starter still struggles to turn it over it is more difficuly to turn over with the kick start than new bike in the show room. The mechanic beleives it is the auto de compressor which is part of the exhaust cam so potentially a new cam shaft may be required. Husky down under beleive it is the starter motor? I have had three batteries stuff up and one was a light weight lipo. Nice bike to ride but this starting issue is wearing me down 3 months without the bike.
Help? Reluctant to go team orange.

 

[raisrx251]

My bike still sits at the dealer new ring and worm gear fitted i had to pay labour but husky supplied parts as a good will warranty arrangement. The problem still exists and the starter still struggles to turn it over it is more difficuly to turn over with the kick start than new bike in the show room. The mechanic beleives it is the auto de compressor which is part of the exhaust cam so potentially a new cam shaft may be required. Husky down under beleive it is the starter motor? I have had three batteries stuff up and one was a light weight lipo. Nice bike to ride but this starting issue is wearing me down 3 months without the bike.
Help? Reluctant to go team orange.

A friend had a 2012 TXC 310 and had this same issue when the bike was new. His was solved by adjusting the exhaust valve more on the tight side. Evidently when the valves were set in the head from the factory, they were not bored enough causing the decompression not to push the exhaust valve enough. Just a little bit on the tight side fixed his. The other issue which you have solved is the worm gear. Good Luck. Also it is a good idea to kick the bike when cold for the first ride.