JD Tuner settings

Discussion in '610/630' started by Travis Shrey, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. Guoseph Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Alameda, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FE501S
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda VFR800, KTM 525 EXC
    So I'm confused about what each zone represents. Is it throttle position or RPM? There is not X or Y axis labels on the demo, and the only explanation I saw was this:

    For illustration purposes the graph shows the natural progression through the zones for one gear, as you might see while measuring power in a dynamometer run

    Also, I understand that yellow/blue adjusts the switch point between Green and Yellow, but I'm not sure I understand "why" you would want it up or down (and related to the earlier question: up or down what exactly?) Is it to suit specific riding needs or do certain set ups require the transition to be different?

    Thanks for your help, I was never a carb tuner either, so the explanations that translate the EFI tuner to "needle vs mains" just confuses me more.
  2. jtemple Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Papillion, NE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    2013 Kawasaki ZX-14R
    You've got 6 settings. 4 of them are RPM based and control fuel delivery based in your current RPM:

    Green/Blue: Idle
    Green: Low
    Yellow: Middle
    Red: High

    Then you have two settings that basically drive how quickly you move between RPM ranges given above:

    Yellow/Blue: how quickly you transition between green & yellow - lower value means your RPM value that switches you from green to yellow fuel values is lower

    Red/Blue: I'm not entirely sure how to explain this one. It is referred to as the accelerator setting. I believe it controls how much fuel gets dumped in quick wide-open-throttle situations.

    That is my understanding of how it works. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  3. kirbybikes Husqvarna
    AA Class

  4. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    I wonder how many run just the FMF Q4 with PU and no fuel tuner. SilverBullet does for one. I just installed the FMF stuff and made a run to breakfast this morning; the bike ran just fine with no obvious fueling issues. I'm sure that the tuner, whether JD, FMF or PC, would boost the power but if one is happy without the fuel tuner, is there a reason to add one? It feels like the bike will run fine as is, and my main reason to change the exhaust system was to loose some weight. I can tell it's gone, too.
  5. jtemple Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Papillion, NE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    2013 Kawasaki ZX-14R
    I gotta be honest with you, I could probably live without mine. As you can see by my settings, I'm pretty close to stock as it is.
  6. johngil Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Reseda, CA
    I've got huge lean spots I use the JD to clear.
    I love my bike, but wouldn't w/o the tuner. Admittedly, I'm picky.
  7. Travis Shrey Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Lon Gisland
    Running the stock cans converted to flow-through (except retaining the stock sparky) the JD provides a very large boost in the midrange. I would think that the FMF would flow even better and be even more suited to the extra fuel from the tuner.
  8. DYNOBOB Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cincinnati (Lebanon), OH
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    SuperTenere-GL1800-CBR900RR-KLX250S
    Before and after tuner. Before tuner I couldn't use sixth gear below 55mph (herky, jerky), now it pulls from under 50 smoothly. As JG said, I love my bike but wouldn't without the tuner.

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  9. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    I read that Jtemple has the EHS prefilter, meaning more fuel needed for the additional air. John, how is your bike set up? EHS or other for more air in? I can definitely see that the tuner is needed when the engine can breathe better. It's gotta be choked down a lot with that small inlet snorkel. I was thinking of leaving things alone until I added the EHS, if I do.

    I have a new FMF can for my WRR, along with all the stuff to make it work, but am saving the dollars for a PCV and Autotune. On that bike, I need all the extra power I can get since it's only a 250. Of course the Husky would be more fun with more HP, but I will trade HP for better fuel consumption as I use it for long distance where gas availability is an issue. I don't want to get down into the 30's mpg range.
  10. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    That's pretty impressive! I have the same issue with sixth gear, below 50 as I am now geared. Looks like the curve with the PCV smooths out a lot too, for both torque and HP. I may have to reconsider....
  11. johngil Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Reseda, CA
    My bike has a Q4 exhaust, closed loop, and air box bullshit removed. 14/44 or 15/46 gearing.
  12. DYNOBOB Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cincinnati (Lebanon), OH
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    SuperTenere-GL1800-CBR900RR-KLX250S
    The last two times I checked mileage I got 50 and 52mpg. Worst I've ever seen was 47. I'm not an aggressive, high rpm rider though.
  13. hammer Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Would like to hear what your setting are. That's some good fuel mileage.
  14. jtemple Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Papillion, NE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    2013 Kawasaki ZX-14R
    I do not have the prefilter in any more. I wasn't happy with the amount of water it was letting in.
  15. DYNOBOB Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cincinnati (Lebanon), OH
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    SuperTenere-GL1800-CBR900RR-KLX250S
    I'm running a PC-V.



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  16. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    There are more than just a few Dyno Jet tuning centers here in Houston, so the PC-V makes sense. I'll call around and find one that is familiar with FI dirt bikes. Most seem to be oriented toward cruisers and Harleys. Shouldn't make a lot of difference though if the techs are up to speed. It would be fun to run the bike to the makers in Las Vegas, but it's just too far to make sense. But then, I could get in a little winter riding in Nevada if I did that. Hmmm.
  17. 1lunger Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bloomfield CT
    I'm also not very happy with how quick the prefilters wear out. I got a replacement and will try some water proofing products on the old one. The guys at EHS said its not a good idea, but that's so you'll buy a new one. REI or EMS carry some really good stuff that will allow for breathing / wicking and still block water. I'll post up the results.
  18. jtemple Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Papillion, NE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE630
    Other Motorcycles:
    2013 Kawasaki ZX-14R
    I wonder if that tech wash stuff you use on jackets and stuff would work.
  19. 1lunger Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bloomfield CT
    That's what I'm going to try.
  20. STANIMAL Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Chicagoland
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMS630
    Other Motorcycles:
    WXE260
    Has anyone installed a TE ECU into a SMS ? I would assume the offroad ECU is more aggressive .