2013 TE449 Power up?

[oregonsage]

And, the TC switch should work just fine. Anything that will jump/unjump is what it takes.

 

[Mac]

Hanging to ride this weekend. I removed the spark arrestor from the factory supplied Akro muffler and the guys at R&D Husky here in Sydney flashed the #3 map set into my ECU. Looking forward to seeing the difference!

 

[Caiman]

Huge difference with the full akra mapping (Map#3).

 

[Mac]

Excellent. Can't wait.

 

[Mac]

AWESOME!!! What a difference. Love this bike even more now.

 

[Tinken]

I was able to pull off 61.0bhp with only map#3 (ZipTy race mods of course) and standard fuel. I am thinking it will be closer to 64 with the pcv depending on fuel package.

 

[Mac]

Wow that's incredible. I really can't believe how much nicer this map makes the bike to ride. Feels like there is so much more torque delivery through the low to upper mid range (where I ride most) and the issues I was having with flameouts are all but gone. Not sure how much difference removing the spark arrestor from the factory supplied akro contributed to this as I did this at the same time, but to anyone contemplating it, don't. Just do it!

 

[Tinken]

That Akro pipe is very heavy and still choked up. You will continue to see a difference with a silencer like Caiman's or an FMF.

 

[Caiman]

For the dollars either the FMF or Arrow full systems are a worthy upgrade, Akra TI Evo system is stupid expensive now.

 

[Mac]

Ok cool. Thanks guys.

Retaining the factory header for now, is the FMF PC4 the best replacement option? Can see Q4 etc options for TC on FMF site and others talking about these on here but I'm on a budget, 3 kids blah blah blah... (noise and spark arrestor not really a problem where I ride)

 

[Tinken]

I would add a q insert into the PC4, it adds bottom end to the 449. Definitely a cheap option, not sure how much the Arrow is.

 

[Mac]

Thanks Tinken. Appreciate it.

 

[Tinken]

Just called Stefan at R&D here in Sydney and I will need to speak to his mechanic next week about it. He seemed to believe that loading the #3 maps onto a 2011 TE449 ECU was a big problem / impossible as opposed to a 2012/13 model ECU?? Tinken - Can you shed any light on this or had any similar experience so far? If it's a drama here in Australia and you can do it no problem I'll have to ship my ECU Stateside to you.

---> Loading Map #3 onto a 2011 TE449 is not impossible, however unlikely.
---> Loading Map#3 onto a 2011 TE511 is very likely as well as a 2012-2014 TE449 and TE511.

It is my belief that the ecu's from 2011 on the TE449's were most likely left over and converted BMW G450X ecu's and therefor locked. I have even come across some of these 2011 TE449 ecu's which state they have the upgraded map # loaded into them, though they clearly do not.

I feel strongly that I have pushed the Kymco 449 engine to it's limitations with the stock ecu & Map#3 with the modified air box, tuned exhaust and porting resulting in a dyno tested 61.0 BHP @ 9700 rpms.

I honestly believe that the best setup is with the use of a powercommander and autotune. I believe this will push the limits of the Kymco closer to +65bhp. This may be purely academic due to the limitations of the torque limiter at this point. Because of this, I have sat down and redesigned a new torque limiter for the Kymco 449. My new TL will place 100% of the output torque to the primary transmission.

 

[Mac]

That's interesting Tinken. When I called the mechanic at R&D to see how he was going he said that the map loaded no dramas. He mentioned that my ECU had what he called a #1 map set in it which was really for use with the factory muffler (the big one with the cat converter) and the lambda sensor. The #2 map set was what is loaded in the 2012/13 models already (from factory or Austrlian Distributor?) and the #3 map set was the Husky supplied map set for use with the full open Akro exhaust system. Gave me the option of doing either the #2 or #3 map set. Maybe I was lucky on this one but will find out soon as I'm sending my mates 11 449 to get done as well. Might leave cutting the spark arrestor out of his muffler before this to get a better judge on the the map alone.

Would be cool if you were able to check the installed map set externally without the hardware just to make sure that everything is as it seems. Does the whole "3 lots of maps" thing add up for you?

Really is decent power you are getting out of these engines. New TL sounds interesting!

 

[Tinken]

When I called the mechanic at R&D to see how he was going he said that the map loaded no dramas. He mentioned that my ECU had what he called a #1 map set in it which was really for use with the factory muffler (the big one with the cat converter) and the lambda sensor. The #2 map set was what is loaded in the 2012/13 models already (from factory or Austrlian Distributor?) and the #3 map set was the Husky supplied map set for use with the full open Akro exhaust system. Gave me the option of doing either the #2 or #3 map set. Maybe I was lucky on this one but will find out soon as I'm sending my mates 11 449 to get done as well.

Does the whole "3 lots of maps" thing add up for you?

I've actually explained this in many previous posts. The ecu's, at least the US & Canada ones that we have tested are mostly locked. I have loaded a couple, but it has been a rare occurrence.

 

[Caiman]

Pic of the Touratech map switch, their site says order in, but that took a while 3 days to get one.

Above the little fuel tank, next to the throttle body;

Rarely gets used but it's there because I like shiny things....

 

[danny318]

I was able to pull off 61.0bhp with only map#3 (ZipTy race mods of course) and standard fuel. I am thinking it will be closer to 64 with the pcv depending on fuel package.

is that at the wheel or at the engine?

 

[Mac]

Ok thanks Tinken

 

[Elsmicko]

Hi Mac, I'm in Tassie, just wondering, if you don't mind, how much did the re flash to map 3 cost you? My issue is hard to start after a stall/relatively easy to stall, and throttle run on. Some of the other blokes on here suggest map 3 cold help solve this stuff. Cheers, Mick.

 

[Tinken]

is that at the wheel or at the engine?

At the tire.